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Safari 15 Users Say New Tab Design is Counterintuitive
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I can't tell you how much I hate this. It took them years to ditch the Touch Bar, I hope this turd dies a much quicker death.
Thank you. Now that I see the pictures I am having a hard time understanding how this is counterintuitive. In both cases, the active tab 'pops' relative to the background.
What's the issue Gruber is having?
Totally agree. Safari 15 is AWFUL. This one thing drives me demented daily. That and the moving of the bookmarks tab. Oh and it crashes constantly too is the icing on the cake. Looks like Chrome is going to be my new default after resisting Google for 5-7 years.
I 100% agree please bring back safari 14 tab colours this is nuts! orrr have a setting for us to change light active ...inactive dark...not that hard
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Christ. Natural is similar to how you use an iPhone or iPad but other than that there’s no inherently better about either way, just what you are familiar with.
It's quite amazing this made it into the end product.
Apple must be a crappy place to work that people felt they couldn't point out what a bad idea this is, or pointed it out and were ignored.
It is obviously terrible design.
Apple must be a crappy place to work that people felt they couldn't point out what a bad idea this is, or pointed it out and were ignored.
It is obviously terrible design.
The most cumbersome piece of software is Finder. Jesus how come after so many years they can't make something that allows most basic file/folder operations.
Rene got better though. It’s Gruber that creeps me out with the Apple defending lol… And folks called me a fanboy before, but Gruber is on another level.
It's ok.
The tab color on some websites (The Verge & Yahoo Finance) is obnoxious. On other sites like Mac Rumors I like it. Conclusion: I don't like the real dark colors in the tab bar. They make looking at the other tabs hard on the eyes.
I like the tab button design. IT's a cleaner look.
I like the compact bar. I don't think the moving search bar bugs so far. Knock on wood. I almost always CMD-L anyways. I always thought the prior address/search bar was a big waste of space and was due to be "adjusted."
Not sure I like how the forward button appears/disappears. It doesn't affect my usability because I almost always swipe left to go forward or use CMD-right arrow and I don't go forward too often anyway. But I have to get used to the concept of buttons on the browser UI coming and going depending on where you are on a website.
Sort of the same with the little down arrow icon(button.) Not only does it seem like they can design a better button than a little down arrow (because the current button doesn't indicate what it does,) but when you click it and click a tab group then that down arrow goes away replaced by the name of the tab group.
Click the Show Sidebar button. There is a lag there where the back button and left most icon take a second or two to move back out of the Sidebar you just opened.
More than 8 tabs in the compact bar and you have to CMD-click to close a tab. IT could annoy. But maybe tab groups make this less annoying than it otherwise would be. Maybe they can come up with another solution to the mouse-over the tab to get the 'x' (close) button.
The contrast tab highlight is fine overall. But it doesn't seem to exist however if you select compact/no color. And (at least in one combination of tab layout options,) the site icon/favcon doesn't show in the active tab. Which is a bit strange to me. You do see the website name. Of note is the contrast of the active tab is opposite the contrast of its website color. So on The Verge website with its dark black color, the active tab is lighter black(grey.) On the WSJ website with its white color, the active tab is a darker grey.
In the search bar under the compact bar layout, there is a 3 dot button. Click it and you get the Share/Bookmark menus. Yet the Share button (which includes bookmarks) is still on the compact bar.
Refresh button is invisible until you put your cursor in the address bar which changes location when using the compact bar tab layout. I don't know how I feel about this. I usually CMD-R to refresh and I don't think I will have a problem with the moving bar.
Overall I think some of the design changes feel like a work in progress. Interesting ideas that feel like they haven't quite got to the desired end state. AT the same time, I doubt any of this affects my day to day use much if at all.
The tab color on some websites (The Verge & Yahoo Finance) is obnoxious. On other sites like Mac Rumors I like it. Conclusion: I don't like the real dark colors in the tab bar. They make looking at the other tabs hard on the eyes.
I like the tab button design. IT's a cleaner look.
I like the compact bar. I don't think the moving search bar bugs so far. Knock on wood. I almost always CMD-L anyways. I always thought the prior address/search bar was a big waste of space and was due to be "adjusted."
Not sure I like how the forward button appears/disappears. It doesn't affect my usability because I almost always swipe left to go forward or use CMD-right arrow and I don't go forward too often anyway. But I have to get used to the concept of buttons on the browser UI coming and going depending on where you are on a website.
Sort of the same with the little down arrow icon(button.) Not only does it seem like they can design a better button than a little down arrow (because the current button doesn't indicate what it does,) but when you click it and click a tab group then that down arrow goes away replaced by the name of the tab group.
Click the Show Sidebar button. There is a lag there where the back button and left most icon take a second or two to move back out of the Sidebar you just opened.
