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Better to try and fail than to never try.

Designs like this at the very least push boundaries, get the public thinking and give Apple something to improve on down the track.
Not really. You can try some really stupid stuff and waste your time.

Samsung has already warned their business is shrinking.
 
Multitouch is overrated. Very few iPhone operations actually use it: zoom and multi-finger swipes. It's good for zoom. Multi-finger swipes are just good to have and some may argue they are a bad UI design practice (not intuitive or easy to discover). Multitouch was enabled by switch to capacitive screens. These screens bring other benefits apart from multitouch. None of it is Apple invention though (but good timing for iPhone introduction).

Foldable devices (if they really work) would enable another dimension in mobility. Just like everything that smartphones can do now was always possible to do on desktops/laptops, when you can take it with you, it's a different use case. Many of the features we use on smartphones today simply would not work on 3" screens. Similarly, having a tablet size device in your pocket could potentially represent another case of transformation of quantity into quality.

‘Multitouch is overrated.”

As someone who used PCs (by which I mean personal computers, not just windows and dos machines) from 1977, and palm and pocketPC phones before iPhone, i disagree with any contention that multitouch didn’t revolutionize the entire computing industry
 
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‘Multitouch is overrated.”

As someone who used PCs (by which I mean personal computers, not just windows and dos machines) from 1977, and palm and pocketPC phones before iPhone, i disagree with any contention that multitouch didn’t revolutionize the entire computing industry

But you use it only for zoom, right? On desktop, there are much better options for zoom in/out than multitouch. For example, I am sure you are familiar with the concepts of "strokes" in CAD editors where diagonal mouse strokes are used for tons of operations: zoom/in, zoom/out, create an object (rectangle), select/delete an object etc. Two diagonals give us four directional vectors. Multiply it by 3 mouse buttons and Ctrl/Alt/Shift modifiers (8 combinations) and you get 4*3*8 = 96 commands, each one of them with very clear help message about what it is doing while it is doing it. Multitouch just helps mitigate the disasterous lack of input methods on a slab device. So, yes it was a progress compared to previous mobile devices (with resistive screens) but that's about it.
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You mean the notch that contains technology that Samsung is years away from duplicating...

The most critical part of this technology is hardware which was not developed by Apple. Samsung can implement similar tech easily (just like Huawei did releasing P10 with the same tech as iPhone X just a few months after X and they preannounced the tech even before iPhone X was released). For some reason many Apple fans believe that Apple is years ahead in this field which is simply not the case.
 
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Regardless of the uber-strong (and narrow-minded) Apple tribalism in here:

Foldable displays are indeed a leap of "think different" and create a challenge to engineering, and to product and ergonomic design.

Will it succeed? Maybe... maybe not.

But if successful, it will be disruptive, and create designs that we have yet to imagine -- akin to the natural evolution of three-dimensional, multi-finger, touch.

Those that deny this, are either blinded by tribalism or idiots, or both.

An Engineering challenge maybe ... but not as much as you'd think, beyond the screen itself.

Battery Placement, Hinges and longevity, etc have been done over 10 yrs before ...
HTC and mainly the OG Nokia with their E90 (Communicator series), N70/N90/N92, and especially the really wack yet sheek lipstick phone thought of just about anything you can do with a phones design, changing shapes, etc. Many of Nokia's S60 based phones were far too radical for the general public ... but they really pushed the limits back then. I expected Samsung to have accomplished this years ago.

Sad soo late in the game.

I'll pass the 'foldable' screen era for a Watch + AR sleek & discreet glasses.
 
