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I just ran my pointer over the Apple menu, and a sub-menu (or whatever the hell it's called) popped up telling me that I could pre-order Leopard 10.5 on Amazon!!!

I do not use exclamation marks lightly...

I haven't been able to repeat the outrage, BUT WHAT IS THIS TYRANNY?
 
Yes, they missed to click on the "create bookmark" button. Sorry, but the IE7 NEVER crashed during the beta test on the beta 2 version of Vista. And IE is a lot more complex than Safari.

I wouldn't say IE7 is more complex than Safari. Apple seems to have ported some actual OS X libraries to Windows (CoreFoundation, and a couple others, at least). This is quite a bit of work, and there is therefore quite a lot of situations where problems could come up.

And, though I am not certain, I think I did try the add bookmark button on the Windows version and it worked fine for me.
 
They do however, have a real opportunity to help forward some web standards here. It would be nice if Apple produced the most compliant browser on the planet. That might give them a bragging point that would be hard to argue with. If you want to make sure your website passes muster standard's wise, you could simply hit it with Safari and you'd know. That I could find useful.

As defined and measured by what benchmark(s)? As I recall, Safari was the first browser to successfully pass the Acid2 test (way back in October '05 no less!). But maybe you had other standards beside HTML and CSS in mind (DOM, ECMASCript, etc.)?
 
As defined and measured by what benchmark(s)? As I recall, Safari was the first browser to successfully pass the Acid2 test (way back in October '05 no less!). But maybe you had other standards beside HTML and CSS in mind (DOM, ECMASCript, etc.)?

well, last one to enable rich text editor. lol compare to the advantages(rendering speed,), there are more disadvantages (resource hog, lousy tab browsing, little extension, non Windows UI compatibility, application speed, stability) in safari.

I wouldn't say IE7 is more complex than Safari.

My point: apple should not do that. make it native, would be much less fragile than it is now, consider KHTML is supposed to be a lightweight engine, but look at this now, its 170% the size of firefox!
 
Yes, because no-one is using latin text outside of USA... :rolleyes:

Well, MacRumors website doesn't display any text for me... (Windows 2003 Server x64 Edition). Strangely enough, all Apple websites come up absolutely fine, and rendering seems to be much much faster than Internet Explorer. Everything except the text display seems to work, even the new Find command - looks hilarious, lots of red blobs on an otherwise empty page :D
 
As defined and measured by what benchmark(s)? As I recall, Safari was the first browser to successfully pass the Acid2 test (way back in October '05 no less!). But maybe you had other standards beside HTML and CSS in mind (DOM, ECMASCript, etc.)?

I was unaware that they were first to pass Acid2, but I knew that they had. But I was really referring to some emerging standards for Web 2.0 (or whatever they are calling it these days). ECMAScript (Javascript, whatever) and DOM validation are a couple of these, but there are (and will be) others. Anything AJAX or Web-services related, I suppose.

I wasn't trying to limit them to some predetermined set - what I was suggesting is that Apple could put some effort into POSITIONING the browser as the most standards compliant out there.
 
For the people outside the USA: it was known already a few hours after the first release that Safari on XP versions other than the US version crashes every time when you try to add, import or watch bookmarks, and that it doesn't render bold, italic and non-latin text. So that makes the program pretty useless outside the US, you cannot even really test it.

Very interesting! Thx. That explains why it doesn't work for me (german Vista edition). Why did Apple not post this on the download page? Or why didn't they tested it on non-english Windows versions? Would have taken about 5 minutes. Or what about a simple dialog box: "Your language is not supported"...

I think the very first IE7 beta was english-only too, but MS said that.
 
Why did Apple not post this on the download page? Or why didn't they tested it on non-english Windows versions? Would have taken about 5 minutes. Or what about a simple dialog box: "Your language is not supported"...

I think the very first IE7 beta was english-only too, but MS said that.
because apple wants to count your download and declare xxxmillion download in 48 Hours! :D
 
Very interesting! Thx. That explains why it doesn't work for me (german Vista edition). Why did Apple not post this on the download page? Or why didn't they tested it on non-english Windows versions? Would have taken about 5 minutes. Or what about a simple dialog box: "Your language is not supported"...

I think the very first IE7 beta was english-only too, but MS said that.

It's not a language issue though..... I have an English XP at work, and there it crashes too. So it works only in the US.
 
