Samsung Announces Galaxy S10 Event on February 20 in San Francisco, May Include Foldable Smartphone

[forerunnerg34]

I have two questions about your points... so you are saying iPhone cant upgrade their software twice? and you are saying Samsung batteries never degrade over time?

so you are saying iPhone cant upgrade their software twice?
Actually, iPhones can!, if you didn't know that, you will be surprised to know that iPhones can receive more than 2 updates, for example I had a 5S and was updated until iOS11 (sadly was barely usable because it was so slow), but the phone was able to update.


and you are saying Samsung batteries never degrade over time?
Maybe you read that in somewhere else, I don't even mention the word battery or degrade

 

[trillionaire]

If done right, the foldable phone could be a very interesting proposition. I don't see it happening soon though, at least not done right. A foldable phone will only make it a flip phone with a huge screen. I want something that has a flexibility that will allow me to fold it up and put it in a small pocket. I don't think current screen technology or phone materials allow for that type of capability.

 

[Cryates]

I really do love all these new smartphone designs that are coming out , but unless Android and Apple find a way for us to use Apple Watch on Android platform, i am stuck on the existing Iphone platform. Not that I'm complaining about it...

I've been thinking about this a lot recently since it appears that Apple is starting to expand its reach, at least in the services area, to all consumers and not just those who buy Apple products. Tim Cook was recently quoted as saying "If you zoom out into the future, and you look back, and you ask the question: 'What was Apple's greatest contribution to mankind?', it will be about health." ... if that's true, and that's what you want to be heralded as your single greatest contribution to mankind, and mankind being every living and breathing human on this planet, not just those in your ecosystem, then you need to reach all of mankind. This starts by acknowledging that every human is different and not everyone wants to buy an iPhone in order to use an Apple Watch. And not every human can afford the necessary. Apple Watch is a dominant force in the tech industry and it's only going to become a more important tool in the health industry as well.

But you can't reach all of mankind if the device is only usable within your sandbox. There are markets across the world where some consumers simply cannot afford your ecosystem, but they could possibly afford a slice of it. Right now the only way to use the Apple Watch is to be fully invested in the ecosystem; To live inside the aforementioned sandbox. Not everyone wants or can afford to live in that sandbox.

It appears that Apple is going to play nicer with it's competing brands moving forward, at least for services. I hope that outreach stretches to hardware as well, and specifically the Apple Watch, otherwise I fear Apple's health contribution to mankind will, in the end, be a half-baked effort.

 

[cmaier]

Regardless of the uber-strong (and narrow-minded) Apple tribalism in here:

Foldable displays are indeed a leap of "think different" and create a challenge to engineering, and to product and ergonomic design.

Will it succeed? Maybe... maybe not.

But if successful, it will be disruptive, and create designs that we have yet to imagine -- akin to the natural evolution of three-dimensional, multi-finger, touch.

Those that deny this, are either blinded by tribalism or idiots, or both.

It may well be true. But when the iPhone was first demonstrated, it was instantly obvious why it was disruptive. From what I’ve seen of folded phones so far, this is not the case. Rather, every demonstration appears to be a technology in search of a problem to solve. I don’t think folding devices will become useful until new, as yet unimagined form-factors and purposes are developed. A bifold/trifold hybrid phone/tablet is not at all disruptive to the extent that, for example, multi-touch was.

 

[PeteS1963]

But the notch is still there.

Best of both worlds

 

[The Game 161]

That’s kinda the answer I figured I would get. Not shocked no offense.

Sure Samsung users love their phones. Same with iPhone users...

But they are boring af

But how do they become not boring in your mind then? What else are they suppose to do?
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Seems about the same as the S8 and S9 from what I have read. Not too impressed with anything hardware related nowadays (Apple included). It all comes down to software and Android is still the same as it was 3 years ago. Apple is not all that better, but they have shown a willingness lately to make changes and I hope that continues with iOS 13.

Android is miles better than it was 3 years ago. Certainly from a software point of view. Far more stable than it was.

