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Safari 5 and Xcode 4 Coming at WWDC
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IB 3 was a big upgrade from 2, and I think is very nice now. What do you not like about it?
In the first sentence you say Chrome has been amazing, and near the end of your post you say you don't really enjoy using Chrome. I'm so confused, please tell me why you contradicted yourself, please, oh please.
Hardware acceleration for Safari for Windows. Safari on the Mac already has it. Safari's Windows performance suffers from the lack of GPU access, and Apple seems to be looking to correct this deficiency to make Safari a better cross-platform browser. It's only "biased toward Microsoft" because Safari is biased toward Macs.
Because "doing one task" doesn't mean utilizing one window in the Mac model. I'm working in Word on one task (or was, until a moment ago), and though Word is the only application on my desktop and only one document is open, there are three windows, which gives me the freedom to layer them instead of having to split the screen--if I want to focus on one, I can put it on top without either losing access to the tools of the other windows or having a bigger toolbar or built-in pane eat up the workspace (on Windows, they would all be contained in a single window). OS X is designed for high level interactivity--that's why you have floating inspectors, sliding drawers, the Dock, spring-loaded folders, and by design, always have a strip of exposure back to the desktop and always have the menubar. It's for drag-and-drop operation and switching between multiple windows within an application.
If you want more space, you can resize the window you're working in, but it is not designed for "kiosk" mode, which is what you're asking for, because it's not the way the workflow is set up. Applications with a use case can have a full screen function, and I agree that Safari should have a built-in kiosk mode like many other browsers do, but an OS-level maximize function for arbitrary windows is contrary to the desktop design.
On Windows, the emphasis is on the self-contained application window. Multiple windows are multiple, independent instances. Because everything you need is in one window, this lends itself well to maximizing.
It's not right or wrong to do it the OS X way or the Windows way, but they are different, and expecting one to behave as the other does is wrong. The difference in workflow is one of the considerations in choosing your preferred platform.
It's like the Dock vs. the Windows taskbar. They're different designs based on different interaction models. There is some overlap in function and some blurring of distinction, but one is not a deficient version of the other.
It's not unpredictable at all. It always toggles between a user-defined state and the developer-defined state. The only place it's truly unpredictable is iTunes (and they tried to fix it, but everyone complained, so back it went).
Its "intended function" is the choice complained about--the green button lets you choose if you want to, or it lets the program choose. It is not, nor has it ever been, nor will it ever be, a maximize button.
Safari regularly benchmarks faster than Firefox on Mac for Flash performance. Trolls like to troll, but Flash didn't suddenly become an issue because Apple declared it so. It has been hated for a decade for good reasons.
That some ill-informed wankers on both sides have taken to trading punches over it shows only that it has reached a critical mass to be included in your petty turf wars.
i think there is SOME inconsistency, but that comes from individual developers, not apple.
I hate all those Mac ports of windoze/linux apps that force you to use ctrl ignoring that the 'real' mac equivalent is cmd. What's next, "Press the Windows key"?
Mac Generation reports that Safari 5 will be announced at WWDC. According to the published release notes, the update will include:
- Safari Reader: view articles on the web on a single, clutter-free page
- Improved performance. 25% faster Javascript, Better caching and DNS pre-fetching
- Bing Search Option
- Improved HTML 5 support
- Safari Developer Tools
- Smart Address field
- Tab settings
- Hardware acceleration for Windows
Meanwhile, MacRumors has heard that a major update to Xcode (version 4) is in the works and will also be demonstrated at WWDC.
Article Link: Safari 5 and Xcode 4 Coming at WWDC
Steve give us back the blue progress bar or dont bother at all!!!
Safari and Xcode
Safari:
1 - It will use WebKit2.
2 - It will still have PPC support but you will need Leopard or newer.
Xcode:
1 - Clang/LLVM is mature enough that Apple can create an Xcode IDE with an emulated Mac system that can be run on Windows.
2 - Xcode has a plugin system so Visual Studio users can develop for the Mac, or at least the iPhone OS devices.
3 - The iPad will get an Xcode app that will let you create iPad UIs and type code. It will not compile the UI or code, but will be able to connect to a mac that can compile them and send back status information.
4 - The iPad will get developer documentation in an iBook format so developers can read up on documentation at their leisure.
Safari:
1 - It will use WebKit2.
2 - It will still have PPC support but you will need Leopard or newer.
Xcode:
1 - Clang/LLVM is mature enough that Apple can create an Xcode IDE with an emulated Mac system that can be run on Windows.
2 - Xcode has a plugin system so Visual Studio users can develop for the Mac, or at least the iPhone OS devices.
3 - The iPad will get an Xcode app that will let you create iPad UIs and type code. It will not compile the UI or code, but will be able to connect to a mac that can compile them and send back status information.
4 - The iPad will get developer documentation in an iBook format so developers can read up on documentation at their leisure.
Do you know of any examples? iTunes is the only one I can think of.
Obviously to those developers, but you'll have to get in line behind me.
