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Russian Lawmaker Seeks to Cap Apple's App Store Commission at 20%
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Apple/Google should be forced to stop gatekeeping payments on the App/Play Store. Period.
I know which map I'm adding to my next app! How did I not know this?!? 10 years of programming and I still feel stupid sometimes. 😆
I'm more looking forward to sideloading apps anyway, but hey come on, 30% to cover these services is hilarious.
At least 20% of is pure revenue, or why do you think they avoid disclosing it.
Good to see. Apple’s days of 30% extortion will end at some point and more than one App Store. What will they do for service revenue. It’s all up to Apple news. No pressure. Being able to side load is more important for consumers.
There's always more than one way for Apple to get their fees
They won't because at least EU will follow, and US probably too.
Sure they still can decide the stop their business in RU,EU, etc., Apple board wallets are full enough, but their greed weights more.
Not even Russian App Store. Apple Store are officially inexistent.
All Apple devices solds are through retailer, no BTO.
The Russian solution is a joke. Honestly. Cap at 20% bu than require 6.5% from the 20% to go to some dodgy state department ... I smell someone filing their pockets. So Apple would end up with 13.5%?
This is getting out of hand. Apple has all the tools to resolve this in a reasonable way without leaving others to decide for them with these crazy schemes made by .... Yes, they can leave Russia, what’s next leave the EU?
This is getting out of hand. Apple has all the tools to resolve this in a reasonable way without leaving others to decide for them with these crazy schemes made by .... Yes, they can leave Russia, what’s next leave the EU?
Well, Yelp pays 30% of the app price, and 30% of in-app purchases. I think the app is free, and they have no in-app purchases
Apple's App Store has identical rules for everyone, and as a result some companies pay for others.
Nintendo, Playstation, Xbox.....why aren't they getting the same demand?
Well, as a Russian myself, I get a say in this. It's a standard braindead initiative by a braindead official. Thankfully, they usually get revised once more intelligent officials start realizing how retarded they are. Previous attempts have included:
- Internet access only after submitting passport information for kids under 14
- $1000 fines for sex with prostitutes
- removing all images of alcohol from the movies
- banning selling cigarettes to people under 40
- storing all (!) user data on the servers of mobile operators (which was mostly reversed once the costs were estimated to be around a trillion dollars)
- banning Telegram via carpet bombing-style blocking of tons of Google and Amazon servers that Telegram used, resulting in thousands of small businesses unable to operate. Rather ironically, Telegram was still fully functional and more popular than ever, and used by the majority of the government officials.
- Internet access only after submitting passport information for kids under 14
- $1000 fines for sex with prostitutes
- removing all images of alcohol from the movies
- banning selling cigarettes to people under 40
- storing all (!) user data on the servers of mobile operators (which was mostly reversed once the costs were estimated to be around a trillion dollars)
- banning Telegram via carpet bombing-style blocking of tons of Google and Amazon servers that Telegram used, resulting in thousands of small businesses unable to operate. Rather ironically, Telegram was still fully functional and more popular than ever, and used by the majority of the government officials.
They can't unless they apply it to the whole industry, many companies are doing the same if not more premium but it's only fun to attack Apple.
Are you kidding? I am 100% positive that Apple will just pull out of Russia rather than change their polices, especially in regards to third party app stores.
What? So banks and payment merchants like visa / mastercard / etc profit instead? Okay.
If you want iOS to be Android, why don’t you just get and Android phone? Most people don’t want the ability to side load apps on their iPhone. They appreciate the security and convenience of a single App Store. Additionally most developers are also fine with the App Store being the only way to load apps as it levels the playing field. You sure have an agenda- just not quite sure what it is yet.
I sincerely don't understand what you mean when you say that a company is greed.
I hope you do realise companies exists to make business and earn money, not to be no profit organisations.
So, what is your problem if a company does its best to be successful.
Because you can buy games everywhere (retail, craigslist etc.), not only at the e.g. Xbox-Store.
You can already pay at these shops via credit card... so there's no real benefit for them.
I'm sorry but I have to say this. Those making comments like "extortion" and "unfairness" against Apple's 30% commission and believe Epic is playing the hero have either no understanding of business and economics, are simply delusional.
Epic has one objective. Make more money. This isn't about the consumer. It's about them making more money.
Apple have been clear and transparent since day one. The fact they have got so successful without making any changes to their tier is quite remarkable.
It's also amusing to note Epic wouldn't be the billion dollar company they are without Apple's platform so this is a total stab in the back to gain more $$$.
I'm not always pro-Apple (read my previous posts), but I'll put a bet down today; Epic won't win and nor will all the other creeps jumping on the band-wagon to make more money.
Epic has one objective. Make more money. This isn't about the consumer. It's about them making more money.
Apple have been clear and transparent since day one. The fact they have got so successful without making any changes to their tier is quite remarkable.
It's also amusing to note Epic wouldn't be the billion dollar company they are without Apple's platform so this is a total stab in the back to gain more $$$.
I'm not always pro-Apple (read my previous posts), but I'll put a bet down today; Epic won't win and nor will all the other creeps jumping on the band-wagon to make more money.
By the logic that app store monopolies need to be controlled, you then also must think that engine monopolies must also need to be controlled? I mean it's totally unfair that I can't make Ford install a Ferarri engine in my new car. That engine will cost me more in fuel, oil and maintenance over the life of the car than the car itself, it's a big deal cost-wise.
Ferrari makes a smaller, lighter, simpler engine that costs 30% less over its life to operate I should be able to force Ford to let me use it.
On S3 10TB of transfer costs $8 a month. And if you didn't know, Apple charges every dev $99 a year for the privilege of being on the App Store, so there you go, they can survive 10TB of transfer for every single developer account. I can tell you this, 99% of devs paying the $99/yr are not using anywhere close to 10TB of transfer per month with app sizes < 50MB.
Nobody is paying $2000/month for a physical server to host an indie app in 2020 (Not even back in 2010.)
I don't agree with Russia's position, but Apple is not throwing devs a bone here either. The only ones that walk away with massive profit + zero cost are your amazon/target/netflix/instagram/Facebook/epic games. And that is the problem, Apple should charge rent based on downloads, and not based on revenue. That would mean those top companies actually contribute something back to Apple for their own hosting costs, and at the same time small developers no longer subsidize these huge companies getting a free lunch.
If you own a store in a shopping center, how much do you pay the landlord? 30% of all sales? Nope - a flat fee based on the size of your space + how much foot traffic will walk by it. If it worked that way 95% of businesses just would not work because their margins are lower than 30%.
My solution - drop IAP percentage to 15% to allow more business ideas to have a chance, allow devs to link to outside purchases (IAP should compete and be better than outside purchase, not win by default because apple doesn't allow anything else), drop the $99/yr dev fee and instead add a per-app fee that starts at $3/mo, but scales up over time based on download counts (IE 10 downloads and no change, 2M downloads and you pay proportionally.)
The Android user experience is subjectively terrible. Although are a number of improvements which would make my life easier when using my iPhone and Apple Watch, I do enjoy the experience and how these devices work together to enhance my day to day life.
I’d much prefer to work towards improvements and enhancements to my current devices rather than switch to something which I believe to be years behind in usability.