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Wow, bashing the s4 for not looking different?

Evolution rather than revolution?

Wonder what those people would say about the iphone.
 
Do you not require iTunes to sync to iTunes in the cloud?

Yes. But you need SOME sort of software to sync anything. If you want to go the micro-management route, there's iExplorer, a legit Mac app that allows you to put pretty much anything onto your iDevice. There's PC software to do the same without iTunes. And there are apps to play just about any file format. So no, iTunes isn't required. But I find iTunes to be quick and simple.
 
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It's not too difficult to make the screen bigger, which seems to be all that everyone wants...

Since when did Apple worry about giving people what they want ... that's the problem with Apple, the problem that's destroying their market share and alienating their customer base customer by customer![/QUOTE]

That's why iPhone was best selling phone last quarter? :confused:
 
That's why iPhone was best selling phone last quarter? :confused:

Wait, are you now trusting estimations by analysts??? :eek:

Edit: Just to make sure, are you talking about the iPhone series of phones being the best selling series of phones or the iPhone 5 being the best selling phone?
 
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Wow, bashing the s4 for not looking different?

Evolution rather than revolution?

Wonder what those people would say about the iphone.

Look in the iPhone 5 forums their are a frenzy of anti-apple mocking anyone who bought it because it "is the same as all the other iPhones" now samsung does it and it makes it ok.

I could care less either way I'm more concerned how the phone software performs vs the design that most people cover in a case anyways. -_-
 
Wow, 1000 comments! That is one of the most comments I have ever seen on this site.

I'm sure someone from Samsung has seen this thread and is laughing all the way to the bank. Regardless of comment content, they've just spawned one of the largest threads on one of their number 1 competitor's fansite.

Love it or hate it, all of us have just generated a heap of buzz for Samsung here.
 
Apple should try to exit the smart phone business and save some face while they still have some pride.

No way can they withstand the assault that Samsung is going to provide with their ever more impressive innovations.

The iPhone survived so long thanks to gimmicks, but its not getting it done anymore. Apple will be smart to enter some other market segment like smart watches.

Given the S4 feature list, it's interesting that you say the iPhone has 'gimmicks' whereas Samsung has 'innovation'. Extremely fine line between those two words, I think.
 
Nice specs

Looks like it's got some nice features. Decent specs, not sure what the octacore will bring to the table compared to the US quadcore. My guess is the Galaxy Note III will get the octacore. That's is one I am really keeping my eye on. To bring it back to apple, I am interested to see if they do to the 5S. Both will probablly be great phones that people will enjoy.
 
Yes it is, and by the comments in this thread a lot of people are worried :)

But why? Both are good phones, the iPhone & the samsung. And the good news is that both are phones not a discovery that Darth Vader truly exist and is about to invade planet earth.

I'm sure people will enjoy both products.

I, on the other hand still enjoy iOS, there's nothing that bothers me about Android.

Same here, but I do like the 'specs' of the device, hardware wise so to speak. I think this is good, it presses Apple to come with even better products. Competition is good.
 
But why? Both are good phones, the iPhone & the samsung. And the good news is that both are phones not a discovery that Darth Vader truly exist and is about to invade planet earth.

I'm sure people will enjoy both products.



Same here, but I do like the 'specs' of the device, hardware wise so to speak. I think this is good, it presses Apple to come with even better products. Competition is good.

Your points are completely valid, yet some of the responses here from the Android haters are rather amazing.

Having used both iOS and Android concurrently over the last few years I appreciate the pros and cons of each.
 
Personally I don't give much about the 'coolness' factor of a device, I just like a smarthphone or not. But it does look like Apple is loosing ground of being the number one cool company when talking about smarthphones. It's just something I see in Holland where I come from. Few years ago I saw many friends and people that I didn't know with iPhones, now I see way more Samsung devices. For me is simple logic, apple is not 'that cool company' --> as much <-- like they where some time ago in the eyes of many, especially, young people.

I remember Apple's, with quite some positive results, 'funny' commercials against the PC, the 'high I'm a pc, and I'm a mac' commercials. Those commercials where quite popular, just like, in my eyes, the brilliant concept of the 'Think Different' campaign. Now it 'seems' that Apple is being known for a more 'Think Quantity' approach. And often I see Apple in the news with new lawsuits of which many are being lost as well which is not good advertisement.