You mock something you don't understand when you say 'it's just stupid to have so much left over unused space on the browser if the content doesn't fill up the window.'
Here's a tip u should try. Use Cmd + '+' and u'll open up a whole new world of awesomeness that only Chuck Norris will understand. Also try install 'better touch tool' and enable pinch to zoom both on track pad and magic mouse.
Combine that with Opera web browser (which has the BEST zooming function of any browser similar to iphone and ipad zooming) then the only thing you will do is run your browser in full screen.
You will then buy a chair that leans all the way back then you will fully appreciate using a browser on a 30" screen while it's in full screen mode.
I have spoken.
Chrome is a horrible piece of junk on OS X. Its extensions are third rate crap. The scrolling is the laggiest I've ever seen on a full released browser. People just won't admit it b/c CHROMEZ ROXORZ!!11 If hipsters and the psychotic google bots tell me so, it must to be true.
Why would anyone ever leave Firefox if extensions are what they're after?
LOL.
Chrome is the best web browser for OSX. (Other platforms too).
It's extensions are vastly better than Firefox.
Scrolling is an issue specific to you.
People just won't admit that it's better than just about any other browser out there because they're in denial.
Firefox is a bloated piece of crap on OSX, not to mention it's extension system is the biggest piece of crap.
inb4: To each his own.
Its extensions are not in the same stratosphere as Firefox's.
Scrolling in Chrome, specifically on notebooks' mouse pads, is well known to be laggy and clunky. It's certainly not specific to me. Search the forum for "scrolling chrome".
Chrome is perfectly adequate on Windows, but it has a long way to go on OS X.
What alternate universe are from?
Firefox works very good for me on OSX. I tried Chrome and was not impressed. Removed it straight away.
Say what? Everyone should use Opera 10.54
OPERA ROXORZ!!11
/s
No seriously, Opera is to browsers what Apple is to Operating systems.
Pure genius pioneers. Like gods that others wish to imitate and never quite get there.
i hope "Safari Developer Tools" is for authoring Safari specific extensions and not for authoring Safari specific websites, much like Apple's HTML5 demo earlier this week.
+1 for some kind of different window workflow, I spend my time coding hitting ⌘-` over and over again trying to find the window I want. Don't know if tabs are the answer but something ought to be.
Similarly better integration with the documentation window would be nice, always takes 5 keypresses to find it and 5 more to get back to the piece of code I was working on, at which point my senior mind has forgotten what it was I wanted and I have to go do it all again.
I'm fine with XCode 3.2 at this point but if they can make it better, I'll all for it
That would rock. I would love to be able to see the documentation on my iPad, both for reading and to have the 'manual' open beside me when I'm working.
I can't argue with you there. Opera basically creates everything, and then everyone else copies it. I, personally dont use it, but I could never understand why more folks don't use it.
Well, I was unaware of the issue with notebooks. I have a macbook pro and an imac and scrolling is perfectly fine.
As for the extensions not being in the same "stratosphere", could you please elaborate? I've always hated Firefox's add-on implementation (slow, modifying them or installing requires restart, etc.).
Chrome doesn't have as many extensions, but there are still thousands..
Back at you.
Firefox, of all the major Mac browsers (Camino, Stainless, Flock, Safari, Chrome, iCab, etc) is the slowest to start. It is also one of the slowest to load pages, certainly much slower than any of the WebKit based browsers.
What exactly unimpressed you about Chrome? I do remember my first time with Chrome:Mac, about a year ago, and I was disappointed. Didn't feel polished. However, since then, it has become my primary, if not sole browser.
sounds good to me. i have noticed that chrome is faster than safari in windows, so hopefully this will put safari ahead. looking forward to xcode 4 also. i wonder if there will be a windows version
Chrome's not too bad, the best option for users who use tabs a lot, clean, efficient. My only problem is it's sluggish Java, and how the hell do I get to view PDFs natively in the browser without it downloading it to the downloads stack. Safari has had this for years, and Firefox has an extension to deal with it. Really sad they haven't been able to implement this, or maybe there is a way I haven't found, and no I don't use Google Docs.
The adblock extensions (ABP) are light years better in Firefox. Chrome's adblockers don't actually block ads, they hide them after they download. What's the point?
Things like greasemonkey, noscript, session manager, download them all are far better than the alternatives in Chrome.
I agree that the addon implementation in Firefox needs to be revamped and apparently will be in upcoming releases.
I don't know why every browser MUST have extensions or it sucks. I am perfectly fine w/ Safari being a standard bare bones browsers. Different strokes for different folks.
Search it at chrome extensions. I could suggest one, but there's lots. Just use Google's own extension for it. I do.
Already said inb4 to each his own. Even so, who said extensions make or break a browser? You brought it up.
Adblock for Chrome is on-par with Firefox. Not sure what information you were looking at with the "pseudo-blocking"; it's not the case. Greasemonkey for chrome, noscript for chrome all work great, same as in FF. I don't know what download them all is.