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Update: and it crashes (Windows XP Home) also when adding a bookmark!

Apple what's wrong?

Although not elegant in any way, I could get a work-around for adding bookmarks. Go to the bookmark page and copy www.apple.com to the folders you usually use for bookmarking and paste multiple copies. Now everytime you need to bookmark something, copy the URL and go to the bookmark page, doubleclick on the URL links in the page to edit. Replace the apple link with your copied link. Change the name of the link as you like it. This will help where you are in dire need of bookmarking something and you dont want to use any other brower.:D
 
1. all major windows browser support single window mode, maybe many osx users don't mind pressing some key when clicking a link, but I don't think windows user will buy that.

2. try protopage.com, which is my homepage, in both firefox/opera, the link on the page can be opened in new tab by default, but in safari for windows, there is no way to do it, right click, left click, middle click, click while press any key, just can't do it!

3. Webkit is mature enough on mac, but not on windows, webkit/KHTML is not set out to be cross-platform like gecko, thats why its been so few progress in porting KHTML to windows, and as u can see, many ppl can't get it to render page properly under windows, that kind of instability is "not mature enough" IMHO.

I just tried your home page in Firefox, Mac running 10.4.9 and there is no auto tab default action happening.
Maybe I missed something.
 
oh, please, so how about add some word at the end of that sentence:

secure from day one-(note: after the final release, we don't mean secure from day one of this beta)

LOL

and

Are you saying final release of safari for windows will have NO security holes in the future?

why?

To be fair, from a software developer standpoint "Day 1" would mean the date of the final release. Although I can see how this would be confusing. They probably shouldn't have put it on the same page as the beta download.
 
I'll be happy - I'm going to download this first thing tomorrow at work. I have XP at work (Mac at home) and it never crashes - everything is fine.

Except....

The preferences file. I thought it may have been a bug but it's a major issue that I've not seen anywhere else so it must be my set up at work. Every time I relaunch Safari, I lose MOST but not ALL of my settings - i.e. window position and size, bookmarks, etc - it looks like Safari is overwriting them with the defaults each time - but the strange this is that my history and form fill-in are remembered. I've checked the permissions and they are all on read/write! :confused:

Maybe someone can help.. I don't have administrator privledges but I can run programs on that (which I had to do to install the install package) but everything is set up to read and write, even when I run on Admin mode?

It's really annoying so hopefully this update will fix it. Otherwise, if anyone could help...
 
I just tried your home page in Firefox, Mac running 10.4.9 and there is no auto tab default action happening.
Maybe I missed something.

hehe, i have mac os 10.4.9 too, please try windows safari and reply back. :D

CUPERTINO, Calif., June 14, 2007 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Apple(R)
today announced that more than 1 million copies of Safari(TM) for Windows were
downloaded in the first 48 hours since the free public beta was made available
on Monday.
I saw these sort of useless PR alot, like Opera claim 1m download in 1 day when it released Opera 9, and firefox claims 2 million i one day after firefox2's release. Total crap.

I bet more than 85% safari downloads end up in trash bin
 
LOL!

CUPERTINO, Calif., June 14, 2007 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Apple(R)
today announced that more than 1 million copies of Safari(TM) for Windows were
downloaded in the first 48 hours since the free public beta was made available
on Monday.

Wow, 1 million disappointed users then. Some people here don't realize how bad the browser is for non-English users. It's not about the occasional crashes that you may or may not be able to work around. It's about empty pages. Safari does not show any bold or italic fonts on any non-English Windows and is therefore useless as a web browser outside English-speaking countries.
 
Blurry Text

Why does text displayed in Safari for Windows look so darn blurry it's just painful! I tried setting anti-aliasing to all 3 levels, same problem.

Firefox, IE text looks great. What's up?
 
well, the update did not fix the problems i have with safari on xp...

my university account can't be viewed, i just see a blue line and myspace does not work, well, it does but not correctly
 
Why does text displayed in Safari for Windows look so darn blurry it's just painful! I tried setting anti-aliasing to all 3 levels, same problem.

Firefox, IE text looks great. What's up?

Ha, welcome to Appleland. There is no ClearType. Apple uses a similar technology but with a different philosophy behind it. MS tries to improve readability with ClearType where Apple tries to render fonts as they would appear on paper. I think this could get Apple in some trouble, because their font rendering looks really bad if you can compare it on the same monitor. On a Mac it doesn't feel that bad, because all is a little bit blurry.
 
Wow, 1 million disappointed users then. Some people here don't realize how bad the browser is for non-English users. It's not about the occasional crashes that you may or may not be able to work around. It's about empty pages. Safari does not show any bold or italic fonts on any non-English Windows and is therefore useless as a web browser outside English-speaking countries.

thank you...
 
