Safari 4.0.2

[WestonHarvey1]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1 like Mac OS X; da-dk) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7C97d Safari/528.16)

Had a weird problem after install... My MacBook Pro unibody wouldn't boot afterwards. It came to the grey screen and them just kept flashing a picture of a folder with an arrow in it.
Has anybody had the same problem, and know what it means?

This happens to me sometimes on my old MBP after an update... restarting it has always made it go away. The tech articles on apple.com don't really explain why it happens. I just shrug my shoulders and assume it is a harmless glitch when it happens.

 

[bleachthru]

my biggest issue with the loading bar is that it relocated the Stop/Refresh button. no longer is it a nice large target next to the forward/back buttons but a tiny little thing tucked into the corner of the address bar. it's annoying having to reprogram my muscle memory... yes I know there are keyboard shortcuts, and I use them. but it's nice having the other option be convenient

I am with you 100% on this one! I am fine with apple adding some gimmicky loading bar, whatever. I just wish that in the tool bar customization tab, we still had the ability to add our own stop/reload button, and to be able to add it wherever we want on the toolbar!

Call me crazy, but to me it is much more efficient to have the stop/reload button located right next to the forward and back buttons... I hate having to move my mouse constantly back and forth across the screen. Also I wish we still had the ability to remove the "add bookmark button" as it is now permanently attached to the url window. Again, I am fine with whatever new features apple wants to add to make it "more shiny" and attractive to new users, but please do not take away the user customization that has been there in every version of Safari up until now.

 

[Macmoney]

I'm very close to dropping Safari all togetherSites with animated gifs cause my system to slow to a horrible crawl. Checked My istat pro stats and
my processor activity was off the charts! Safari crashes unexpecteldy alot to.
One last chance and Im dumping this browser. This is unacceptable for a browser that is toted as the fastest pound per pound.

Firefox does not do that!

 

[chrisgeleven]

But does it put the tabs back on the top? I'm not leaving the beta until I can get that.

Smart policy, using a beta browser that will no longer get security updates or rendering improvements. Don't go crying to us if your computer gets hacked, just because you wouldn't part with tabs being on top.

 

[PMR]

I'm very close to dropping Safari all togetherSites with animated gifs cause my system to slow to a horrible crawl. Checked My istat pro stats and
my processor activity was off the charts! Safari crashes unexpecteldy alot to.
One last chance and Im dumping this browser. This is unacceptable for a browser that is toted as the fastest pound per pound.

Firefox does not do that!

I'm tired of that too. I've sent half a dozen bug reports to Apple since 4 beta and nothing. It's getting really embarrassing not being able to handle some animated gifs. Best browser my ass.

 

[sjc83]

Updated good to go...

 

[gavin83209]

What purple?

 

[martynmc7]

Damn, this update doesn't seemed to have fixed the weird colour-scrolling behaviour I get. Anyone else find colours changing on web pages whilst scrolling? It's most noticeable on here: http://www.llewtube.com/ where all the black and white checks in the background turn blue whilst I'm scrolling. Not a system-wide problem as Firefox doesn't do this whilst scrolling.

 

[martynmc7]

Wait...scratch that, it happens on Firefox as well...an issue with the 9400? I have a MacBook Pro 13" updated to the recent firmware.

 

[nozebleed]

Anyone know of any "maliciously crafted websites"? are they talking about like, gingergenerator.com?

 

[LCPGUY]

Am I the only one that feels a restart should not be necessary for a browser update?

Folks, the reason it has to be restarted is because it is replacing WebKIT system wide. For instance, Mail relies on WebKIT and things would go bonkers with two versions active at the same time.

 

[mrobmsu]

"I've discovered that the crashes I was having were caused by outdated plugins or input managers . . . ."

You're right on, BRL. Every time I read these infantile "Safari is so-o-o-o-o unstable and crashy . . ." posts I know for a fact that one or more plugins are the culprits. If the people who created these cute little add-ons would simply join the ADG (Apple Developers Group)--and thereby work with the latest and greatest builds--99.99% of such erroneous reports would disappear overnight.

I've never had Safari crash on my four Macs. Not once. But, then again, I don't "do" third-party plugins/add-ons from untrained and uncertified amateur developers.

