Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

Safari Tops 7% Of Browser Market Share, Mac OS X On The Rise

I find that a lot of people can't comprehend the fact that IE is a browser, and simply think of it as "The Internet". They think that switching browser is the same as switching ISPs and will cost them money. If the graph results were just from those even slightly computer literate, I'd imagine Firefox would be in the lead.
 
I can't even believe Opera is not even on that list. I've always said that Opera is a lot like Apple, innovative, but small in popularity. I guess it's more true than I realised. A lot of these features Safari, Firefox and IE enjoy (such as tabbed browsing, mouse gestures in Firefox's case, Password remembrance, saved sessions, et cetera) are enjoyed because of Opera. Screw these wannabe browsers.
 
Sky Blue said:
Some people much prefer Safari? Why shouldn't Apple make their own browser?
Click to expand...

My point was that microsoft did the same thing, and was slammed by many in the apple community for unfair practices. Now apple is doing the same thing. Safari is just a closed software copy of firefox
 
hoolese said:
Firefox is OSS, while safari is of course not and run by apple. Why couldn't apple let firefox be instead of acting all MS and trying to battle them. Its not like Apple is playing fair, either, they are not allowing other browsers on their iPhone. Microsoft was attacked for preloading IE on windows computers, apple wont even allow competition.
Click to expand...

Nokia will be surprised to hear that WebKit is not Open Source.
 
hoolese said:
My point was that microsoft did the same thing, and was slammed by many in the apple community for unfair practices. Now apple is doing the same thing. Safari is just a closed software copy of firefox
Click to expand...
Maybe they were slammed by some. But the actual reason they were sued was for making the web browser completely unremovable by arguably going as far to actually make it one of the core technologies.

I still can't believe they didn't release a new version of IE for 6 years. Or a new version of Windows come to that. XP has held back technology by forcing developers to code for such a obsolete legacy platform.
 
hoolese said:
Firefox is OSS, while safari is of course not and run by apple. Why couldn't apple let firefox be instead of acting all MS and trying to battle them. Its not like Apple is playing fair, either, they are not allowing other browsers on their iPhone. Microsoft was attacked for preloading IE on windows computers, apple wont even allow competition.
Click to expand...

....

Safari and Firefox are not "battling"... they're completely different. Firefox, up until recently (and in my opinion, still today), has not been well maintained on the Mac. It's slow, ugly and really nothing special. Safari is fast, sleek and gets the job done. Firefox has the advantage of plugins and user contribution, and those that prefer it will download it. I personally prefer the simplicity and faster load times/javascript. :)

With regards to the iPhone comment... the only offer so far has been from Opera, which caches EVERYTHING you do on their servers, including secure transactions. No thanks! Opera Mini is a useless pile of junk made for old mobile phones, and that's where it belongs. The anti-competitive nature is debatable, and to be honest I think it's better that way, because it means Apple has to cater for THE WHOLE iPhone community and build a *complete* browser, not just something that has enough features for business people (the ones that will be giving them the easy money). The App Store should've shown you by now that the majority of third party developers are rubbish, and an open store is a stupid idea on an embedded system.

Now to Microsoft! The reason people had such an issue with Windows 98 is because IE became integral to the operating system and could NOT be removed. It had nothing to do with "packaging a browser with the OS". Think about it... how the hell are people going to DOWNLOAD Firefox if OS developers aren't allowed to package a browser?

Edit:

Oh, and about the article.. good news :) I don't care which browser makes it big, as long as IE tumbles down. IE6 is pathetic, IE7 is... mmmm... IE8 should be bearable. Soon web development will no longer be hindered the way it has for the last 10 years. And with Safari and Chrome working to make Javascript amazing, exciting things are just around the corner :D
 
oticon6 said:
With regards to the iPhone comment... the only offer so far has been from Opera, which caches EVERYTHING you do on their servers, including secure transactions. No thanks! Opera Mini is a useless pile of junk made for old mobile phones, and that's where it belongs. The anti-competitive nature is debatable, and to be honest I think it's better that way, because it means Apple has to cater for THE WHOLE iPhone community and build a *complete* browser, not just something that has enough features for business people (the ones that will be giving them the easy money). The App Store should've shown you by now that the majority of third party developers are rubbish, and an open store is a stupid idea on an embedded system.
Click to expand...