Still no text on XP SP2....

ok...i've updated and i still am getting no text whatsoever.

this is terribly frustrating. i meet the three windows requirements. i'm not quite sure if it has something to do with the firewall here at work, or some other little piece of software that the IT department has running on my machine so they can see what i do all day...but i get absolutely nothing on the page except for a few images.

there's no menu text, no text on the page, nothing. and, like others, i can't report my bugs because it crashes.

however, on my MBP...i'm doing just fine. :rolleyes:
 
I was unaware that they were first to pass Acid2, but I knew that they had. But I was really referring to some emerging standards for Web 2.0 (or whatever they are calling it these days). ECMAScript (Javascript, whatever) and DOM validation are a couple of these, but there are (and will be) others. Anything AJAX or Web-services related, I suppose..


It's probably old news for most 'round here, but this guy is doing a nice job summarizing "the level of support for web standards and maturing technologies in popular web browsers." Looks like he could use some help updating his tables for Safari, however: http://www.webdevout.net/browser-support
 
(safari Version (3.0.1) For "windows")

WHY COULDN'T "APPLE INC." DO A "SAFARI" VERSION (3.0.1) UPDATE FOR "MAC"? IT NEEDS IT WORSE THAN "WINDOWS" DOES. MINE IS TOTALLY DEAD. "APPLE INC." WE NEED YOU DO AN "SAFARI UPDATE" SOON AND QUICK PLEASE.:mad: :mad: :mad:
 
WHY COULDN'T "APPLE INC." DO A "SAFARI" VERSION (3.0.1) UPDATE FOR "MAC"? IT NEEDS IT WORSE THAN "WINDOWS" DOES. MINE IS TOTALLY DEAD. "APPLE INC." WE NEED YOU DO AN "SAFARI UPDATE" SOON AND QUICK PLEASE.:mad: :mad: :mad:
Please lay off the caps lock key. It may make the letters big, but it doesn't make them clever.

I thank you.
 
WHY COULDN'T "APPLE INC." DO A "SAFARI" VERSION (3.0.1) UPDATE FOR "MAC"? IT NEEDS IT WORSE THAN "WINDOWS" DOES. MINE IS TOTALLY DEAD. "APPLE INC." WE NEED YOU DO AN "SAFARI UPDATE" SOON AND QUICK PLEASE.:mad: :mad: :mad:

Calm down please ... other people might act up like those smilies of yours
 
OK, here is a screen of my error message... for some reason I can't copy and paste the actual error.

I do see that it says my System is Windows NT 5.1. I am running XP Home Edition. I don't know if it matters much, but iTunes works fine.

What processor do you have? This error is saying that Safari tried to execute an instruction code that your processor does not support.

For that matter for all of the people that are experiencing lots of crashes, what kind of processor are you using? I'm going out on a limb but I imagine you are all using AMD processors. All of the internal computers and Apple are (I imagine) intel based machines which would explain why they haven't found these problems prior to now.
 
WHY COULDN'T "APPLE INC." DO A "SAFARI" VERSION (3.0.1) UPDATE FOR "MAC"? IT NEEDS IT WORSE THAN "WINDOWS" DOES. MINE IS TOTALLY DEAD. "APPLE INC." WE NEED YOU DO AN "SAFARI UPDATE" SOON AND QUICK PLEASE.:mad: :mad: :mad:

because all major window-centric (or non- mac-centric) websites criticized windows version of safari and bugs were found.

and mac-centric websites are are cheerleaders so far.
 
Safari 3.01 for Windows STILL crashes every time it attempts to authenticate to our corporate proxy.

C'mon Apple. You're making yourselves look bad.
 
I still can't figure out why anybody would want to run an Apple app, on a Mac, in a Windows emulator. Is it just morbid curiousity?

In addition to the reasons others have given, it's also the only way possible to run it under Jaguar or Panther.
 
good update, by the time safari 3 is done, it will be a powerhouse browser. making it available on windows will only help them develope the software faster
 
because apple wants to count your download and declare xxxmillion download in 48 Hours! :D

LOL!

CUPERTINO, Calif., June 14, 2007 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Apple(R)
today announced that more than 1 million copies of Safari(TM) for Windows were
downloaded in the first 48 hours since the free public beta was made available
on Monday.
 
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