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Safari in macOS Sierra Deactivates Flash and Other Plug-ins By Default
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MLB TV and other sports content sites still use FLASH. Until they change, I can't get rid of it.
What's even sadder is that games still skip even if you meet the internet requirements.
When will they learn? :-(
Silverlight is on the don't use list. Netflix uses Silverlight. Does that mean that Apple wants me to use Apple TV??—No effing way!!
Like it or not, this is a Windoz World, and there ain't nothing Apple can do to change it. All they can do is make OSX users miserable. The other day I had a hard time installing Sonic Pi. an open source Midi Coding program http://sonic-pi.net because it isn't available from the Apple Store. Meh
Like it or not, this is a Windoz World, and there ain't nothing Apple can do to change it. All they can do is make OSX users miserable. The other day I had a hard time installing Sonic Pi. an open source Midi Coding program http://sonic-pi.net because it isn't available from the Apple Store. Meh
Not sure if people have actually read the article and realize that this is all "disabled by default", not "removed entirely"?
They...do. HTML5. Two years ago? Something like that. Even on Windows you don't need Silverlight. (Hasn't Microsoft stopped development on it?)
Well, no, Apple did change it. Also Google. You may have noticed that Apple sells large numbers of iOS devices, which have never used Flash etc.
--Eric
They...do. HTML5. Two years ago? Something like that. Even on Windows you don't need Silverlight. (Hasn't Microsoft stopped development on it?)
Well, no, Apple did change it. Also Google. You may have noticed that Apple sells large numbers of iOS devices, which have never used Flash etc.
--Eric
I believe this is a matter of opinion.. flash died off years ago, in my opinion.
Yes I read the article, but I'm NOT interested in jumping through hoops to view Netflix!!
And Slverlight is STILL REQUIRED for Netflix. And NO Microsoft is still releasing NEW versions. I'm running Version 5.1 (5.1.41212.0) Apple says that the latest version is need to prevent security threats.
Yes Flash is evil. Yes Microsoft is evil. Sorry, but I still need Silverlight to view Netflix.
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A lot of European sites still use Flash.
I'd rather prefer it rest torturously in the fiery depths of hell from whence it came.
O rly. "You can use our HTML5 player or Silverlight to watch Netflix movies and TV shows on PCs running Windows XP or later, and Intel-based Macs running OS X Tiger (v10.4.11) or later."
Clicking (once) on a button that says "use every time" qualifies as "jumping through hoops"?
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Yeah down with stupid Flash, sure I'm with it.
The reality is many video sites/services I use, still require Flash, so all you are really doing Apple is guaranteeing I won't be using your browser (Safari).
The reality is many video sites/services I use, still require Flash, so all you are really doing Apple is guaranteeing I won't be using your browser (Safari).
Exactly, you cannot subscribe to MLB TV for Major League Baseball games in the USA without FLASH. I assume the NFL games are the same. These are major PAY streaming sites that require FLASH. Apple will have to change their minds first. Now MLB TV is available on the iPhone, so they must have an alternative to use, but they're not using it on PCs or Macs currently.
Maybe read the article before commenting. Also, it's not only Safari. 'As a result, Flash will still come bundled with Chrome, but "its presence will not be advertised by default." Where the Flash Player is the only option for viewing content on a site, users will need to actively switch it on for individual sites.' How is that different from what Apple's doing?
--Eric
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I hear you. Working on a multiplayer HTML5 game here using the WebRTC datachannel for peer-to-peer connections. Here is some wishful thinking that it might be added later this year: https://thenewdialtone.com/webrtc-in-safari/
I can understand the hate for Flash due to its overuse as a media player, which never should have happened in the first place, but it's still great the things it was originally designed for, i.e- vector animations and games. It's a shame that over-ambition and a horrific security record have basically erased the original intent of Flash.
Still, isn't this feature already present in Safari? Is it not just becoming the default that's different in Sierra? I've been using ClickToPlugin for so long I haven't really kept up with Safari's built in capabilities.
Still, isn't this feature already present in Safari? Is it not just becoming the default that's different in Sierra? I've been using ClickToPlugin for so long I haven't really kept up with Safari's built in capabilities.
Forget that. QuickTime > HTML5 for playing videos. Do you want to use 5% CPU or 100% CPU? I don't know whether it's the standard, the browser implementation, or the site implementation, but HTML5 players always suck, sometimes even worse than Flash.
I use Click2Plugin to force YouTube videos to play with QuickTime. So much nicer.
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I use Click2Plugin to force YouTube videos to play with QuickTime. So much nicer.
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IDK. They announced it like 5 times, and they definitely didn't do it after the first time. Anyway, Amazon Instant Video does require Silverlight. I only have that turd enabled in Firefox.
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Yep, it's always been great for games. I never understood why it was used for video. That was a total hack.
Why? Did you see this in the OP?
One of the things I dislike about the current Safari is how it handles Flash and plugins in general. Giving more readily available, user control is a positive development, no?
Flash is bad and provides security risks, but Safari has to find ways to stop auto playing videos. Just the other day I visited a site and below where I was reading a video stated playing, blasting enough to wake my toddler. I was so angry I almost threw my MBP against the wall.
It doesn't appear that Java is allowed on Sierra at all. Apps that depend on Java like Adobe's Creative suite prior to Adobe Cloud won't work without Java.
I have an Adobe Cloud account but I only get Lightroom and Photoshop. The rest of the suite, I use my purchased Adobe CS3. It doesn't work in Sierra. Anybody found any solutions to this?
I have an Adobe Cloud account but I only get Lightroom and Photoshop. The rest of the suite, I use my purchased Adobe CS3. It doesn't work in Sierra. Anybody found any solutions to this?
Easy for you to say. Spending thousands of dollars on software that relies on Java means one keeps using it for as long as possible.