But you use it only for zoom, right? On desktop, there are much better options for zoom in/out than multitouch. For example, I am sure you are familiar with the concepts of "strokes" in CAD editors where diagonal mouse strokes are used for tons of operations: zoom/in, zoom/out, create an object (rectangle), select/delete an object etc. Two diagonals give us four directional vectors. Multiply it by 3 mouse buttons and Ctrl/Alt/Shift modifiers (8 combinations) and you get 4*3*8 = 96 commands, each one of them with very clear help message about what it is doing while it is doing it. Multitouch just helps mitigate the disasterous lack of input methods on a slab device. So, yes it was a progress compared to previous mobile devices (with resistive screens) but that's about it.
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The most critical part of this technology is hardware which was not developed by Apple. Samsung can implement similar tech easily (just like Huawei did releasing P10 with the same tech as iPhone X just a few months after X and they preannounced the tech even before iPhone X was released). For some reason many Apple fans believe that Apple is years ahead in this field which is simply not the case.
How about a phone on the market that uses the technology at the same level that they replaced it as a superior mode of biometric security..If it was easy or if they were sure it was as secure as Faceid they would of done it. How about listing some sources that show the tech Huawei has supposedly had before Apple is just as good or identical as Apples? I’ve heard many have tried or are trying but, none have come close.
 
How about a phone on the market that uses the technology at the same level that they replaced it as a superior mode of biometric security..If it was easy or if they were sure it was as secure as Faceid they would of done it. How about listing some sources that show the tech Huawei has supposedly had before Apple is just as good or identical as Apples? I’ve heard many have tried or are trying but, none have come close.
Just an example: Exclusive: Huawei P20 Face Unlock Is Faster Than Apple's iPhone X Face ID
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This hole looks unreal ugly, notch at least is symmetrical.
Well, how about iPhone rear side cameras. Are they unreal ugly too? And do you really want a thing that obstructs part of the screen to be in the middle?
 
But how do they become not boring in your mind then? What else are they suppose to do?
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Android is miles better than it was 3 years ago. Certainly from a software point of view. Far more stable than it was.

Yea stability is better, but there really hasn’t been anything innovative. Not saying Apple has been on a roll in that area either.
 
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Just an example: Exclusive: Huawei P20 Face Unlock Is Faster Than Apple's iPhone X Face ID
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Well, how about iPhone rear side cameras. Are they unreal ugly too? And do you really want a thing that obstructs part of the screen to be in the middle?
Thank you for the article yet it doesn’t say it is the same 3D depth sensing technology. Samsung’s iris scanner is faster than Faceid also yet much less secure. Does Huawei boast it is as secure as there own touchid and recommend using it as the primary way to secure the phone? Samsung says there iris scanner shouldn’t be used as the primary security...
 
From my experience there are a lot of people who truly believe that manually managing media via a file manager, changing their phone icons and installing apps from outside the store is 'exciting'.

Exciting? No. Liberating? Yes. Anything that delivers pre–iOS ownership to today’s cookie cutter UX is welcome.
 
Lol well I see Samsung still knows how to get the Apple fandom in a tizzy. Still rocking my iPhone X but I do have my eyes on the S10+. Apple’s 2018 phone line up was laughable and the declining the sales are proof of that. The S models from last year were easily the worst in iPhone history. People can say what they want about Samsung but atleast they’re trying something new and pushing technology forward.

A lot of people bashing the foldable phone are some of the same people who probably bashed the Note when it was first introduced, which is ironic b/c if it wasn’t for the Note being a successful mainstream big screen device...there would be no plus or max sized iPhones. Im looking forward to seeing what Sammy has up its sleeves and hopefully it’ll push Apple to knock it outta the park this fall
 
So... they have a hole as their notch and then a normal ugly chin.... let’s see how many people start bragging it’s “all screen” and there’s still a boarder on the top... this is just a gimmicky way to “appear” bezeless but Samsung doesn’t even use the tech that put the notch there in the first place.
There are still bezels on the iphone X and the current Samsung phones (note 9, S9) have a better screen to body ratio than the iphone xs/xsmax
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Thank you for the article yet it doesn’t say it is the same 3D depth sensing technology. Samsung’s iris scanner is faster than Faceid also yet much less secure. Does Huawei boast it is as secure as there own touchid and recommend using it as the primary way to secure the phone? Samsung says there iris scanner shouldn’t be used as the primary security...
Samsung say it's facial recognition shouldn't be used as it's primary security. Iris scanning can be used to authenticate Samsung pay and Samsung consider it to be very secure.

