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Safari 5 is NOT a disaster after all

Safari 5 woks fine on my hackintosh and my mom's MBP. I used Apple Software Updater to get it. I also used Software Updater on a Windows Vista pc with Safari 4. Now Safari will crash. Its Safari 5, but when going to gmail or macrumors it crashes, and Windows says safari stopped working. This Windows problem is also occurring on my other Windows hard drive, so it seems like Safari for Windows is a major issue
 
2Evan said:
Thks for your help. Safari 5 has been running alright since last night, 2-3 hours of Veetle - and boy it is fast! I think the key was deleting the Pref folder. I'd cleared almost everything else, to no avail. I kept my bookmarks, all the plug-ins (quite a list - not sure how I would have deleted them, or which ones were 3rd party, all I supposed), and Del.icio.us Safari is working perfectly.
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Glad it's working~~I'll get there eventually:D
 
I upgraded 1 17" Macbook Pro, 1 iMac, 1 Mac Pro, and 1 Mac Pro with OS X Server. No problems on any system although I'll still use Firefox to go to unknown (or known questionable sites like Facebook) until No Script, Ghost, etc. get ported to Safari.
 
When I switched from Windows I started using Safari, because it was already installed and I like it since that time. Safari 5 was very slow at first, but it was problem with my ISP's dns servers, not Safari problem. Not it's crazy fast and I like extensions as well. All in all great update to already great browser.
 
Not everybody is experiencing problems like that. I installed the update on Tuesday and it ran fine, no slowing down or anything.
 
I admit defeat~~I did all the recommended things from here & the Apple support forum...I did learn how to easily reinstall Safari 4.0.5 so that's done and working well (used a program called Pacifist)...when it updates again I'll try S5.

..now to move the bookmarks back over from FF & do all the resets..maybe I could have done it from timemachine?


http://www.charlessoft.com/
 
keekl said:
.I did learn how to easily reinstall Safari 4.0.5 so that's done and working well (used a program called Pacifist)...
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Would you mind providing more detailed instructions for other interested members? ...the link is for Pacifist, in case anyone wants to know that without clicking on it
 
Staying With Safari 4

I have been using Safari since I got my Imac in '06. I am non-tech, so I don't want to switch from something I like, after reading the problems some are having with S.5. "If a problem is out there, it will come" (to paraphrase Field Of Dreams)
 
Now that Safari 5 supports extensions, and I was able to find an ad blocking extension, it is now my default browser. It's more intuitive than Chrome, launches faster, renders faster, and the Reader feature is awesome.

Just thought I'd mention that.
 
keekl said:
Where else other than Safari can I get to those 3d party plugins? Safari won't stay open long enough to work there.

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I went to Finder, entered Safari, got to the SafariAdBlocker and uninstalled it, restarted, but no change...not sure of what else I might have or where to look.
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plugins are installed in

/Library/Internet Plug-Ins

or in the user's

~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins


Have you looked in there?



Have you tried disabling safari plug-ins from Safari's Preferences? to find out if it is a plugin is causing the crashing, which it may not be. It could be something else. Go to Safari's Preference, click on the security tab and uncheck enable plugins. Once you done that quit Safari and open it. This will disable every plugin that safari is using.

and if the crash has stop crashing, then you would know it a plugin that safari is using, because you have disabled it from safari''s preference. Otherwise it something else on your system causing the crash.
 
Damo01 said:
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Have you tried disabling safari plug-ins from Safari's Preferences? ...
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As a general proposition, Internet Plugins do not cause compatibility issues and crashes. All they do is to enable your browser's ability to handle additional media formats. They are used by all of the browsers on your Mac.

Compatibility issues are generally caused by haxies. Haxies are intended to change the behavior of Safari. The new extension architecture in Safari, hopefully, will eliminate the demand for haxies and the compatibility headaches that they cause.
 
MisterMe said:
As a general proposition, Internet Plugins do not cause compatibility issues and crashes. All they do is to enable your browser's ability to handle additional media formats. They are used by all of the browsers on your Mac.

Compatibility issues are generally caused by haxies. Haxies are intended to change the behavior of Safari. The new extension architecture in Safari, hopefully, will eliminate the demand for haxies and the compatibility headaches that they cause.
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yes I know what they do ok , and so they should work without any crashes or issues... unless you have third parties or add ons installed. which there aren't many for safari such as the surf canyon plugin, which is just a plug in for a search engine. This was compatible with Safari 4. Now that apple has release
a newer version of Safari, the surf canyon plugin does not work because it not compatible with the new version.

There can be compatibility issues when it comes to a newer version of a any software, which can be broken.
 
numbersyx said:
No problems at all for me. BTW, the Safari Reader is just beautiful....
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No problems for me either ... And I really like Reader, too. But it strikes me that Reader exists because web designers are doing a pretty poor job presenting long galleys of text.

Remember when you could click on a "printer friendly" button of a web page and you'd get a page without ads? (Yeah, I'm that old.) Now you get a page that just lacks the navigation buttons, but the damn ads are still there.

I'm guessing that the iPad (or another device very similar) is going to rethink how designers present lengthy runs of text, particularly long-form journalism.

mt
 
Damo01 said:
The answer for that question would be NO.

No Plug -ins? ie you don't plug-ins like flash, quicktime plugin installed?

If you open up safari and click help and click on "installed plugins", this would show a list of plugins installed that your safari is using. Even third parties plug -ins.

I had surf canyon plug in (which it is a third party) installed before i've upgraded to Safari 5 and I when I did upgrade Safari 5.

The surf canyon plug in was causing serious problems with safari 5 because it was crashing every time I launch Safari 5. I had to remove the plug in to fixed Safari 5 from crashing.
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Thanks - I did that - went to the Help menu - then Installed Plug Ins.... guess what that page displays - NOTHING! (and I see it is pulling the data from my drive and not the web)

Hmm, something ain't right I guess - because I just installed my FIRST plug in 30 minutes ago - Flash... any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

EDIT: I was poking around in my Safari prefs and found that "Enable Plug Ins" was unchecked - MAYBE that was my problem... will try to report back.
 
Damo01 said:
plugins are installed in

/Library/Internet Plug-Ins

or in the user's

~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins


Have you looked in there?



Have you tried disabling safari plug-ins from Safari's Preferences? to find out if it is a plugin is causing the crashing, which it may not be. It could be something else. Go to Safari's Preference, click on the security tab and uncheck enable plugins. Once you done that quit Safari and open it. This will disable every plugin that safari is using.

and if the crash has stop crashing, then you would know it a plugin that safari is using, because you have disabled it from safari''s preference. Otherwise it something else on your system causing the crash.
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First I couldn't access Safari's preferences because it would crash before I could do it.

Second I did undo the few plugins but it didn't help.

I got 4.0.5 reinstalled and I'm cool with it~~I'll keep an eye out for the next S5 update and try again then.
 
Many people had "hacks". They're not (supported) plugins in Safari 4, so when you update, it crashes.
 
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