Frankly, my comment is as clear as it could ever be. What remains unclear is the relevance of your comment, something i asked you to clarify after re-reading my post. That said, to re-iterate, i have no problem discussing the things i write. I just dont feel like to discuss things i have not said to begin with. If you cannot respect that, that is your choice - and your prerogative i guess.
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Frankly, my comment is as clear as it could ever be. What remains unclear is the relevance of your comment, something i asked you to clarify after re-reading my post. That said, to re-iterate, i have no problem discussing the things i write. I just dont feel like to discuss things i have not said to begin with. If you cannot respect that, that is your choice - and your prerogative i guess.
It depends on what they are suing for. There are a lot of different ways to design a wireless antenna's, as we saw with the iPhone 4. It's possible they were using a certain design that Samsung created in the iPhone 4 and assumes they are using it in iPhone 5. Or something like that.
In either case, I believe Apple needs to fight battles needed to be fought and leave petty ones alone. This all started because of them.
I hope Apple crush them into oblivion.
It will be karma if the iPad and iPhone are such successes that Samsung retreat from the market totally humilliated
Orientals tend to fall on their sword when they are humilliated let's hope Samsung execs do the same thing
It will be karma if the iPad and iPhone are such successes that Samsung retreat from the market totally humilliated
Orientals tend to fall on their sword when they are humilliated let's hope Samsung execs do the same thing
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I they have a legitimate claim, then they have a legitimate claim.
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They are disrespecting not only Apple by doing this they are also disrespecting the users of Apple and Apple fans, a maker of inferior tat telling consumers they can't have the iPhone 5 when they want it, how dare they.
I can't believe I am reading this.
Samsung have no duty towards you or Apple, their duty is to protect their IP. If Apple infringes on their IP, I would fully expect them to sue the company that I have shares in.
I guess he's just joking
The problem with forums is that it's sometimes difficult to predict or assert whether someone is joking, especially this board. :/
I guess he's just joking
Nope, deadly serious
Apple is the superior product by a country mile, the most famous brand in the world and by far the best so to have a maker of inferior junk trying to throw its weight about is disgraceful, it is like when Ford tried to get the Ferrari F150 banned because some truck had a similar name, Ford are makers of crap cannon fodder that sales reps use whereas Ferrari is the big name in the car world that everyone aspires to, Apple is the Ferrari of technology.
Hope Samsung lose and are bankrupted, they haven't even seen the iPhone 5 yet only Apple execs have so they are defaming and slandering Apple too.
Samsong released that phone asap so they can just sue back..money money money money like that commercial..MONEY!
facepalm.
They are not "the" superior company... They certainly aren't in the UK.
Famous brand in the world? I can think of a lot of others before Apple would come up.
You just vomit out agita.
What goes up must come down.... and that's what'll happen to Apple eventually. You will claim that it'll never happen, I guess.
Samsung will not become bankrupt any time soon, they are larger than Apple in terms of expansion and size.
Apple are the superior company, when did you ever see queues a mile or more long in cities outside stores of people waiting in line for a Samsung product ? maybe in Seoul possibly but nowhere else.
Samsung are successful yes because they mass market crap pile it high sell it cheap tv's at low paid consumers, Apple market at the elite, the wealthy, the high net worth individuals.
A Challenge
Name a truly innovative Samsung product.
Anything: TV, Microwave, vacuum cleaner, container ship. Whatever.
Without resorting to a Google Search, I bet most people can't. And even if you do, you come up with stuff like a DVD player with "slot-in disc loading and a premium volume wheel that controls sound" - IOW, meaningless junk.
Samsung is never going to match Apple's innovation because Korea is culturally, politically, economically, and socially fundamentally different from California. And I don't care how many million dollars they spend on research campuses, or bused-in ice-cream parlors - you simply cannot dictate that a company become innovative. It makes as much sense as "the beatings will continue until morale improves."
That doesn't mean that Samsung doesn't make decent products. But it is rooted in a culture that simply doesn't tolerate the kind of diversity of thought and deed that fosters real innovation.
Name a truly innovative Samsung product.
Anything: TV, Microwave, vacuum cleaner, container ship. Whatever.
Without resorting to a Google Search, I bet most people can't. And even if you do, you come up with stuff like a DVD player with "slot-in disc loading and a premium volume wheel that controls sound" - IOW, meaningless junk.
Samsung is never going to match Apple's innovation because Korea is culturally, politically, economically, and socially fundamentally different from California. And I don't care how many million dollars they spend on research campuses, or bused-in ice-cream parlors - you simply cannot dictate that a company become innovative. It makes as much sense as "the beatings will continue until morale improves."
That doesn't mean that Samsung doesn't make decent products. But it is rooted in a culture that simply doesn't tolerate the kind of diversity of thought and deed that fosters real innovation.
They make the best LED 3D TV's out IMO, they've for the past decade been very active in releasing some of the best phones, Some of the best (non-apple) laptops. And it goes on. But the difference here is they've got 10000 phones, Apple has 4, so it's a bit easier remembering Apples phones. They've got a 10000 laptops, 1000 tvs, 1000 computer screens, 1000 microwaves so it's a bit hard remembering the very innovative product. But what I know is that they've got a bunch of products that were "truly innovative", can't remember them though cause they've got too many products.
