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Tabs? What's a tab?

I still command-click to open new windows. Just like I did in Netscape 1.0N.

Also have been using Safari since Dave Hyatt started the Surfin' Safari blog. Was a huge leap forward from OmniWeb.

Still using Safari. Still love it. Not sure what the whining is about - it's fast, it works, it's stable.
It’s works sometimes… and it’s stable when it wants too… like iCloud going out every few weeks
 
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I love safari, except for that when you open Macrumors with Safari, it often causes the devices to overheat and have battery drain.
 
15 pages huh.
Anyway, I don’t want to repeat myself. Here is what I want to say.
 
15 pages huh.
Anyway, I don’t want to repeat myself. Here is what I want to say.
Good points, but I think these are webkit developers that want to know about the problem with rendering. I don’t see too many posts, even in this thread, specifically about how webkit is lacking.
 
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Good points, but I think these are webkit developers that want to know about the problem with rendering. I don’t see too many posts, even in this thread, specifically about how webkit is lacking.
WebKit is mostly under the hood where problems resides on other area, UI, experience, interaction etc. That’s why.
 
Safari on Mac is the slowest browser to me in this day. Even though I’m quite an Apple fanboy I can’t bring myself to use it as much as Chrome (on Mac).
 
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Please clear cookies from within safari. Having to close tabs and safari itself then go to settings to safari then scroll to clear history and web data is counter intuitive and certainly not privacy minded. Clear all the filth at once from within the browser.
 
Because you live in the Apple bubble where Apple does no wrong, I like Apple a lot but I can ca them out of safari and iCloud needing to revamped after with the outages that keeping happening on iCloud, because it just works, right ?
So the Amazon and Google outages that happen just as often I’m sure aren’t important, Right?

I wonder why we don’t here the Google and Amazon fan sites on fire about the major service outage they experienced over the last year alone.

Its odd, because some of those outages were extended and took out other major services
 
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Constant freezing or crashing when using Gmail or Google Drive (Sheets, Slides etc). Never had these issues prior to Monterey.
 
WebKit is mostly under the hood where problems resides on other area, UI, experience, interaction etc. That’s why.
I think that’s the point the webkit developer is making. Safari’s problem doesn’t reside in webkit, it’s in the application layer that the webkit developers don’t have a lot of control over.
 
Honestly, I hadn't heard from anyone else that Safari has been getting worse (there have always been haters, but they've been singing the same tune for ages).

That said, with the last update, Google Maps stopped working for me on Safari. None of the buttons show up to choose transportation method, departure time, etc. Weird.
 
If a webpage doesn‘t work with a browser, it is always Safari.
Also there is no way to save a webpage as an app - and printing output looks horrible
and can‘t be customized due to Apple’s minimalism.

I think Edge is a much better choice - specially like how it allows you to switch between several Microsoft accounts
and allows you to do work - private separation.

They should just open their eyes, use their own tool and compare with competing offers - it isn‘t that difficult to see.
 
Safari is/was my main browser for years. I don't know what they did to the app, but I had to start using Firefox again because so many pages do not work. Content not being loaded, buttons won't respond, pages stay blank.

On the other hand, according to Safaris own privacy report it did a good job on actually protecting privacy.

Give and take?
 
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