Wrong. I forget what page, but in the thread about Opera being in the app store, somebody explained why the whole "Opera has hold of all your secure transactions and info" stuff is false. Plus, you're wrong about Opera Mini. Opera Mini is one of the most stable and enjoyable mobile browsers out there, and is used in the Wii and the DS as well. Opera has long been a little-known player in the Browser field, despite being responsible for a majority of the things people enjoy in other browsers (see above).

Edit: Nick9191's link below has some information about said issue.
 
hoolese said:
Firefox is OSS, while safari is of course not and run by apple. Why couldn't apple let firefox be instead of acting all MS and trying to battle them. Its not like Apple is playing fair, either, they are not allowing other browsers on their iPhone. Microsoft was attacked for preloading IE on windows computers, apple wont even allow competition.
Click to expand...
Apple will allow other browsers on their phone.

If your referring to Opera, the Opera Mini browser was not ready for the iPhone, it was not rejected.

https://www.macrumors.com/2008/11/02/opera-mini-not-rejected/
 
My vote is for 1 Firefox, 2nd Chrome... I do not like the tabbed functionality on Safari (it opens a new browser instead of a tab) I know you can hold the "ctrl" to open in a new tab, but I don't want to... The only nice thing I can say about Safari is it look clean....

Also the last time I used Safari it did not do the suggested search in the upper right goolge search bar..Another dislike...

Firefox is the best because of add ons like adblock+...

Just my thoughts....
 
Interestingly Safari is only part of the use of the WebKit "core" of Safari.

A slew of service-oriented products for AT&T internet offerings are now using a webkit-based app for the Mac support (I should know, I created the custom web browser).

So kudos to Apple's WebKit team for making such a nice platform to build apps on top of, including Safari - even tho Apple managers like to hide specific bits to keep anyone from fully competing with Safari in the Mac browser space using the same engine.
 
Thing is, what constitutes 'market share'?

I downloaded Firefox, used it about four times and I don't think I've even used it now for about six months.

Is it number of downloads or useage? We may never know...
 
bananabar said:
Thing is, what constitutes 'market share'?

I downloaded Firefox, used it about four times and I don't think I've even used it now for about six months.

Is it number of downloads or useage? We may never know...
Click to expand...

It is not going ot be 100% accurate however it is compiled from the actual browsers people use to visit a sample of websites

We use a unique methodology for collecting this data. We collect data from the browsers of site visitors to our exclusive on-demand network of live stats customers. The data is compiled from approximately 160 million visitors per month. The information published is an aggregate of the data from this network of hosted website statistics. The site unique visitor and referral information is summarized on a monthly basis.
Click to expand...
 
bananabar said:
Thing is, what constitutes 'market share'?

I downloaded Firefox, used it about four times and I don't think I've even used it now for about six months.

Is it number of downloads or useage? We may never know...
Click to expand...

These particular stats are based on usage.
 
Could someone PLEASE tell me what the advantage of Firefox is over Safari? On both of my macs, FF runs and loads pages incredibly slower than Safari.
 
This is from the last month from my site.

Internet Explorer 45.17%
Firefox 40.68%
Safari 7.52%
Chrome 3.61%
Opera 2.01%
Mozilla Compatible 0.35%
Mozilla 0.34%
Camino 0.16%
SeaMonkey 0.07%
 
Firefox is currently still better. Hopefully with increased market share more sites will adapt to Safari and hopefully Apple can get it to stop hanging on start ups.
 
I'm not keen on Safari XP at all and got sick of IE too. Now my windows partition is using Firefox which is so hideous and nowhere near the speed of Safari OSX - it's still probably the best browser for IE.

But on OSX's side I'm all for Safari. I don't care about silly plugins, I just want speed.
 
raggedjimmi said:
I'm not keen on Safari XP at all and got sick of IE too. Now my windows partition is using Firefox which is so hideous and nowhere near the speed of Safari OSX - it's still probably the best browser for IE.
Click to expand...

Tried Chrome?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back