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and how is a new tab button useful if you've not got a keyboard nearby when you're wanting to type an address in for a new website tab? :rolleyes:

Copy and paste an address?

Anyhow, obviously the fanboys don't understand how one could want the OPTION of this button, so enjoy your browser, I'm out. :)
 
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there IS a new tab button with a simple plugin called safaristand. Works with 3.0 and webkit.

Edit: it can also force all "new window" links to open
in tabs
 
If they had a StumbleUpon option available, I'd switch. Until then, I'm a Firefox man.
 
I find it strange how so many of you don't even want the OPTION of having a new tab button, double clicking to create a new tab, or the multitude of other features that browsers such as firefox and opera have. While I don't want safari to turn into bloatware, I'd say a few extra options would surely be nice (so long as the speed of safari is retained). That said, I really don't care what the new safari is like, because I will continue to use the nightly webkit :p
 
Many times I browse with the keyboard nowhere near me; thus the OPTION of a New Tab button is handy.

Any browser that doesn't offer this OPTION is jokeshop.

And right-click only works in Safari once you have more than one tab going.

:apple::confused:

Do any of you people use a regular 3-button scroll mouse? Seriously, I picked up a nice Dynex black model 5-button optical for under $20 at Best Buy that works GREAT with my Mac. No "option click" or "command click" or whatever the heck you have to remember to open links into a tab. With either Safari or Firefox, just MIDDLE CLICK and it opens automatically into a new tab. I mean I know some of you are Apple zealots, but seriously Apple mice SUCK BIG TIME. It's one area they REALLY need to admit defeat in and get with the ergnomic 3+ button models.

Griping about having to PUSH a keyboard button to open a tab with a link is SILLY to me because if you bought a real mouse, you'd just have to push the scroll-wheel button to open the tab. I thought the newer mice (mighty mouse?) from Apple (this one that came with this Mac was one of those old round non-ergonomic ones that doesn't even have a 2nd button period) had a button at least in the middle of them even if it has no scroll wheel. Or is that button the right mouse button? I never used one and have no desire to since traditional mice work just fine in OSX.


Don't even get me going on Apple keyboards. I liked the mini-USB hub the one that came with this used PowerMac Digital Audio had, but that's the ONLY thing I liked about it. The keys on it need to be pressed VERY hard to register (I'd often have missing characters when I type because apparently I didn't SMASH the keys hard enough...reminds me a little bit of a manual typewriter, believe it or not.... I can't help but wonder if all those comments about problems with the Macbook Pro's keyboard are due to having similar keys on them that require much harder than normal (as in a typical PC keyboard) pressing to register fully). Then there's the fact that particular model doesn't have a DELETE key (just the backspace one, which it CALLS delete and no END key plus small sized arrow keys in a non-standard location... reminds me of a laptop keyboard, really). I've seen their new style "flat" keyboard and I can't imagine that typing well for high speed typers like myself either.

I picked up a decent Logitech keyboard which works great with this Mac (only downside is the ctrl/option/mac keys are mapped differently, but then I blame that on Apple for not following convention; you CAN remap them in OSX any way you like; I made the standard CTRL key into the Command key since all computers on the face of the earth except ones running Apple operating systems use CTRL-C to copy (etc.) not WINDOW key or ALT key (depending on how you look at it or map it) AND it puts it in a different place so those of us that DO use Windows and Linux are perpetually hitting the wrong key by sheer instinct memory. Mapping command to CTRL works great for MacOSX, but if I run X11, I suddenly have to hit ALT since now CTRL is mapped to ALT instead (since CTRL in OSX isn't used for much).

I tried a Dynex on there earlier, but for some bizarre reason my DVD-RW drive kept opening its door on a reboot (known bug with it apparently on the PowerMac... no idea WHY since the Logitech works perfectly fine). I moved that one over to my PC/Linux machine when its keyboard recently died.

I am anxious to see this new Safari 3.1 (assuming the release it for Tiger) since Safari is SO much faster on this PowerMac G4 than Firefox. It actually makes this old machine (dual 533 G4) very usable as an Internet browsing machine (Firefox feels so slow compared to my newer 5600+ PC running Firefox on XP or Linux, but Safari holds its own on the older Mac by comparison) so any further speed improvements can only help. I do agree it would be VERY nice if Safari had extensions like Firefox (I found an Adblock plugin for Safari, but that's about it. I did see a shareware plugin that makes it a lot more customizable, etc., but I refuse to pay for what I can get for free on Firefox. Freeware seems a LOT less common on Macs compard to Windows and Linux. Paying for browser extensions when there are hundreds for Firefox for FREE? I don't think so. If people want Safari to BEAT Firefox in ALL areas, they need to realize that FREE is the major selling point for Firefox + extensions. Safari is free, but most of the plugins/extensions I've seen for it are not. OTOH, if someone can convert Firefox's AdBlock for Safari, why can't more of the best extensions be converted over?
 
