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It would be outrageous if they allowed windows to have safari because it would make apple look bad and no one would buy them eventually because you would get all the mac software for windows!


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I don't see the point. FireFox is taking off in the Windows world. What I would like to see for Windows is that rumored iWork package. That would be nice to PC users who don't want the high price of office or the clunky nature of OpenOffice.org
 
dlisle20 said:
It would be outrageous if they allowed windows to have safari because it would make apple look bad and no one would buy them eventually because you would get all the mac software for windows!

I see what your saying and I felt the same way when I heard about iTunes for Windows but if Apple were to upstage MS on its own platform it may give Apple an advantage.
 
well to counter the agurment saying it would not help apple so there no point.
It would help apple by making sarfari a real browser in the eyes of the web devepore world in more making sure it works on it. As it currently stands Sarfari does not even make the radar. For staticits it is still under .5%. It would help make it real player bedause right now the 3 plays are IE, Moz/Firefox/ and Oprea and then that followed by netscape.

To the people who think it that windows should not have a great program made by apple get off you soup box and get that stick out of your rear. You are more of a problem for apple than you think because I know a lot of people who hate apple due to the elitest atitude far to many of hte users have.

It if over all a worth the money to do it no really and it woudl take some deal cutting with like HP getting it pre installed and make it the deafult browser to help get it kick off in the windows world and then it would have some stiff compition from Firefox but over all it could be a good idea
 
there's one already

... and it's called FireFox.

Ignoring the underlaying technologies (khtml and what not), it is almost like Safari for Windows.
You have the Google search on the top right, tabs. It's the browser of choice when forced to use a PC.
 
Timelessblur said:
well to counter the agurment saying it would not help apple so there no point.
It would help apple by making sarfari a real browser in the eyes of the web devepore world in more making sure it works on it. As it currently stands Sarfari does not even make the radar. For staticits it is still under .5%. It would help make it real player bedause right now the 3 plays are IE, Moz/Firefox/ and Oprea and then that followed by netscape.

To the people who think it that windows should not have a great program made by apple get off you soup box and get that stick out of your rear. You are more of a problem for apple than you think because I know a lot of people who hate apple due to the elitest atitude far to many of hte users have.

It if over all a worth the money to do it no really and it woudl take some deal cutting with like HP getting it pre installed and make it the deafult browser to help get it kick off in the windows world and then it would have some stiff compition from Firefox but over all it could be a good idea

.... huh ??? :confused:
 
JJTiger1 said:
Timelessblur said:
well to counter the agurment saying it would not help apple so there no point.
It would help apple by making sarfari a real browser in the eyes of the web devepore world in more making sure it works on it. As it currently stands Sarfari does not even make the radar. For staticits it is still under .5%. It would help make it real player bedause right now the 3 plays are IE, Moz/Firefox/ and Oprea and then that followed by netscape.

To the people who think it that windows should not have a great program made by apple get off you soup box and get that stick out of your rear. You are more of a problem for apple than you think because I know a lot of people who hate apple due to the elitest atitude far to many of hte users have.

It if over all a worth the money to do it no really and it woudl take some deal cutting with like HP getting it pre installed and make it the deafult browser to help get it kick off in the windows world and then it would have some stiff compition from Firefox but over all it could be a good idea
.... huh ??? :confused:
Allow me, JJTiger1...

(rephrasing Timelessblur's post...)

Well, to counter the argument saying it would not help Apple, so there's no point in porting Safari to Windows doesn't stand up to reality.
It would help Apple by making Safari a real browser in the eyes of the web developer world in making sure sites work on it. As it currently stands Safari does not even make the radar. Its market share is still under .5%. Porting Safari would help make it a "real player" because, right now, the big 3 players are IE, Mozilla/Firefox and Opera, and then after that Netscape.

To the people who think that Windows should not have a great program made by Apple: get off your soap box and get that stick out of your rear. You are more of a problem for Apple than you think because I know a lot of people who hate Apple due to the elitist attitude far too many of their users have.