The 3D facial scanning on the mate 20 pro is supposed to be similar to the set up on the iphone x.
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Great if you want to use something less secure. I’m sure this phone will do as well as the Note 9 did..
It has to be secure enough which I'm sure it will. Face ID isn't the only way of securely unlocking a phone.
 
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The S models from last year were easily the worst in iPhone history.

Legitimately just asking here, why would the 2018 iPhone XS models be the worst in iPhone history? Based on what exactly? Could I make the counter argument, that the iPhone XS is one the best iPhones I have ever owned?

A lot of people bashing the foldable phone are some of the same people who probably bashed the Note when it was first introduced

A foldable smart phone compared to a larger smart phone like the Note are really two different comparisons. The reason being, is there practicality for foldable phone in today’s market? Likely not yet, and even if it becomes mainstream, that would be years out, as you can see with the saturation of the market due to the influx of smart phone prices have greatly affected the consumer from upgrading. A foldable smart phone would likely be very niche category with an expensive price tag.
 
Just an example: Exclusive: Huawei P20 Face Unlock Is Faster Than Apple's iPhone X Face ID
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Well, how about iPhone rear side cameras. Are they unreal ugly too? And do you really want a thing that obstructs part of the screen to be in the middle?
Well, as expected the pattern keeps repeating itself again.
The Japanese decades ago weren't happy building cheap budget stuff (nowadays most people don't even remember the time Japanese products were considered second rate).
The Koreans came after that and weren't also going to stay in the back seat.
Now the Chinese of course wouldn't be happy just being contractors or manufacturers of 1€ store products.
Some brands will somehow adapt others will go away.
 
Lol well I see Samsung still knows how to get the Apple fandom in a tizzy. Still rocking my iPhone X but I do have my eyes on the S10+. Apple’s 2018 phone line up was laughable and the declining the sales are proof of that. The S models from last year were easily the worst in iPhone history. People can say what they want about Samsung but atleast they’re trying something new and pushing technology forward.

A lot of people bashing the foldable phone are some of the same people who probably bashed the Note when it was first introduced, which is ironic b/c if it wasn’t for the Note being a successful mainstream big screen device...there would be no plus or max sized iPhones. Im looking forward to seeing what Sammy has up its sleeves and hopefully it’ll push Apple to knock it outta the park this fall
If alleged sales, since no one knows the numbers are proof of “the worst models”, the s9 and note 9 were dismal failures.

I don’t see Samsung pushing anything forward except a spec bump. See how easy to say when there is no substance behind a critical remark?
 
Many of the anti-folding comments remind me of how people reacted to the first iPod: https://www.theatlantic.com/technol...ago-apples-ipod-spurs-mixed-reactions/280795/

Long story short, most people are terrible at seeing the future of tech. Not that this folding stuff is guaranteed to be the future, but there's also no reason to doubt it at this point.

Personally it just reminds me of the note edge when it was first coming out. That never took off. The flaws people were criticizing it for then is still much the same today.
 
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Personally it just reminds me of the note edge when it was first coming out. That never took off. The flaws people were criticizing it for then is still much the same today.
It did take off. The note edge was the pre-cursor to the curved displays on Samsung flagships today. When Samsung had flat versions and curved versions on sale at the same time, the edge version sold the most.
 
Many of the anti-folding comments remind me of how people reacted to the first iPod: https://www.theatlantic.com/technol...ago-apples-ipod-spurs-mixed-reactions/280795/

Long story short, most people are terrible at seeing the future of tech. Not that this folding stuff is guaranteed to be the future, but there's also no reason to doubt it at this point.
Remember the PCs that thought they’d make a laptop/tablet in one? Most of them broke within the first year, or sooner.
 
If alleged sales, since no one knows the numbers are proof of “the worst models”, the s9 and note 9 were dismal failures.

I don’t see Samsung pushing anything forward except a spec bump. See how easy to say when there is no substance behind a critical remark?

Some may consider the in screen ultrasonic fingerprint scanner, with its increased security over optical fp sensors, to be more than just a "spec bump".
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Microsoft Surface for starters :) plus models from Lenovo, Dell, HP, Samsung etc

Remember the PCs that thought they’d make a laptop/tablet in one? Most of them broke within the first year, or sooner.
 
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