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Safari 5 is NOT a disaster after all

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2Evan

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I upgraded to Safari 5 yesterday. Usually an upgrade on a MAC is the simplest thing. But now: Ridiculous! The farthest I get is my home page, my favorites. Then, impossible to even load a page (by clicking on one of my fav sites, or typing in a word in the search box, or entering an address in the address bar). The highlighting in the address bar goes about to the http in the address, then hangs/freezes for about a minute, and then 'Hello Crash Report!!!'. I've deleted the upgrade, and installed 5.0 directly from the Apple site, then tried the Disk Utilility app. Nothing! I feel like I'm working with a bleeping Windows computer.

BTW, my requirements are fine. Leopard 10.5.8.

Any suggestions?

Thks!
 
Safari 5 JUNK

DO NOT DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL SAFARI 5!!!

I upgraded on my macbook pro. Completely trashed the OS. Tried to repair from disk. Lots of red entries and problems that needed fixing (i'm not a techie so dont ask!). Disk repair said it had worked but it did not and when I tried to start up had my very own mac BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH. Going into the WINDOWS partion was OK but going into the MAC OS there was nothing completely trashed.

Restored from backup (Time machine) and all is OK.

I have 4 imacs three iphones and am sick and tired of the Apple mantra that It just works.....it often does not and in 3 years I have never had the magnitude of damage to my business from a PC environment that I have had from the macs. Numerous majro crashes on all machines. Next time around I'm junking the macs.
 
Hmm, I'm thinking you guys are experiencing a bug of some sort. I upgraded both of my Macs, one running 10.6.3 and the other running 10.5.8 PPC and it works flawlessly on both. I installed it on both using Software Update, if it makes any difference.

Out of curiosity, did either of you have any third-party plugins installed before updating? If so, that may be the cause of your problems. Prior to Safari 5, all plugins were essentially unsupported hacks.
 
Nick: I love MAC, but I feel your pain! I simply dumped Safari for good (FF and Chrome will do). Fastest but most unstable browser I've ever used. But this above is too much. No techie either, one of the reasons I go with the Apple.

I also updated from Software Update as usual. Plug-ins, no plug-ins, don't want to start checking for that every time I update software. Doing that is probably called Windows.
 
Safari 5 on my MacBook is soo slow!! Firefox runs circles around it. I've always used Safari since I've had a Mac, but I am about to dump it and use Chrome. Chrome is my default browser on my Windows machine at work and it's fast!
 
I feel your pain, but...

It really sucks that your having these difficulties. I must say however, that I have installed every update to any Apple program I have when it came out; ever since I switched to Apple 6 years ago. I have never had anything fail to work the first time. All installations have been flawless and I have never experienced any problem I have seen people complain about at MacRumors.

I guess I just live a charmed life.

hawk
 
hawksma said:
It really sucks that your having these difficulties. I must say however, that I have installed every update to any Apple program I have when it came out; ever since I switched to Apple 6 years ago. I have never had anything fail to work the first time. All installations have been flawless and I have never experienced any problem I have seen people complain about at MacRumors.

I guess I just live a charmed life.

hawk
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I've been this way for 4 years until this Safari 5 update..it won't load a page at all and it crashes before I can even tinker with the settings...enough other cool browsers out there but the more I use FF the more I miss Safari..:(
 
Safari 5 works perfectly for me. As a matter of fact, what you describe is exactly what Safari *4* was doing on my computer. The update fixed it all.

Did you try deleting the preferences files? Home folder > Library > Preferences > com.apple.Safari
 
Just here to chime in with - 5's working perfectly for me. Faultless. The OS hasn't been harmed either. Both my 2006 iMac and 2008 Macbook are running fine and peachy.
 
NICKTHEPAT said:
DO NOT DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL SAFARI 5!!!
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That's an irresponsible statement to make. Just because you have a problem on your specific computer doesn't mean everyone else has the same issue. Many of us have no problems at all with Safari 5. It runs faster than Safari 4 and is very stable. It's foolish to think that the first culprit is Safari 5, when there are a myriad of other possible factors that are unique to your system's configuration that are likely the cause of your problems.
 
I've had major problems since the upgrade. 90% of the pages I visit never completely load. At the bottom boarder of the Safari window I get error messages or it just refuses to load the final items, i.e. "completed 31 of 32 items".

