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Haha, right now I'm picturing a 1960's-style commercial complete with narration where everyone has their noses literally BURIED in the phones. Little Jimmy is confused and the narrator chuffs and says, gee Jimmy, you must be wondering why everyone is 35% closer to their phones! They're doing it to get the most out of their new Samsung Galaxy 4! And you can too!

And yes, I realize that the trig doesn't work out for 35% but I'm being cheeky. The point is the only way the resolution is "better" is if you get the screen ungodly close to your face to accommodate for physical limitation of the resolving power of the eye. That is, until Apple releases the iEye which will usher in the era of 700+ppi displays (mostly fueled by Soylent Green).

Get as close as you want to an iPhone, you can't see any pixels at 300+ DPI. That's what we use for print. Do you see pixels in your printed books? Get closer. Still don't? And if the new Samsung is 1080p, then it's actually less ppi than the iPhone. Not sure where they're doing their math.
 
Samsung says it's going to sell 400 million smartphones this year. That's about twice as many as Apple will sell. If Apple called up Samsung tomorrow and said they'll buy as many OLED displays as Samsung can sell them, I'm sure Sammy would find a way to put some cheaper displays in its $49 emerging market phones to accommodate.
You can't arrange this overnight by a phone call: building up that scale manufacturing capacity will take months, years, especially considering that worldwide demand for OLED will skyrocket exponentially including Samsung's own demand. Tablets will also want it. I am not even sure if Apple will get priority here vs. HTC, Nokia, Motorola.
 
get as close as you want to an iphone, you can't see any pixels at 300+ dpi. That's what we use for print. Do you see pixels in your printed books? Get closer. Still don't? And if the new samsung is 1080p, then it's actually less ppi than the iphone. Not sure where they're doing their math.

35% moar pixels = 35% moar awesome and that's a scientificamalogically proven fact.

Edit: Macrumors formatted that to not-capslock which totally sucks. I should all be in major huge caps.
 
Wait, what genius did the math on that ppi? That's complete BS. PPI. Pixels per inch. If it's a 5" diagonal 1920x1080p screen, then that's outright impossible. Even if they measured it horizontally. Because horizontally that'd be 1920 / 5 = 384ppi. So, if the screen is 5" diagonally, that means it's much more than 5" horizontally. Let's say it's 6" horizontally. 1920/6=320ppi. Starting to sound more like the iPhone to me. The bigger a screen gets, the lower it's ppi. Unless you plan on actually giving more resolution than 1080p. Like the iPad.

your the one that needs to check your maths.
 
This should have been called the Samsung Galaxy S3s

Being an avid Samsung fan, this certainly was less than what I expected. I was seriously put off by the complete absence of mentioning a processor, until I realized WHY; because this was an international audience watching. The international version appears to include an 8 core 1.6GHz processor, while here in the US we get a 1.9GHz quadcore. Seriously WTF!?

People have to realise that the 8 cores are an implementation of Arm's bigLittle concept...
The Idea is to have Powerfull CPU-cores shadowed by older generation, simpler less powerful but energy-efficient CPU-cores. So in reality what you have is a 4-core CPU that can switch between power-hungry or power efficient.

This is why Apple developed its own CPU for the iPhone 5, because it didn't want to have enormous CPU dies in order to compensate this generation's Arm power consumption (we have gotten to the point where we start using design that were meant for server rather than mobile devices), since power consumption is also function of the quantity of transistors.

Last benchmark I read showed that Apple design, while less powerful than competing CPUs was still the best in power-efficiency.

At this point it's all about what you chose to put forward on your chips, CPU-bound task (those shouldn't be that common on mobile devices) or graphical ones (what Apple has chosen since the beginning).

What people should be worried about right now is whether or not this generation devices have x265 capacities on chips, since content consumption is what most people do and this format will encode a majority of the videos pretty soon at the cost of 3-times the calculation needs. So if your shiny new mobile devices needs to compress and decompress every video you watch by software say good-by to your battery life.
 
Some Apple fans need to grow up. SG4 seriously good device

Some people on here just need to grow up. These Android/Apple Zealots just make fools of themselves. I'm an Apple fan, sitting here typing on my logitech keyboard and iPad 2. I have an iPhone 5, but that does not mean I cant admire another company's ability to innovate.

As someone posted, Apple and Samsung have settled on a form factor and OS that people love they bought have their own preferences. But Samsung have shown that the innovation is in the ecosystem and lifestyle app development.

They have looked at how we use our phones and filled in gaps in the device capabilities. From Camera, to health board.

Will it make me move from Apple probably not, although screen size and keyboard is a major issue (love the fact you can use swift key as default or load up swype if you want). But I can understand why they sell millions. It's healthy competition and will give Apple a kick up the arse, iOS is stale.
 
That's not a bad looking phone, but seriously what is with Samsung's marketing?

