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Sales of Revamped Apple TV Pegged at Over 250,000

deconstruct60 said:
You are forgetting the $229 remote. iPod Touch. But still a remote that costs 231% more expensive is an issue about as much as one that is 505% more .
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It comes with an Apple infrared remote. It's the same remote that works with "frontrow" on any infrared iMac or Macbook Pro that sells for $19.00. If you subtract the price of the remote from the $99.00 you're actually getting the :apple:TV for only $80.00. That's a heck of a bargain.
 
inkswamp said:
I have too many DVDs to make something like this worth buying. I could see picking up one of these to replace my current DVD player but beyond that, the functionality it provides is simply not worth $99.
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With DVD players selling as low as $30 in some places, having a DVD player in the device would IMO cheapen it. Further, it would be backwards looking which Apple almost never does; it is usually on the edge pushing design and features into places others are afraid t go. (eg. dropping floppy drives, adopting USB)
 
manu chao said:
Just rip the DVD on your computer and be done with it (it requires some forward planning as the re-encoding will take an hour or two unless you have a quad or even-more-core computer).

The AppleTV is not a catch-all set-top box, it is just a streaming client for video the same way the Airport Express is for audio. The AppleTV is not meant to replace everything you have on top of your TV, it is just there to provide a link between your computer (iPad, iPhone, iPod touch) and by extension the iTunes Store.
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Actually, if it won't play my Beta, VHS and Laserdiscs it's a piece of crap!
 
JRoDDz said:
It comes with an Apple infrared remote.
..... That's a heck of a bargain.
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Bargin wasn't not the issue. Value when entering lots of keyboard data was. The default remote makes entering text a bigger chore. That's what the original comment was in this sub-thread. To get around that, you can use a 'remote' that has a keyboard.

As long as all you want is a "clicker", sure the standard remote works OK.

As for $19 for the remote as a separate price.... pftt.. You can get a universal TV remote for $10 on Amazon.com . It can actually control the TV, not just a box connected to the TV. There is a huge profit margin in that clicker when sold separately.
 
blame the Gov

inkswamp said:
Which is why I won't buy one. I need a DVD player, but I don't need what AppleTV provides. I'm just saying that Apple could have sold more AppleTV units to people like me who would consider replacing their DVD player with one.

Seems like a silly, dogmatic attitude for Apple to have. They need to cater to the customers, not dictate what format is dying and isn't. There are aisles and aisles of DVD for sale in stores that prove Jobs wrong on that. I'm not saying DVDs won't someday go away, but we're likely many years away from that. Why make a product that doesn't fit the reality of the market? Even the iPod and iTunes offered an easy route for CDs to be used. AppleTV offers no such concession.

I don't understand why Apple wouldn't offer 2 models, one without DVD player and one with. Charge me another $30 for it. I'd buy one at $129, no question.
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The simple solution would be to turn all your DVD's into digital media, the unfortunate thing is our government and the hollywood is trying really hard not to let you do that. I wouldn't blame :apple:Tv because if turning your DVD's into a digital copy (through itunes per-say) then you would get one. Its only a matter of time before that does happen. People need to start buying digital versions of this form of media for this to happen. Till then I only half agree with you.

Consider this, if they announce a software update in April right before google TV really takes off that allows content to be streamed to the apple TV or for it to be stored natively on the platform (may or may not require a new hardware) then xBox, Playstation, Direct Tv, Comcast, AT&T u-verse, Boxie, and many other companies would be screwed. Imagine have your friends over and play a two person shooter on the :apple:tv and using your iPhones or iPod's as the controllers. Imagine being able for a short time to pay for a much cheaper subscription based service that allowed you to watch live/recored TV show without ad's or very minimal Ads or the only ads would be iAd banners embed in them. Being able to do somethings a computer can but with out the need to typing anything in with a keyboard just hit the stocks app and bam your apps are there.

Apps will come to this thing but it will take a while before they do. sit back and relax and enjoy the ride/movie
 
It's a neat device. Alas, iTunes have zero shows that I want to watch. Anyway, thanks to the size, I can see people actually taking this with them when traveling.
 
pika2000 said:
It's a neat device. Alas, iTunes have zero shows that I want to watch. Anyway, thanks to the size, I can see people actually taking this with them when traveling.
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I take mine with me to my cabin but I can't get the ad-hoc network to work with it so I have to use a Ethernet cable.

If you happen to know how to get the ad-hoc network working on the Apple TV please let me know. I also have started a thread about this problem I am having.
 
CyberBob859 said:
Anybody have an idea on how many of the older :apple:TV units they sold? Would be interesting to see when they will exceed sales with the newer model.
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If you can believe the analysts (since Apple never released any sales numbers on ATV1), the original Apple TV was selling at a rate equal to a few million units per year. Thus, it's too early to know whether the ATV2 is going to outsell the original since sales on the ATV2 could go up or down from this point forward. If Apple sold 250K in 18 days that works out to about 1.25M per quarter which would seem to outsell the original but it may not represent a blow-out over the ATV1.