It is, in the long run, worth the money to do it - no really - and it would take some deal cutting with companies like HP getting it pre-installed and making it the default browser to help kick it off in the Windows world. Then, it would have some stiff competition from Firefox - overall, it could be a good idea.
 
why...

Freg3000 said:
Wow, this is a little out there. I doubt Apple would ever really do this.....I mean, why would a PC user ever use Safari over IE 6?


Why because IE is the worst program. It very open, begging to reel u in some viruses, and alll sort of crap. Whoo
 
testnull said:
Believe it or not, this makes technical sense. Why? iTunes 4 uses the WebCore component for its HTML rendering!

I'm pretty sure I read in David Hyatt's blog that iTunes does NOT use WebCore. (Hyatt is the lead developer for Safari.)
 
DickArmAndHarT said:
Why because IE is the worst program. It very open, begging to reel u in some viruses, and alll sort of crap. Whoo

Agree

IE is one of the biggest spreades of viruses and has had a lot of security problems, and there will allways be crackers that will use IE not safari to spread viruses

Safari is a lot better :D
 
SAFARI IS OURS!!

anything ported to windows from mac is going to lose speed no matter how well they do it, its just the structure of the windows os (SUX). take itunes for instance, it works wonders on mac, but give it to pc users and it crashes just like every other app. i hope that apple keeps safari as an apple only.

the mac revolution is coming.....windoze beware......
 
Le Big Mac said:
And a pop-up stopper you don't have to pay for. And that works. (Sorry panicware)

Microsoft must be reluctant to do that because advertisers would scream a monopolist is excluding them.
If you knew anything about Windows you would know that theres alot of free browsers available for Windows with popup blockers and tabs.
Tabs and popup blockers was available on Windows long before Safari ever reached beta 0.0.0.0.1!

Firefox is alot better on windows than Safari is on Mac so i doubt would ever use Safari if there was a windowsversion for it.
 
TheMasin9 said:
anything ported to windows from mac is going to lose speed no matter how well they do it, its just the structure of the windows os (SUX). take itunes for instance, it works wonders on mac, but give it to pc users and it crashes just like every other app. i hope that apple keeps safari as an apple only.

the mac revolution is coming.....windoze beware......
haha, thats stupid!
All my mates with Windows including myself use iTunes with Windows an it works great! Never crashed!
 
F/reW/re said:
TheMasin9 said:
anything ported to windows from mac is going to lose speed no matter how well they do it, its just the structure of the windows os (SUX). take itunes for instance, it works wonders on mac, but give it to pc users and it crashes just like every other app. i hope that apple keeps safari as an apple only.

the mac revolution is coming.....windoze beware......
haha, thats stupid!
All my mates with Windows including myself use iTunes with Windows an it works great! Never crashed!

yeah, but they have a point there: IF Safari got ported over to windows, you're still relying on all the OS underpinnings to make it secure, correct? safari is a pretty stable, fairly safe browser due in a large part to OSX's UNIX core, correct?

i'm FAR from a programmer, but i don't see Safari going to M$ b/c a lot of the vulnerabilities that have been shredding IE for the past couple years have got to come from it's interaction btw windows & IE, not just crappy IE code. can someone w/ more knowledge on this confirm or correct this?

also, what would be the win for Apple to do this? to say that windows users are using another piece of Apple software? it's not driving them to a music store, or convincing anyone to Switch ("wow, this is a great piece of free software, maybe i should plunk down a couple thousand on a new Apple")

just don't see it happening...
 
Timelessblur said:
well to counter the agurment saying it would not help apple so there no point.
It would help apple by making sarfari a real browser in the eyes of the web devepore world in more making sure it works on it. As it currently stands Sarfari does not even make the radar. For staticits it is still under .5%. It would help make it real player bedause right now the 3 plays are IE, Moz/Firefox/ and Oprea and then that followed by netscape.