"Full HD Super AMOLED"? "Life Companion"? And not to mention the really bizarre teaser videos with the kid and the box containing the S4. Seriously, one of the strangest pre-release teasers I've ever seen.
 
Apple is hanging on to the smartphone market by a thread, a name, and an IOS. Sorry, but the hardware on this is WAY better than the iPhone 5. Apple is "stuck on thin" and its beyond annoying. They are destroying their mac lines slowly and I suspect the next iPhone will look very similar to the last iPhone. Seriously, who will buy an iPhone 5s that looks like an iPhone 5? If not for IOS, I would be on the galaxy.

Is it possible to get the Samsung to run iOS? Then I would have my dream phone with a larger screen.
 
Text looks better at higher resolutions, and all phones these days cheat with anti-aliasing, or putting grey pixels at the curves so you don't notice they don't have enough resolution.

Look into laser printers, 1200 dpi is considered STANDARD. 4800 even 9600 dpi is available. phones should go by those same standards. You'd be laughed out of a job if you handed in your resume with the <500 dpi that today's phones are.

I agree with you that text can look sharper, but how much sharper at 400+ for the new Samsung vs 326 for an iPhone? I think Samsung just wanted to check the 1080p marketing box?

1200 dpi is not standard, it is marketing, most printers prefer 600 dpi or 300 or less to save ink.

I challenge anyone here to do a thorough print testing of 600 vs 1200 dpi without a magnifying glass.

No takers, I thought so.


"You'd be laughed out of a job if you handed in your resume with the <500 dpi that today's phones are".

You think dpi is more important that experience. ?? With that attitude you couldn't even get a job a google. That dpi is your screen not your documents dummy. Life is to short to educate ignorant people, may my taxes will educate you?
 
great device but damn that presentation was hard and they missed out a lot of information.
 
You're missing part of the point. Apple would suggest that what is there works well. Rather than lots of things that work badly.

Releasing "smart phone" with no copy/paste "works badly" to me.
Apple maps "works badly" to me too.
The whole iOS UI "works badly", since it is resolution dependant not allowing flexibility of various resolutions and screen sizes.
 
When Apple releases a phone that looks mostly the same (iPhone 4S): Meh! Apple is doomed!

When Samsung releases a phone that looks mostly the same (Galaxy S4): Wow! THAT'S innovation! Apple seriously needs to innovate!

It's gone one stage further! Apple are apparently doomed already according to this thread when they haven't announced anything to do with the next iPhone!

I watched the presentation. Couldn't get excited about it. Minor spec bumps and an hours worth of bad acting, play scenes and software that is completely gimmicky.
 
Is it possible to get the Samsung to run iOS? Then I would have my dream phone with a larger screen.

What either of you obviously still don't get is : no matter the specs and fancy numbers of the phones, the iPhones still run faster and more stable because of how the software and hardware work together. This has been repeated, and tested over and over. The 5 beat out the 3 (barely) despite the 3 having 2 GB ram and more Ghz.

What Samsung should do if they want to stop making ****** phones is first of all put some real art in it and get rid of that ugly 5 dollar plastic

And make their own OS that uses their hardware to its fullest extent. And of course without all that complicated crap they fill their phones with.

But they'll never learn perfection so f it lets just trust apple ;)
 
Wait, what genius did the math on that ppi? That's complete BS. PPI. Pixels per inch. If it's a 5" diagonal 1920x1080p screen, then that's outright impossible. Even if they measured it horizontally. Because horizontally that'd be 1920 / 5 = 384ppi. So, if the screen is 5" diagonally, that means it's much more than 5" horizontally. Let's say it's 6" horizontally. 1920/6=320ppi. Starting to sound more like the iPhone to me. The bigger a screen gets, the lower it's ppi. Unless you plan on actually giving more resolution than 1080p. Like the iPad.

Your math is absolutely horrendous and wrong. Please don't ever do this again.
 
Releasing "smart phone" with no copy/paste "works badly" to me.
Android 1.0 didn't have copy-and-paste, either.
Apple maps "works badly" to me too.
Have you tried it outside of Japan and Australia lately?
The whole iOS UI "works badly", since it is resolution dependant not allowing flexibility of various resolutions and screen sizes.
You must own lots of smartphones, as most of us are fine with just one smartphone with one screen (hence one resolution and one display size) and don't have those kinds of problems.
 
It's so bad that it's almost funny. It's the same phone again and they managed to copy something whilst they were at it. I'm convinced Samsung are incapable of original thought.


iPhone is still better, no matter now much Samsung wish they were Apple. :apple:
 
Dual camera mode and cinema-comething are smart features. We could borrow them, Apple. Otherwise nothing "revolutionary". And I'm sure even at quadcores Android is more sluggish experience than iOS on iPhone 5.
 
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