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Have there been any studies about the reliability of these growingly complex SSD's vs traditional spinning drives? Just curious....
Yes. Backblaze publishes a report of their experience yearly and it's quite in depth.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Backblazes reports are regarding traditional spinners and not SSDs.

A couple months back I linked an article regarding GOOGLE's 6 Year Study on SSD Reliability | Flash Reliability in Production. It's a good read.
 
I find it interesting that there are supposedly 16x 256GB chips in there, so there is 8x chips in parallel, probably for speed and reliability?

There are sixteen 256Gb (i.e. gigabit) chips inside, which is equal to 512GB (i.e. gigabytes). Note the difference between small and big B - b means bit and B means byte. One byte is equal to eight bits.
 
I'm sure Apple will rush to get this soldered and non-upgradable storage into the Macs as soon as possible!
Man, you could easily have 2-3TB SSD laptop with this technology. Do you really need to upgrade it?
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Cool but really hope this doesn't mean it's soldered to the board.
Non-soldered you wouldn't be abe to reach 1500Mb/s I am afraid.
 
That's pretty cool..

Truly high capacity SSD's and 512GB phones and tablets here we come
 
Non-soldered you wouldn't be abe to reach 1500Mb/s I am afraid.

There are M.2 PCIe SSDs doing +3GB/s. Soldering saves space, that's the main reason. Otherwise the SSD needs its own PCH and a separate connector, which both take space.
 
Cool but really hope this doesn't mean it's soldered to the board.

You can be certain of this, on the other hand this is so small that they can solder a few of these on it.....
Looking at what Intel is doing, I expect this to be solder directly on the mother board and in the far future: intgrated directly with the CPU
 
Wowzers..... !! These chips are getting tiny.

Why are chips still external these day when we have the capability to integrate everything in a single chip, improving speed and performance ? Plus, the benefit of adding saving space for any other components, u could otherwise not do. Wouldn't being external also slow down performance ?
 
How does the read/write speed compare to RAM?

If you're talking about writing 5 GB in 3 seconds... that certainly sounds like it's in the realm of RAM speed to me.

You could transfer an entirely TB of data in under 10 minutes and 30 seconds.

Based on this Wikipedia article about bit rates of various devices, DDR4-3200 RAM can transfer 25.6 gigabytes per second, so that 1 TB of data would take only 40 seconds, compared to the SSD's 10.5 minutes. This SSD is fast, much faster than any spinning disk, but it's not close to contemporary RAM speeds.
 
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Soon we may even see the say when SSD and RAM speeds are equal. Probably won't be for a long time though
 
But, but, but......

Samsung only copies????? How can this be?

Or is this a copy of an Apple products that has not been announced?
 
Based on this Wikipedia article about bit rates of various devices, DDR4-3200 RAM can transfer 25.6 gigabytes per second, so that 1 TB of data would take only 40 seconds, compared to the SSD's 10.5 minutes. This SSD is fast, much faster than any spinning disk, but it's not close to contemporary RAM speeds.

This hard drive moves data at 1.6 GB/s, so it's faster than some of the slowest RAM on that list. The fact this comparison can seriously be made at all seems pretty promising to me. It seems like historically RAM has been ~100x faster than disks... this thing is 1/16th the speed of RAM.
 
Because they are ridiculously cheap because nobody wants them?

Even if this SSD storage was in the same price point as 1 TB 5400 rpm spindle drive, Apple will still find a way to keep the spinning drive as the base and charge $300-$500 for flash based storage. I am so sick of this crap, it is unbelievable.

My freaking 6 years old i5 27" iMac with Samsung SSD is snappier and performs better in most office and general tasks than a brand new base $1799 27" iMac system. This is disgusting.
 
All you guys that claim Apple to be falling behind in innovation because of this SSD: The race simply does not exist here!

Apple simply doesn't compete in mass storage research (at least not until now). Compared to Apple Samsung is a much broader company with lots of divisions and their phone and computer guys probably buy components from "Samsung Components" (or whatever name they have) just as any other customer (I don't know the financial legislation in Korea, but chances are that they also don't get (much) better pricing than any other customer).

So you could claim as well that "Samsung Phone" or "Samsung Computer" are falling behind in the innovation race, as they did not develop such an SSD (which would be as flawed a comparison as the Apple one).
 
hopefully, this means we are going to start seeing the arrival of 2.5" SSD's in 4, 6, and 8TB capacities.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Backblazes reports are regarding traditional spinners and not SSDs.

A couple months back I linked an article regarding GOOGLE's 6 Year Study on SSD Reliability | Flash Reliability in Production. It's a good read.
To be honest I read it a while ago and couldn't remember if SSD's were started to be included. Either way my main point was there are services that are tracking the reliability of the drives they use and publishing the results publically. SSDs are bound to be included at some point as costs go down and reliability goes up.

I remember one study showing that SSDs were far more reliable and writable for consumers for a decade. Servers would obviously shorten that lifetime. I think it was either an Arstechnica or Anandtech article.
 
> 1TB SSDs....It wasn't that long ago I was all excited when I purchased the 16KB (that's 16,000 bytes) memory expansion module for my Sinclair T1000. That came with 1K base memory, tape cassette storage, and 1Mhz Z80 processor. I still have that in my attic along with my 300 baud modem.

The computer company I work for now, I can remember the long strings of 100MB hard drives; each the size of a dish washer.
 
I think the optane ones will win this fight. Because they are faster. But i guess, the price may be also a decision for apple to take...
 
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