In fact, I don't recall Apple have launched any interesting campaign recently. And what about the big shows they used to organize when launching new products?

Don't get me wrong, I dig OSX above everything else, I just LOVE the OSX so no samsung for me, but I do see a chance in format. I'm not worried but I do notice a difference.

I truly hope Apple will come with something entirely new, but above all with something new that will be truly groundbreaking.

But as stated before, I'm not worried, both Samsung and Apple are making great smartphones. But Samsung is more positive in the news with funny (anti Apple) commercials and they succeed in creating this image that Apple isn't that cool these days. Again, it doesn't impresses me, I still like Apple products all tough it's time to release some serious new Mac Pro, but that aside, I still love OSX.
 
Now I am confused about what's the difference and target market of S4 and Note II?

Are they supposed to eat each other's pie?

If Note III released later.. How far can the screen made larger? Seriously.
 
Your points are completely valid, yet some of the responses here from the Android haters are rather amazing.

I can imagine you're amazed by it.

Ah well, I just don't understand the concept of 'hating' a brand. In my point of view it's waste of precious time. Just think about it, would it truly matter when I would write: I hate samsung, android is evil and bad!?

Having used both iOS and Android concurrently over the last few years I appreciate the pros and cons of each.

Same here, competition is good. I just hope to see Apple is more operating in a positive way by bringing jaw dropping products instead of becoming grumpy and come up with personal attacks towards the opponent. Don't bark at the competition but rather amaze the competition, that's the best way to leave your opponent behind i.m.h.o.
 
i'm with you last group of logical thinkers.

I don't get why people seem to have such vitriol whenever there's competition.

For me, if a device fits a particular need, and has a feature set I require, than I don't care if it's made by Samsung, apple, blackberry, nokia, or if it uses WP8, iOS, android or BBOS.

there seems to be an irrational attachment individuals get to their possessions and anytime someone doesn't like it, they go into a tizzy.

For one people. Stop throwing the word "innovation" around. it's clear that the vast majority of the people here these days do not have any clue what that word actually means. Stop using it. Just stop.

2nd, is it so damn hard to admit that a product might actually have a very large feature set taht others might have desire to use? If you don't have a need for it. Good, thats fine. Nobody says you HAVE to use them, or even buy that device. But to actually attack it as "crap" or "terrible product" because it doesn't fit into your own desires, is just ... a subjective bias opinion based on ignorance. So, A BAD opinion.

long gone are the discussions of old it seems where people would actually quantify why somethign wasn't of use to them. Now it's slinging mud and obscenities. The worst is the users who nickname these companies but have no basis to back up why they say things like "Crapple" and "Samesung". they just spout of these meaningless titles as if it gives some merrit to their statement. All it does is make you, look like an ignorant fanboy.

Another meaningless argument is this Plastic v Metal thing. When did suddenly "metal" mean better quality? did you know 10 years ago, it was the opposite? 'space age polymers' aka, plastics were the craze and metals were reserved to soda cans. :p

The simple fact is that both Plastics and Metals have advantages and dissadvantages when used in different circumstances. Neither one has a clear competitive advantage, especially in the smartphone industry. Plastics are more robust, have greater "flex", Return to their original shape when flexed, Spread impact better, and retain colouring and paint better with less prone to scratching. It also provides less interference with antennas and is lower weight. Metal on the other hand is "harder", has less flex, looks and feels nicer (subjective)

but both do have some considerable drawbacks as well. once plastic snaps, it breaks. it feels pretty bad when it's smooth and looks "cheap". Where Metal causes signal interference, ionodized metal can scratch fairly easily, and when torqued, will not easily return to original shape.

However, Neither products define a products build quality or "cheapness". it is entirely possible to have entirely plastic devices that are built to exacting standards of high quality merchandise, just as easily as it is to build Metal based devices to low quality standards.

I think the important thing in the market, that we all fail to recognise is that we have serious competition, where the companies are striving and driving eachother to produce better products regularly, so that we, the consumers can benefit from amazing choice.
 
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