I'm just sayin' . . . .

I have 0 plugins or addons, and Safari crashes on my MBP fairly often.

 

[MacManiac76]

Geez, how on earth can you actually like the stupid and pretty much useless "Loading" bar, when the old blue bar was so much better looking and it actually served its purpose in informing you about the loading progress!

I'm totally with you on this. The new UI (progress indicator, refresh button) is going backwards as far as user interactivity goes.

 

[mrkgoo]

. Also I wish we still had the ability to remove the "add bookmark button" as it is now permanently attached to the url window.

 

[iMaggot]

I really hope this improves Safari's stability... I've had way more crashes with Safari 4 than I ever did with Safari 3

Yeah i agree, and the new FF is crashing allot on me as well

 

[DELLsFan]

Geez, how on earth can you actually like the stupid and pretty much useless "Loading" bar, when the old blue bar was so much better looking and it actually served its purpose in informing you about the loading progress!

I'm totally with you on this. The new UI (progress indicator, refresh button) is going backwards as far as user interactivity goes.

+1

I loved the old blue progress bar inside the address field.

 

[WickedRabbit]

i can only hope it solves the crashing issues ive had...

I stopped using Safari arguably for this same reason. It's been crashing a few times away every week since Safari 4 went out of beta (ironically, didn't crash during beta). Plus, after comparing it in speed on my iMac for loading websites against Firefox 3.5, Firefox was beating Safari 4 for me by a pretty good amount of time so I decided to just go back to using Firefox like I use to. Those issues plus I hated the way Safari lacks being able to view picture properties via right clicking and a host of other things.

Sorry Safari, you're good, but you've got a long way to go before you catch up to the mighty Firefox in a lot of areas.

Firefox should steal the way Safari handles RSS feeds though. I like being able to see a little number counter next to the site name instead of the huge drop down list that Firefox gives.

 

[Matthew Yohe]

+1

I loved the old blue progress bar inside the address field.

I'm totally with you on this. The new UI (progress indicator, refresh button) is going backwards as far as user interactivity goes.

Actually it isn't. Please inform us how you think it is.

(Loading web pages is non linear, so the blue bar was always a "guess" anyway)

 

[DELLsFan]

Actually it isn't. Please inform us how you think it is...

For me, as I see more of the blue bar loading in the URL field, I THINK I am able to discern more about the status of the page being loaded and am better poised to "interact" with my browser than with a spinning wheel animation.

 

[Matthew Yohe]

For me, as I see more of the blue bar loading in the URL field, I THINK I am able to discern more about the status of the page being loaded and am better poised to "interact" with my browser than with a spinning wheel animation.

Right, but the question is why are you staring at the spinning cog? You can't look at a page before it is finished?

This is why the new method is brilliant.

A page load in Safari 4 looks like this:
1) Safari downloads content from the network, and you get the blue "Loading..." box.

2) Safari has now downloaded enough images, HTML, CSS etc to begin displaying the page, so it does so, and then fades the Loading... box to grey

*** This is where your eyes should stop looking at the loading box/spinning wheel, and begin looking at the page ***

3) The page continues to load, and literally becomes the 'progress bar' for the site.

4) Safari finishes downloading, and displays the entire page, of which you are already looking at.


Now, why would you wait till step 4 before you even start looking at the page?

 

[twoodcc]

i'll have to install this soon

 

[castlema]

I am sure that 4.0.2 has many wonderful improvements but I have seen nothing about SnapBack returning to the address bar. Everyone has something that is a deal breaker, this one is mine.

 

[techpr]

I too still have the beta. No tabs on top, no deal.

So you guys prefer the Tabs on Top instead of Security fixes and Stability.

 

[chelsel]

Damn, this update doesn't seemed to have fixed the weird colour-scrolling behaviour I get. Anyone else find colours changing on web pages whilst scrolling? It's most noticeable on here: http://www.llewtube.com/ where all the black and white checks in the background turn blue whilst I'm scrolling. Not a system-wide problem as Firefox doesn't do this whilst scrolling.

Happening to me on almost all sites, including macrumors with Safari 4.02 and a 2009 MP w/ NVidia GT120

 

[smartalic34]

what is this purple business people are mentioning?