 

[msama]

This is interesting, either Apple tested and decided against a folding screen or Samsung beat them to it. My gut says this will be a mess but I am hopeful.

 

[ImAnAgent]

I think I may very well skip the S10/Note 10 this year. I'm just getting kind of bored with Samsung lately.

I have a S9+ and a Note 9. I have a sim in my Note 9 that I use every day along with my XS Max.

Android OS has gotten to be nearly perfect these days. I'm just not excited about new Samsung phones like I once was.

 

[MarkB786]

Oh no. The non-symmetrical hole is bad.

 

[ux4all]

Forgive me, but am I the only one that sees the rubberband design? We had a flip phone, then we didn't, then we do again?

Cmon Nokia and Motorola, this was all you!

 

[theOmega]

Gotta give it to Samsung for really trying to forge their path here, they’re probably the only consumer brand that didn’t copied the iPhone notch and if Apple’s not careful they’ll be first consumer brand releasing a display with cameras under the display.

 

[Cryates]

If the options are truly endless what makes the experience so unique ?

What makes the user experience of any of these devices truly unique, iPhone included? They all do the same tasks in slightly different ways. Some with small added features vs another. At the end of the day though, we're all doing the same things in pretty much the same ways.

The entire industry has become boring in a multitude of ways.
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Android is miles better than it was 3 years ago. Certainly from a software point of view. Far more stable than it was.

I agree wholeheartedly with this. The OS is still in a fragmented frenzy across the OEM's, but the pure OS behind it has improved dramatically.

 

[gavroche]

so you are saying iPhone cant upgrade their software twice?
Actually, iPhones can!, if you didn't know that, you will be surprised to know that iPhones can receive more than 2 updates, for example I had a 5S and was updated until iOS11 (sadly was barely usable because it was so slow), but the phone was able to update.


and you are saying Samsung batteries never degrade over time?
Maybe you read that in somewhere else, I don't even mention the word battery or degrade

I suppose I could’ve read your comments incorrectly… But the way you said that the Samsung phone was exciting because you could update it twice... To me that would suggest that in comparison, you couldn’t update other phone such as the iPhone twice. And you also threw in a comment that updating it wouldn’t slow the phone down. I’m not really sure what point you’re making there … The only thing I could think of was that iPhones had the issue of being slowed down, which Apple chose to do in response to degraded batteries. Due to the outcry, they changed the setting to not be turned on by the default. If that wasn’t your point, what did you mean by the Samsung not being slowed down by a software update?

 

[sofila]

That’s kinda the answer I figured I would get. Not shocked no offense.

Sure Samsung users love their phones. Same with iPhone users...

But they are boring af

I don't find my tools to be boring. I only use them if or when needed. Dishwasher or thermostat or water taps just have to work as expected. So phones are supposed to be

 

[Substance90]

I don't want to fold my phone.

Until Apple releases a foldable iPhone, right?

 

[Baymowe335]

Regardless of the uber-strong (and narrow-minded) Apple tribalism in here:

Foldable displays are indeed a leap of "think different" and create a challenge to engineering, and to product and ergonomic design.

Will it succeed? Maybe... maybe not.

But if successful, it will be disruptive, and create designs that we have yet to imagine -- akin to the natural evolution of three-dimensional, multi-finger, touch.

Those that deny this, are either blinded by tribalism or idiots, or both.

You make it sound like the foldable display is some kind of obvious need. The iPhone was CLEARLY disruptive when it came out. Why is a foldable screen going to work today?

Different doesn’t always mean needed or better. Apple implements technology a lot better than the competition, not necessarily always being first.

Apple did invent the modern smartphone, however...but that was clear.

 

[falainber]

It may well be true. But when the iPhone was first demonstrated, it was instantly obvious why it was disruptive. From what I’ve seen of folded phones so far, this is not the case. Rather, every demonstration appears to be a technology in search of a problem to solve. I don’t think folding devices will become useful until new, as yet unimagined form-factors and purposes are developed. A bifold/trifold hybrid phone/tablet is not at all disruptive to the extent that, for example, multi-touch was.

