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Safari 5, AirPlay and AppleTV (oh my!)
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Yes it is iOS5, as it's the iOS5 update to the Apple TV I was referring to, not an iPhone or iPad.
iOS for ATV2 is currently on 4.4.3, not 5. Although it supports features that in other iDevices are only supported in iOS 5.
Wrong. It's on iOS 5, the software version on iOS 5 is 4.4.3. Go to the about screen where it tells you te software version of 4.4.3 and press the select button and it will tell you it's running iOS 5
Huh, would you look at that... Talk about making it more confusing than it have to be, letting iOS 4 stop at 4.3 and then have iOS 5 starting with 4.4 on the ATV2, but with 5.0 on all other devices. Is there any logical reason behind this?
The Apple TV software is basically an app that runs on top of iOS 5. So the ATV software itself has a version number just like Angry Birds or Garage Band or any other app running on iOS5 has a version number. You can update the "ATV app" just like any other app on iDevices and that update is independent of the OS it is running on. So Apple TV is currently at 4.4.3.
However, you can also update the OS itself and Apple TV is currently at iOS5. When the OS itself is updated, new capabilities are possible. The software is updated to take advantage of these new capabilities and APIs.
You're confusing the operating system it's running on with its software version.
However, you can also update the OS itself and Apple TV is currently at iOS5. When the OS itself is updated, new capabilities are possible. The software is updated to take advantage of these new capabilities and APIs.
You're confusing the operating system it's running on with its software version.
To be honest, I think you're more or less correct. It's probably iOS 4.x.x with additional features borrowed from iOS5; they just 'brand' it iOS5 for marketing purposes & "simplicity".
Thanks, I figured as much. But I still think it's unnecessarily confusing
Of course people are going to be confused when iOS 4.3 came at the same time as Apple TV 4.3 and iOS 5 at the same time as Apple TV 4.4... And the first Apple TV version was 4.0, which was released with iOS 4.1...
Oh damn... so this doesn't actually work anymore?
I wish I never updated... Atv2 also took away the sorting order when you're watching movies streamed off of your computer... on the first release of 4.4 you could still have the order under All movies be "Newest First" if you have it sorted that way on your computer.
Now it's alphabetical at all times.
I wish I never updated... Atv2 also took away the sorting order when you're watching movies streamed off of your computer... on the first release of 4.4 you could still have the order under All movies be "Newest First" if you have it sorted that way on your computer.
Now it's alphabetical at all times.
Can anyone test this extension out now with the new 4.4.4?
http://www.redmondpie.com/apple-tv-4.4.4-9a406a-firmware-update-now-available-for-download/
The official changelog notes:
http://www.redmondpie.com/apple-tv-4.4.4-9a406a-firmware-update-now-available-for-download/
The official changelog notes:
So same problem then; sounds like it hasn't been fixed. Hmm. 4.4.4 just came out today -- you're running that one?
Guess I'll be sticking with 4.3 for awhile longer.
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So same problem then; sounds like it hasn't been fixed. Hmm. 4.4.4 just came out today -- you're running that one?
Guess I'll be sticking with 4.3 for awhile longer.
i've got the 5.0 (iOS 5.1) beta downloaded, going to install it when i get home and will try that, see if that has any joy.
Another interesting wrinkle to this recipe. The jailbreak add-on AirServer, version 3.0.1 adds "support for the ClickToPlugin Safari AirPlay extension."
I have this $4.99 add-on installed on my iPhone 4 and iPad (both of which are jailbroken.) I'm able to stream video from iTunes to display on these devices, and I am able to also send that video to my AppleTV's display. It's all rather slick.
I haven't been able to get it working yet from Safari/Mac by way of ClickToPlugin, though. I've written to the developer of AirServer for assistance.
My thinking is that if it can be set to work, this would represent a suitable workaround in the meantime, while AppleTV/iOS firmwares later than 4.3.3 remain broken for this function. If we can get this working, we can use ClickToPlugin to send video from Safari to a jailbroken iOS device running AirServer, which in turn would send the same video to an AppleTV running the current firmware... without stopping at the minute mark.
Obviously it's best if we didn't need to involve the iPhone or iPad as a middleman, and obviously, the fact that AirServer requires these devices to jailbroken isn't ideal... but at least it's something that works for folks who have let their AppleTV's update beyond 4.3.3.
I have this $4.99 add-on installed on my iPhone 4 and iPad (both of which are jailbroken.) I'm able to stream video from iTunes to display on these devices, and I am able to also send that video to my AppleTV's display. It's all rather slick.
I haven't been able to get it working yet from Safari/Mac by way of ClickToPlugin, though. I've written to the developer of AirServer for assistance.
My thinking is that if it can be set to work, this would represent a suitable workaround in the meantime, while AppleTV/iOS firmwares later than 4.3.3 remain broken for this function. If we can get this working, we can use ClickToPlugin to send video from Safari to a jailbroken iOS device running AirServer, which in turn would send the same video to an AppleTV running the current firmware... without stopping at the minute mark.