(I found an Adblock plugin for Safari, but that's about it. I did see a shareware plugin that makes it a lot more customizable, etc., but I refuse to pay for what I can get for free on Firefox. Freeware seems a LOT less common on Macs compard to Windows and Linux. Paying for browser extensions when there are hundreds for Firefox for FREE? I don't think so. If people want Safari to BEAT Firefox in ALL areas, they need to realize that FREE is the major selling point for Firefox + extensions. Safari is free, but most of the plugins/extensions I've seen for it are not. OTOH, if someone can convert Firefox's AdBlock for Safari, why can't more of the best extensions be converted over?

Take a look at Safari AdBlock which is free :)
 
I find it strange how so many of you don't even want the OPTION of having a new tab button, double clicking to create a new tab, or the multitude of other features that browsers such as firefox and opera have. While I don't want safari to turn into bloatware, I'd say a few extra options would surely be nice (so long as the speed of safari is retained). That said, I really don't care what the new safari is like, because I will continue to use the nightly webkit :p

I like the idea of double-clicking the Tab bar to add a tab. It is very Mac-like in its simplicity.

I'll still be using the nightly builds of WebKit, too. This afternoon's build has made it 81/100 compliant to the Acid3 test.
 
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there IS a new tab button with a simple plugin called safaristand. Works with 3.0 and webkit.

Edit: it can also force all "new window" links to open
in tabs

I can't seem to find this New tab button or option to get that! Can you guide me where in the settings this can be enabled?

I installed this plugin and I like that I am back to Safari again. I started using OmniWeb as it offers this sidebar functionality for looking at tabs. Actually, i like this plugin style even better - it is inside the window rather than as a drawer style. That way it is neatly tucked on the left hand side. Also, now I don't need to remember the terminal command to initiate the debug menu in Safari (used that to open the page in different browser)

EDIT: Actually I figured that if I just double click in the sidebar in the open space, it opens a new tab.
 
MagnusVonMagnum said: (...)seriously Apple mice SUCK BIG TIME(...)I never used one and have no desire to since traditional mice work just fine in OSX.

i think you dig your own hole! get a life! if you've never used one, i suggest you don't talk about it. don't talk about something you don't understand. i like it, and it has more than 3 buttons/sensitive areas, but, you've never used one, so how could you know?! "period". ;)
 
If they had a StumbleUpon option available, I'd switch. Until then, I'm a Firefox man.

Well, if I can be a rambling man for a second. I tried the nightly build and there is a speed increase (so I guess this makes me now a one-minute man instead of a 2-minute man).
But the coolest feature is that safari now has gold rims... calling all gold diggers.
 
Tab button and half a million other buttons later and we end up with something as ugly as IE7.

Use keyboard shortcuts, :apple:+T for a new tab.

The only problem i feel with tabs in Safari is the inability to reorder tabs that go beyond the length of the window into the drop down menu extension, same problem exists for the bookmarks bar aswell.
 
6 pages of 'new tab, new tab' and no mention of command+t??

I thought everyone used keyboard shortcuts for both safari and FF.
 
6 pages of 'new tab, new tab' and no mention of command+t??

I thought everyone used keyboard shortcuts for both safari and FF.

you would be surprised how many ppl out there are majority mice users.
 
Which is why Safari should just copy Firefox in this regard - double click the tab bar to create a new tab.
Am I the only one who never creates a new tab first? All you have to do is start typing in the URL bar and simply hold down the Command button when you hit Return and it automatically opens that link OR Google search in a new tab.
 
Am I the only one who never creates a new tab first? All you have to do is start typing in the URL bar and simply hold down the Command button when you hit Return and it automatically opens that link OR Google search in a new tab.

you might not be the only one, but you are sure not represent all users.

I just realize that 80% of the time, I never need to input anything in url bar, protopage + firefox url bar drop down history pretty much cover most of my websites...
 
I can't seem to find this New tab button or option to get that! Can you guide me where in the settings this can be enabled?

I installed this plugin and I like that I am back to Safari again. I started using OmniWeb as it offers this sidebar functionality for looking at tabs. Actually, i like this plugin style even better - it is inside the window rather than as a drawer style. That way it is neatly tucked on the left hand side. Also, now I don't need to remember the terminal command to initiate the debug menu in Safari (used that to open the page in different browser)

EDIT: Actually I figured that if I just double click in the sidebar in the open space, it opens a new tab.


It's called Command-t.
 
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