I miss Safari 4:(
 
Jmodamagicmofo said:
I've had major problems since the upgrade. 90% of the pages I visit never completely load. At the bottom boarder of the Safari window I get error messages or it just refuses to load the final items, i.e. "completed 31 of 32 items".

I miss Safari 4:(
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What error messages, exactly? What sites?
 
I would hardly call a handful of bugs an unmitigated disaster. Most users seem to be seeing no issues. I've got four machines updated so far, my MacBook and iMac G4, my wife's MacBook, and my brother's MacBook Pro. All are running fine. I had ClickToFlash installed on my iMac, so at least we know that particular hack doesn't cause Safari to commit hari kari.

If anything, I'm glad the blue loading bar made a return, and my iMac now runs HTML5 video smoother than it did. Just thought I'd chime in with my experience.
 
Jmodamagicmofo said:
From the activity window of Safari, the item below was listed as never loading and stated 'error' in the status portion. It is from nytimes homepage.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/bcvide...stId=1194811622188&v=1.07&playerType=homepage

This is just one of many examples....
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It worked fine for me on Safari 5:
Picture 1.jpg​
So the problem isn't Safari 5. It's something on your system. Either a modification or other software that's creating the problem. If the problem was the browser itself, everyone using the browser would have the same problem.

It baffles me how so many people are quick to abandon and talk trash about software apps when they don't work as expected, rather than simply diagnosing the problem. In the vast majority of cases, the "issues" turn out to be something the user has done or installed on their system, rather than the "disaster" software they are so quick to blame.
 
I also want to chime in with the opposite. Safari 5 has been great for me. No such issues as described above.

I'm finding it to be snappier than Firefox, and I love the Reader.
 
All the Safari is snappy, snappier, snappiest after the latest OS update it is refreshing to see an actual Safari update thread saying Safari trashed everything else.
 
GGJstudios said:
It worked fine for me on Safari 5:
So the problem isn't Safari 5. It's something on your system. Either a modification or other software that's creating the problem. If the problem was the browser itself, everyone using the browser would have the same problem.

It baffles me how so many people are quick to abandon and talk trash about software apps when they don't work as expected, rather than simply diagnosing the problem. In the vast majority of cases, the "issues" turn out to be something the user has done or installed on their system, rather than the "disaster" software they are so quick to blame.
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Well that's good news, but what's the diagnosis? I'm not trash talking. Many issues began happening the moment I upgraded to Safari 5. It was a reasonable initial assumption.
 
GGJstudios said:
It worked fine for me on Safari 5:
So the problem isn't Safari 5. It's something on your system. Either a modification or other software that's creating the problem. If the problem was the browser itself, everyone using the browser would have the same problem.

It baffles me how so many people are quick to abandon and talk trash about software apps when they don't work as expected, rather than simply diagnosing the problem. In the vast majority of cases, the "issues" turn out to be something the user has done or installed on their system, rather than the "disaster" software they are so quick to blame.
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ACTUALLY your images says loading 65 of 66. So is it working properly?
 
Jmodamagicmofo said:
ACTUALLY your images says loading 65 of 66. So is it working properly?
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Yes, it's working properly. Sometimes an element has been moved on the site, so the page can't find it. (broken links, etc.) Sometimes larger elements (like videos) take a while to download, so they won't show up as completed until they've finished downloading. Most of the time, a website will still work properly, even if some elements don't load. I turned my ad-blockers off to view the page, but leaving them on, many items won't load. You might look at any ad-blocking software you have installed, firewall settings, etc.
 
GGJstudios said:
Yes, it's working properly. Sometimes an element has been moved on the site, so the page can't find it. (broken links, etc.) Sometimes larger elements (like videos) take a while to download, so they won't show up as completed until they've finished downloading. Most of the time, a website will still work properly, even if some elements don't load. I turned my ad-blockers off to view the page, but leaving them on, many items won't load. You might look at any ad-blocking software you have installed, firewall settings, etc.
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Well it's been almost an hour now and the page still says loading. It happens all the time now. It's like Safari is insisting on loading these items and it bogs the application down if I continue browsing in another tab. It seems like a Safari issue to me.
 
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