Obviously it's best if we didn't need to involve the iPhone or iPad as a middleman, and obviously, the fact that AirServer requires these devices to jailbroken isn't ideal... but at least it's something that works for folks who have let their AppleTV's update beyond 4.3.3.
Same problem on iOS 5.1 (apple tv software 5.0)
What beta of 5.1 have you tried? I believe they've since released a 2nd beta. Can you try that one please and report back?
They've actually released 3 betas. I tried beta 2 and that's it. Not bothering to try now til GM as I'm not using the betas on my devices currently.
Oh, okay, thanks.
According to these notes from 1/9/12, when beta 3 of iOS 5.1 came out, Apple released beta 2 for AppleTV.
Since your post was from three weeks earlier (12/16/11) I figured I'd ask.
http://www.cultofmac.com/139156/apple-releases-ios-5-1-beta-3-with-the-ability-to-toggle-3g-again/
While we wait hopefully for Apple to fix this issue and make the ClickToFlash's AirPlay functionality work again, I have found something interesting y'all might want to play around with as a substitute.
Plex on the jailbroken AppleTV is fantastic. If you're keen to jailbreak your AppleTV (which is very easy these days) then I highly recommend you install the latest Plex and check it out.
My favorite is the MyPlex component. Come across a web video on your computer... click a toolbar button (or bookmarklet) to add it to your "queue"... and boom, it's available on Plex, on your AppleTV, for bigscreen viewing. Just like ClickToFlash's AirPlay feature. Sure, it's a few extra clicks... but it works with the minimum of hassle.
Unlike ClickToFlash's mechanism, MyPlex's queue works on Vimeo videos too. :up:
Plex on the jailbroken AppleTV is fantastic. If you're keen to jailbreak your AppleTV (which is very easy these days) then I highly recommend you install the latest Plex and check it out.
My favorite is the MyPlex component. Come across a web video on your computer... click a toolbar button (or bookmarklet) to add it to your "queue"... and boom, it's available on Plex, on your AppleTV, for bigscreen viewing. Just like ClickToFlash's AirPlay feature. Sure, it's a few extra clicks... but it works with the minimum of hassle.
Unlike ClickToFlash's mechanism, MyPlex's queue works on Vimeo videos too. :up:
Every time i try to put plex onto my AppleTV, i get stuck with a black screen, so not as simple as you make out really...
Hmm. Works fine for me and was super easy to install. I used the (free) Seas0nPass to jailbreak, paid for ATVFlash (Black) to install the goodies.
Plex also lets me easily stream non-iTunes-friendly content, like .AVIs and .MKVs... in a very elegant and user-friendly UI.
Plex also lets me easily stream non-iTunes-friendly content, like .AVIs and .MKVs... in a very elegant and user-friendly UI.
Paying for ATV Flash (black) is one thing, but buying it in order to install Plex, which is free, seems a bit odd.
Well, truth be told, I didn't actually "buy it for Plex." I bought it (when it was in beta) for it's own Media Player, which integrates into the AppleTV's menu scheme more seamlessly. I also bought it because it installs so many other things with the minimum of fuss. I'd read the instructions on how to do it all manually (as well as the trouble some folks would have, in support forums, such as shandyman's above) so I decided it was money well spent to avoid the hassle. I'd been enjoying all of this for almost a year now.
It wasn't until the most recent update to Plex (with the "queue" stuff) that I decided to check that particular component out. And now that I've seen what it's capable of, I'm blown away. It's slicker than XBMC and more powerful than Firecore's Media Player.
Sure, I could rest on ceremony that paying for an installer for free software is "odd" -- but in the end, I decided time is money, life's short, and I was happy to have the chance to avoid any aggravation and get everything taken care of nicely with one nice piece of software. Firecore's offering a good product here, and I don't feel ripped off in the slightest.
And they're constantly improving it. Just today it got a GREAT update, with some very useful features for jailbreakers, not available elsewhere: http://blog.firecore.com/6948
Updating every component is SOOO much easier with their tools, than doing it "by hand" in Terminal. Money well spent, as far as I'm concerned.
It wasn't until the most recent update to Plex (with the "queue" stuff) that I decided to check that particular component out. And now that I've seen what it's capable of, I'm blown away. It's slicker than XBMC and more powerful than Firecore's Media Player.
Sure, I could rest on ceremony that paying for an installer for free software is "odd" -- but in the end, I decided time is money, life's short, and I was happy to have the chance to avoid any aggravation and get everything taken care of nicely with one nice piece of software. Firecore's offering a good product here, and I don't feel ripped off in the slightest.
And they're constantly improving it. Just today it got a GREAT update, with some very useful features for jailbreakers, not available elsewhere: http://blog.firecore.com/6948
Updating every component is SOOO much easier with their tools, than doing it "by hand" in Terminal. Money well spent, as far as I'm concerned.
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