It's easy knowing Apples products, or even if Windows is worthless everyone on earth knows about the currenty Windows system. But IBM which is one of the most innovative companies in the world, if not the #1 tech company ahead of Apple maybe. What do you know about them? nothing besides Watson.
Samsung is a mass production company, they s#*t out products therefore the assets and revenues almost 4 times of Apples. If Apple released as many products as Samsung it would be the exact same case, people like you wouldn't recognize Apples greatness. I mean Apple is their second biggest costumer, so even they recognize Samsungs greatness.
Slandering any of these great companies is the reason to why a lot of people dislike discussing tech with Apple fans. Apple is the greatest but Samsung is great as well.
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How about (s)amoleds(+) and flash-drives and fusion memory, to name but a few? You do know that you are talking about the second larger semiconductor company in the world (only running short to intel themselves).
Sure, we can sit here and argue about what constitutes "truly innovative", but if we do, ill shoot down the ipod, iphone and ipad before you even take your first breath (along with basically all other Apple devices).
Whether or not people know anything about samsung or not changes little. Many people used to think the earth was flat, and that we live in a terracentric world. Did we? No, which goes to show how irrelevant our believes about a certain fact is for the fact itself.
Flexible screens, anyone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8S8tbQMp2k
Transparent screens, anyone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwCi-WqMIFA&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Both, anyone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY_ADCTBKVE&feature=relmfu
It is companies like Samsung that enable the success of those like Apple. Instead of belittling them, give them the praise they deserve.
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There are many tech. companies ahead of Apple, assuming we measure "tech" and not "market cap" (or similar).
No.
My post has nothing whatsoever to do with race.
It has to do with culture and society. Korean-Americans (along with ethnic Chinese, Vietnamese, Indians, Russians, Poles, French, Scots, Welsh, English, Turks, Egyptians, and pretty much every other nationality, and mix of nationalities, you can think of) continue to innovate and thrive in Silicon Valley, Silicon Alley, the Research Triangle and a host of other hotbeds of innovation in the United States.
Korea, as a society, simply isn't like that. It is a hierarchical, patriarchical, traditionalist society dominated by a very few massive monopolistic companies. In other words - you either get a job working for Samsung, a big bank, or the Government. The domestic market simply isn't big enough for a Korean version of Facebook or Google or Hewlett-Packard or Apple to ever get started. It wouldn't get financing, and if it DID, the investors would quietly murder the founders if a) it failed or b) it succeded.
That's why Samsung will never equal Apple, at least when it comes to innovation.
Just been researching South Korea on Wikipedia looks like I was wrong about it being a supressed police state, I have never had any dealings with the country so did not know about its true status I was maybe exposing ignorance but was certainly not being racist, I assumed that it was like North Korea except without a psychotic leader and a better infrastructure, guess I was wrong.
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The iPhone would not exist (in it's released versions) without Samsung.
As for your Ferrari F150 quip... hate to break it to you, but Ford won.
Ford is worth more and has more money than Ferrari could ever dream of.
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The iPhone would not exist (in it's released versions) without Samsung.
As for your Ferrari F150 quip... hate to break it to you, but Ford won.
Ford is worth more and has more money than Ferrari could ever dream of.[/QUOTE]
Only because they are popular with sales reps and delivery drivers, of course they are going to have more money than Ferrari as they mass produce whereas Ferrari's are custom built and you can't buy a Ferrari in many cases without A) being worth a fortune and B) Being a member of Corse Cliente
Something that sells a few hundred a year is going to have less liquid cash than something that sells millions in mass production but ask anyone what they aspire to own more out of a Ferrari or a Ford (unless its a GT) and 99% would say Ferrari
As for your Ferrari F150 quip... hate to break it to you, but Ford won.
Ford is worth more and has more money than Ferrari could ever dream of.[/QUOTE]
Only because they are popular with sales reps and delivery drivers, of course they are going to have more money than Ferrari as they mass produce whereas Ferrari's are custom built and you can't buy a Ferrari in many cases without A) being worth a fortune and B) Being a member of Corse Cliente
Something that sells a few hundred a year is going to have less liquid cash than something that sells millions in mass production but ask anyone what they aspire to own more out of a Ferrari or a Ford (unless its a GT) and 99% would say Ferrari
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Its a little bit of payback, remember Apple did the same thing to Samsung on the release of its Galaxy s2, I have no doubt they going to include the iphone 4 in its law suit for wireless patent breaches. They are going for the double whammy upon Iphone 5's release.
Besides the fact that Samsung is always listed in the top 20 "most innovative" companies in the world by major magazines, two things come to mind right away.
- Samsung was the first maker to build an MP3 capable phone, years before even iPods existed.
- Samsung has been the first to break many Flash memory boundaries, which Apple has relied upon in their products.
True, it is different. I was stationed in Korea for a year, worked with Koreans and had many dinners with their families. Also worked with Koreans in the USA, albeit in New York, not the west coast.
So I would point out that innovation is different even in California vs New York, as some decisions are made differently even in various parts of the USA:
When the iPhone was first announced, many were flabbergasted that it didn't have 3G at a time when every other smartphone did. Of course, free WiFi was more abundant in California at the time, so it made sense to the Apple designers.
Then there was the capacitive screen choice, which meant gloved fingers wouldn't work. Again, a Californian weather style choice. I'm half convinced that Apple waited until summer to start sales partly because they were afraid of losing huge Northern markets in the winter