Wow, 1 million disappointed users then. Some people here don't realize how bad the browser is for non-English users. It's not about the occasional crashes that you may or may not be able to work around. It's about empty pages. Safari does not show any bold or italic fonts on any non-English Windows and is therefore useless as a web browser outside English-speaking countries.
It seems that it is not only language related. If there are more than 800 fonts installed, Safari didn't find the right fonts (Verdana for example). How bad is that?
Link: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=4708956#4708956
 
It seems that it is not only language related. If there are more than 800 fonts installed, Safari didn't find the right fonts (Verdana for example). How bad is that?
Link: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=4708956#4708956

Yeah, that seems to be a similar problem for the interface fonts. I think I've read somewhere that Safari can't handle it if there are multiple copies of its fonts (for example Lucida). I was referring to the (invisible) fonts inside rendered web content though.

I'm confident that Apple will be able to fix those major bugs in 3-12 months. But this is already a PR disaster which will haunt the company for years. And the problem I mentioned shows (again) that Apple treats international customers as 2nd class customers, something which seems to be deeply ingrained into company culture. Did they even spend a single day on testing for international users?
 
Yeah, that seems to be a similar problem for the interface fonts. I think I've read somewhere that Safari can't handle it if there are multiple copies of its fonts (for example Lucida). I was referring to the (invisible) fonts inside rendered web content though.

I'm confident that Apple will be able to fix those major bugs in 3-12 months. But this is already a PR disaster which will haunt the company for years. And the problem I mentioned shows (again) that Apple treats international customers as 2nd class customers, something which seems to be deeply ingrained into company culture. Did they even spend a single day on testing for international users?

I don't think so. But speaking of which, can anybody explain why products appear later on the european market?
 
2. try protopage.com, which is my homepage, in both firefox/opera, the link on the page can be opened in new tab by default, but in safari for windows, there is no way to do it, right click, left click, middle click, click while press any key, just can't do it!
Probably because they are not using standards for their links. In FireFox, I get a different cursor and a different context-menu for the text of the box headline links than I do for the underline (which doesn't appear until I hover over where the underline should be). Kinda flaky, really.
 
I saw these sort of useless PR alot, like Opera claim 1m download in 1 day when it released Opera 9, and firefox claims 2 million i one day after firefox2's release. Total crap.

I bet more than 85% safari downloads end up in trash bin

How does it matter what users do with their copies of Safari, the same thing could happen with Firefox, or Camino, or IE. It's just a record for them.

I'd like to see .Mac support included in the final version so .Mac users bookmarks are transferred over and synced. That'd be a cool little feature.
 
No I'm not. No association with Apple at all. Just worked in the IT industry for many years.

That's an interesting question nonetheless. Is it a flash site?

i expected more about Apple's safari after seeing the keynote, sorry about the reply.

Safari isn't working as expected since the first day (and no luck with the first update) on non-english win xp systems or systems with more than 400(?) fonts...
doing the hacks to safari fonts.plist file, you can get the menus and some rendering of text working, but some text remains hidden, certain webpages or activating functions like bookmarking or bug reporting you get a sorry-for-inconvenience-box.

like someone as said, apple should moderate it's own claims about safari until the final release of safari.
hug
 
LOL!

CUPERTINO, Calif., June 14, 2007 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Apple(R)
today announced that more than 1 million copies of Safari(TM) for Windows were
downloaded in the first 48 hours since the free public beta was made available
on Monday.

This is really bad for Apple. That's a million people of which it appears a significant percentage will have major problems with the browser.

Apple should really have made this release more low key, doing a proper, contained, beta test with a large number of different PCs and configurations. Clearly they didn't, otherwise the problems with non-SSE CPUs and machines with large numbers of fonts would have shown up well before they decided to release this thing.
 
It's not a language issue though..... I have an English XP at work, and there it crashes too. So it works only in the US.
How can Safari know where it was installed? And what different made it when using bookmarks? I do not even need to go online to kill Safari with just one click (can choose from some buttons :p )
 
I'm confident that Apple will be able to fix those major bugs in 3-12 months. But this is already a PR disaster which will haunt the company for years. And the problem I mentioned shows (again) that Apple treats international customers as 2nd class customers, something which seems to be deeply ingrained into company culture. Did they even spend a single day on testing for international users?
Did they even spend a week to test Safari beta? I'm serious. To me, it looks like somone at Apple lies to Jobs by saying that they could go beta. For me the biggest problem aren't the bugs but the arrogant way Apple says they are the best. Nope.
 
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