More than 8 tabs in the compact bar and you have to CMD-click to close a tab. IT could annoy. But maybe tab groups make this less annoying than it otherwise would be. Maybe they can come up with another solution to the mouse-over the tab to get the 'x' (close) button.
The contrast tab highlight is fine overall. But it doesn't seem to exist however if you select compact/no color. And (at least in one combination of tab layout options,) the site icon/favcon doesn't show in the active tab. Which is a bit strange to me. You do see the website name. Of note is the contrast of the active tab is opposite the contrast of its website color. So on The Verge website with its dark black color, the active tab is lighter black(grey.) On the WSJ website with its white color, the active tab is a darker grey.
In the search bar under the compact bar layout, there is a 3 dot button. Click it and you get the Share/Bookmark menus. Yet the Share button (which includes bookmarks) is still on the compact bar.
Refresh button is invisible until you put your cursor in the address bar which changes location when using the compact bar tab layout. I don't know how I feel about this. I usually CMD-R to refresh and I don't think I will have a problem with the moving bar.
Overall I think some of the design changes feel like a work in progress. Interesting ideas that feel like they haven't quite got to the desired end state. AT the same time, I doubt any of this affects my day to day use much if at all.
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btw, the compact tab bar makes me think the red/yellow/green window buttons are on a future chopping block. They take up lots of space. ...while quite frankly I mostly only use ( and only see the need for) the green button in order to option-click resize the window or go full screen or tile the window. I rarely minimize and I rarely close a window. For the most part I don't see the need or point of the yellow & red buttons in my day to day use.
And so I feel like they could be reduced and/or moved. Off the top my head, maybe move them to the menu bar even?
Again off the top of my head, but isn't the concept of minimizing a window dated in the age of SSDs, auto save, virtual desktops, mission control etc? Same with the close window button? OR at least enough so they can be moved to a different location or combined under 1 button etc?
And so I feel like they could be reduced and/or moved. Off the top my head, maybe move them to the menu bar even?
Again off the top of my head, but isn't the concept of minimizing a window dated in the age of SSDs, auto save, virtual desktops, mission control etc? Same with the close window button? OR at least enough so they can be moved to a different location or combined under 1 button etc?
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Safari 15 is absolutely crap. The rainbow people are making too much money and using it for overthinking. Completely mental.
I don't personally mind the new design. I like when Apple is going for a new look and I haven't experienced the same issues functionality wise.
But I do mind that the uniformed design is different through MacOS. tab design is now different since i.e folders, mail and preview has the old tab design.
But I do mind that the uniformed design is different through MacOS. tab design is now different since i.e folders, mail and preview has the old tab design.
Oh?
Random pick-a-tab-color game!
Also, the thing Gruber pointed out about "popping" was represented by the bottom-right of the tabs in that grid of awfulness: Though it's the selected tab, it has a lower contrast difference between the text and the tab color, making the text "pop" much less. For the text on the *active* tab to stand out less is an extremely bizarre decision.
Of course in the Private Mode equivalent tab in the upper-right, the opposite is true.
This design language is all over the place. Really beneath Apple's usual standards.
I've come across the occasional components that allow replacing tabs with buttons for a decade by now, but they're always a poor idea because buttons don't signal "front" and "back". At best, they signal "active" but then, like here, you better know which one's active and not mess with that. Tabs, however allow you to mess around with colors for design or browser theme reasons as much as you wish because they graphically signal front and back.
Safari 15 tabs = F U B A R
I haven't moaned publicly about an Apple fail since the expensive Apple III fiasco.
OK yea, the insane external SCSI implementation, Magic Mouse, 1990s Mac TV and uhm ...
My aged head thanks Apple for the eyestrain.
I haven't moaned publicly about an Apple fail since the expensive Apple III fiasco.
OK yea, the insane external SCSI implementation, Magic Mouse, 1990s Mac TV and uhm ...
My aged head thanks Apple for the eyestrain.
It is big enough for my mouse cursor to fit in and a bigger target than we had before. I think we are long past having a full empty title bar for people to click on with no obstructions. We also don't have chrome around the windows, yep people know how to resize them.
They started hiring based on race and sex, rather than just quality…
I’m ok with inclusion at the store level, but let’s only allow smart people design and program, and ignore Sex, race and what ever else… just focuses on ability to get the job done.
Why? Because you disagree with them? And you're right and they are wrong?
You're more than welcome to disagree with them, but there is a false view on the Internet that if you're "pro-something" that you're a shill, brainwashed or stupid. Some people just like things - that doesn't make them lobotomized. And especially considering how negative forums are - this one included - I always find it refreshing when people are positive about something instead of all the cynicism and negativity.
Again - be as critical as you want, but don't assume that people who aren't have an agenda or are being "sheep".
Personally, I find iJustine to be cheerful and fun. If you dislike her content, don't watch, it's as simple as that.
So many people whining and can’t change to something new and better…Makes me wonder if complaining is the number one feat of the default human… 🤯