However, as has been said ad nauseam, if they enable apps on the ATV2 then sales could increase rather dramatically. Considering that Apple sold over 20 million iOS devices last quarter there are already a lot of people who are familiar with apps and who could certainly use their existing iPhone/iPad/iPod touch as a controller for the ATV2.

AirPlay will be a nice addition but they really need to develop an interface that will allow you to use any iOS touch device as the controller for the apps that are running on the ATV2. Kind of like VNC but it would have to be super responsive and they would probably need some type of on-screen feedback as to where your touch/finger is currently located. The problem with the latter (on screen feedback) is that it might require a reversal of the current iOS touch mechanism since you'll only be able to determine your current location on the TV display while you are touching the screen on the controlling iOS device (and any touch in iOS usually invokes some type of action -- something you might not want when you were using touch to simply update your current position within the bounds of the TV's display). This could be a tough user interface issue for which there is currently no satisfactory solution other than for a user to relearn the meaning of touch when controlling an app on the ATV2.
 
So can someone that has one of these answer a quick question about it? Do you already have access to some TV Show "rentals" ? It seems like you shouldn't need the new model just to do a rental instead of a purchase (i.e. I can rent movies on my 1st generation Apple TVs and rent/buy changes on the iTunes store pages, not on the software itself.

But seeing as I see absolutely no TV show rentals, I'm guessing that Apple has artificially limited that "feature" to the new models despite the fact it has NOTHING to do with the software differences between the two models. A rental is a rental. I mean I'm not expecting Netflix to work on my older model, but for goodness sake, preventing the rentals from working is just a ploy to force people to buy a new model. Unfortunately, some of us need component out for older TVs, etc. and the new model is HDMI only so it doesn't do much good in that regard. Plus I see little point in going to a model with no real onboard storage when mine has it considering Netflix (which I don't subscribe to anyway) is the only real feature it currently has that the original doesn't have (other than the apparent artificial lack of TV rentals).

I mean seriously, does Apple think they can just screw older users over constantly and think that there will never be repercussions? Apple is really starting to make me think twice about buying future products from them the way these days they just ditch all support for older models as soon as the new model comes out.
 
Rocketman said:
I think it interesting Steve was wiling to "break out" sales of AppleTV, and find it to be evidence it is still a hobby.

Rocketman
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I think it would be just the opposite.Lackluster sales would just merit an"were pleased with sales so far."
Remember,this is less than a months sales.Nobody expects it to sell like iPods,but it seems to be of to a nice start.

Why the obvious hostility??
 
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And 249,999 of those went to hackers dreaming about the excellent low cost hardware platform in front of them. If this thing can be jail broken fully it will sell like hot cakes.
 
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A perfect misuse of social media.
 
MagnusVonMagnum said:
...But seeing as I see absolutely no TV show rentals, I'm guessing that Apple has artificially limited that "feature" to the new models despite the fact it has NOTHING to do with the software differences between the two models...
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There are a couple of issues here. First, the TV rentals may include content that the ATV1 can't play, such as 25fps/30fps 720p resolution. Second, the rental model for TV shows may require an update to the ATV1 software and Apple may not be willing to "roll" another release of the ATV1 software (at least not yet).
 
Roofy. said:
I wouldn't really call 250,000 of them sold a "hobby". its no ipad or iphone but thats still alot.
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If we assume Apple are maintaining their usual 30% profit margin with the new Apple TV, that works out at $7.5 million in the bank.

That's a lot of money but it's still small beer to Apple when they are raking in $4billion+ profits each quarter.
 
wizard said:
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And 249,999 of those went to hackers dreaming about the excellent low cost hardware platform in front of them. If this thing can be jail broken fully it will sell like hot cakes.
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IMO, the vast majority of potential customers could care less if it is jail broken or not.
 
I gave my parents the original Apple TV to see if they like it, and they love it! Normally they'd talk for about an hour deciding what DVD to watch, now they sit there for an hour watching trailers! And then finally renting one ;-)
So, I'm gonna get myself one and one for them for Christmas.

:) :apple:
 
In most European countries there is barely any visual content available on the Apple store. A matter of a rights spaghetti.
Hence this device isn't interesting for me, I rather use my western digital TV Live box that can access my ripped discs, and in addition it can also handle for example avi files with srt subtitles, or play mkvs, all without the annoyance of conversion.
The big lack of the generic media player boxes like the WD is how they handle your music, they just show a file system. A file system is sufficient to browse my ripped movies, but Front Row is much nicer for music.
 
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