To the people who think it that windows should not have a great program made by apple get off you soup box and get that stick out of your rear. You are more of a problem for apple than you think because I know a lot of people who hate apple due to the elitest atitude far to many of hte users have.

It if over all a worth the money to do it no really and it woudl take some deal cutting with like HP getting it pre installed and make it the deafult browser to help get it kick off in the windows world and then it would have some stiff compition from Firefox but over all it could be a good idea


At least Safari makes good use of the system wide spell check . . . . sigh, too bad there is no system grammer check . . . .
 
dvdh said:
At least Safari makes good use of the system wide spell check . . . . sigh, too bad there is no system grammer check . . . .
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yeah wouldnt used and I wrote that when I barily was fully awake and it was not writen on my normal keyboard so it has more errors than normal in it. Besides you can kiss my dylixiaci rear end about you and you complaints.

It was there to say there to point out that there is a value in apple porting it windows in the fact that it would make the browser a more rear browser in the eyes of web designers. Currently Safari does not even make the raider in browsers it useage % is to low to even make it. It goes IE, Moz/Firefox, Oprea or netscape. those pretty much take up most of it leaving less than 1% for all others and things below 1% just are not bother to be check.

Safari is hurt by at most it can only run on about 3% of computers and then from there IE eats up a fair size chunk, the Moz browsers eat up another chunk, Oprea eats up some more, Netscape eats up some more. Safari is at best used on 80% of the macs out there chances are it lowers a lot lower.
 
Safari windows version

Maybe it's because just like in the real world, 95% of all browser users are windows based including website designers. Wouldn't you rather they got to test their sites on Safari? There is a substantial difference in how the major browsers IE, Netscape, Opera, Firefox, & Safari render pages.
 
TheMasin9 said:
...take itunes for instance, it works wonders on mac, but give it to pc users and it crashes just like every other app...QUOTE]

Have you actually used iTunes on Windows??? Clearly not!!

Personally I use it everyday, probably everytime I power up the Windows box iTunes is one of the first things I start to use... it has never crashed!! Many things around it do, but that's Windows.
 
~loserman~ said:
Why would a Windows user want to use such a piece of junk as Safari.
I cat even stand Safari on my MAC
I wouldn't call it a "piece of junk".

There are a lot of things it does really well, and it's very, VERY fast.

I only wish Apple would figure out a way to keep it from beachballing on SSL pages. It shouldn't take 30 seconds to log in to my bank account on a dual-processor PowerMac G5 with two gigs of RAM.

But compared to FireFox (I'm sorry, but the Mac port is dog slow) and Camino (which seems to be unloved by its developers), there's not a whole lot around that's worth using. Opera flat out sucks, and OmniWeb, while nice, isn't worth the price tag.
 
zom97 said:
Maybe it's because just like in the real world, 95% of all browser users are windows based including website designers. Wouldn't you rather they got to test their sites on Safari? There is a substantial difference in how the major browsers IE, Netscape, Opera, Firefox, & Safari render pages.

There is more to it than that. Many web sites send different code to your web browser depending on the user agent the web server reads. If you want to see an example of this... enable debug mode on safari and set the agent to a different browser.
Many times a web server... especially IIS will give bunk code to any browser that doesnt register itself as IE.
 
slooksterPSV said:
I'd love to have Safari for Windoze.
As Apple gets .Mac going more fully, the arguments for Safari etc on Windows increases.

I'd use Safari on Windows to get my bookmarks synced.
I'd use iCal on Windows to keep a common calendar.
I'd buy iSight if I could chat to my parents on Windows.
(actually... I haven't looked recently, does video conferencing work with AOL now?)
 
respect...

Macrumors said:
can someone post a human translation of the article?

It's a shame to see that somebody can actually say things like that. Thinking that a language is supperior to another is called pure racism. And by the way sir, 80% of english words come from french roots.


Who actually let you become administrator of this site. You may know html but you sure dont know respect.
 
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