Multitouch is overrated. Very few iPhone operations actually use it: zoom and multi-finger swipes. It's good for zoom. Multi-finger swipes are just good to have and some may argue they are a bad UI design practice (not intuitive or easy to discover). Multitouch was enabled by switch to capacitive screens. These screens bring other benefits apart from multitouch. None of it is Apple invention though (but good timing for iPhone introduction).

Foldable devices (if they really work) would enable another dimension in mobility. Just like everything that smartphones can do now was always possible to do on desktops/laptops, when you can take it with you, it's a different use case. Many of the features we use on smartphones today simply would not work on 3" screens. Similarly, having a tablet size device in your pocket could potentially represent another case of transformation of quantity into quality.

 

[Baymowe335]

Until Apple releases a foldable iPhone, right?

Probably, because they’ll do it properly with the right software too.
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Multitouch is overrated. Very few iPhone operations actually use it: zoom and multi-finger swipes. It's good for zoom. Multi-finger swipes are just good to have and some may argue they are a bad UI design practice (not intuitive or easy to discover). Multitouch was enabled by switch to capacitive screens. These screens bring other benefits apart from multitouch. None of it is Apple invention though (but good timing for iPhone introduction).

Foldable devices (if they really work) would enable another dimension in mobility. Just like everything that smartphones can do now was always possible to do on desktops/laptops, when you can take it with you, it's a different use case. Many of the features we use on smartphones today simply would not work on 3" screens. Similarly, having a tablet size device in your pocket could potentially represent another case of transformation of quantity into quality.

I guarantee you the consensus on the foldable phone will be it’s pointless, worse, and/or not ready yet.

 

[Tech198]

Foldable phone already ? There have been times when Apple's gonna off their mark as well. I don't think Apple's always been the "big-kahuna" here.

 

[WitneySi]

Many of the anti-folding comments remind me of how people reacted to the first iPod: https://www.theatlantic.com/technol...ago-apples-ipod-spurs-mixed-reactions/280795/

Long story short, most people are terrible at seeing the future of tech. Not that this folding stuff is guaranteed to be the future, but there's also no reason to doubt it at this point.

Macrumour thread on the announcement of the iPod, which when reading proves nothing’s changed and that as Apple fans we’re forever critical

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.500/

 

[iapplelove]

I don't find my tools to be boring. I only use them if or when needed. Dishwasher or thermostat or water taps just have to work as expected. So phones are supposed to be

Talk about taking the easy way out of the conversation.. good job
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The entire industry has become boring in a multitude of ways..

This is my point exactly.. iPhone, Samsung etc.

 

[sofila]

Talk about taking the easy way out of the conversation.. good job
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This is my point exactly.. iPhone, Samsung etc.

You've spent several posts talking about boring objects but not any explanation about what would be exciting (and not happening at the moment) for you. So phones are like other commodities: doing quite well with what we are expecting them to do now

 

[timber]

Gotta give it to Samsung for really trying to forge their path here, they’re probably the only consumer brand that didn’t copied the iPhone notch and if Apple’s not careful they’ll be first consumer brand releasing a display with cameras under the display.

Just like Apple rules undisputed the mobile SoC business, Samsung's mobile displays are second to none.
If someone does the under display thing Samsung will surely be on the pole position.

 

[TracesOfArsenic]

Can't wait to see them try a foldable phone with buggy software and zero real world benefits...then quietly kill it in 18 months.

Samsung: Throw something out and see if it sticks.

Better to try and fail than to never try.

Designs like this at the very least push boundaries, get the public thinking and give Apple something to improve on down the track.

 

[GregJohn]

So... they have a hole as their notch and then a normal ugly chin.... let’s see how many people start bragging it’s “all screen” and there’s still a boarder on the top... this is just a gimmicky way to “appear” bezeless but Samsung doesn’t even use the tech that put the notch there in the first place.