If they were to add phone parts to the mini they wouldn't likely do a larger iphone. the ipad mini would be that model
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Samsung Announces New Flagship Galaxy S 4 Competitor to Apple's iPhone
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If they were to add phone parts to the mini they wouldn't likely do a larger iphone. the ipad mini would be that model
And that I suspect is what Phil was referring to when he said that this phone won't have the latest OS version
That's right... Samsung / Android is so crappy that Andy Ihnatko (Mac evangelist / long time Mac blogger) has just switched from iPhone to an S3...
Why I switched from iPhone to Android
I won't be comfortable until this thread goes over 1500 posts seeing as how the Galaxy S3 thread on here has 1341 posts: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1366626/
Good article. Best quote relevant to this thread is:
"We should all be thrilled that consumers can choose between these two highly-polished platforms. Theyre being produced with creativity and pride by two companies with sharply different philosophies that target different audiences. We should also be intrigued by Windows Phone, and curious about Blackberry 10, and hopeful that the Ubuntu On Phones project evolves into something great.
I can sense that this isnt getting through to a few of these folks, so Ill be blunt: If you give half a damn about which multi-billion-dollar corporation wins a totally made-up contest, then you need to drop acid and spend some time in an ashram."
My iPhone 5 on top of my SGS3, the S4 is slightly smaller than the S3 but even if it were the same size, it could hardly be classed as a giant, or are you comparing it to something of yours that you imagine as "giant" size?
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Excellent point! I would think that a consumer would be ecstatic to have the choice of several good phones and platforms.
And stayed up after hours. I think that says how much the big investors think that the new SG4 will further impact Apple's iPhone revenue. Not much.
I wager that AAPL will continue it's overall slide downwards that it has been on for the past 6 months. Once the Galaxy S4 is in stores and we see how well it sells, there could be a large drop in AAPL share price.
Or the SG4 could hit the stores and meet Samsung's expectations about as well as Surface RT did for MSFT (with a similarly huge ad budget). Time will tell which way.
The features I use and are worth it to me are:
Photo stream
iTunes Match
iMessage
The new features of the S4 are gimmicks. Now if Apple doesn't add live home screens, I would be disappointed because that is one thing I really thing would be useful on a phone.
Photo stream
iTunes Match
iMessage
The new features of the S4 are gimmicks. Now if Apple doesn't add live home screens, I would be disappointed because that is one thing I really thing would be useful on a phone.
What apple does with the iphone it does well, I'm not disputing that. I'm saying that its a very limited. Defend the IOS, if you like it and it works for you then go for it. Apple may be leading but compared to 3 years ago they are losing ground and will continue to with more options. I love apple, just not the Iphones any longer.
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When attending the introductory forums for incoming freshman at Lehigh University, I asked the head of the computer labs wether to buy a PC or Mac. He said that he expected Apple to be gone within a year, certainly no later than 2000. I wish I could ask him the same thing today.
When attending the introductory forums for incoming freshman at Lehigh University, I asked the head of the computer labs wether to buy a PC or Mac. He said that he expected Apple to be gone within a year, certainly no later than 2000. I wish I could ask him the same thing today.
When the iPhone first launched it was made because the cell phones in those days sucked, hard. Now, iOS exists for the sole purpose of getting you to your apps, hence the name Springboard. That's the real strength of the Apple ecosystem (apps) and one which Android still has yet to match.
Does it need a little love for the power users out there? Definitely, but for the average user it does what they want and it does it extremely well.
Most of the people I work with have Android phones. Why? Because they were cheaper. They complain about crashes from time to time or how it's a pain to do something. Some want an iPhone but they stick with their Android phones because they don't think they can afford one, even though the data costs are exactly the same. Out of all of them, only one loves hers, an HTC One. Then again, she's much more technical than the rest and I think it's a good fit for her.
*Note: I'm heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem (AirPlay w/AppleTV and Airport Express, tons of paid apps, iTunes Match [sorry, Google Music just isn't there yet], PhotoStream) but would love to tinker with Jellybean.
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I was cynical about Android myself, but I swapped my iPhone for a Galaxy Note II late last year, and I don't think apps are a problem any more.
Pretty much every app I used regularly on the iPhone I've managed to replicate on Android... very often with the exact same app. Some of the games I have now are Android only, and they're better than what I was seeing on iOS.
There's a couple of spaces where Android is poor. For really top-end apps (like Apples iWork/iMovie/Garageband suite) there's no equivalent. I own all those apps and I have them on my iPad... but truth be told I still head for a 'proper computer' if I want to do something creative - so I'm not missing them on my phone.
For music type apps, Android has also suffered from high latency. This is a fairly niche area - but the difference is quite large. A developer has recently fixed this problem though, so I'd expect a rapid catch up.
The problem for Apple isn't so much that Android is better (it's both better and worse, depending on what you want to do), but it's now 'fine'.
It's a perfectly sensible and viable alternative to iOS. From a hardware point of view it's also available in cheaper devices and in more capable devices.
For me, I'm not an Android fanboy... rooting for a billion dollar corporation is a mug's game. I'd switch back to iOS phones happily - but Apple has some way to go to tempt me back to their phones as a customer, and sadly I doubt that they'll do it.
Great response and one I agree with. However, it's the top-end apps is what I was talking about. You may go back to a computer for creative things but I simply don't anymore as a mouse/trackpad feel antiquated; I want to touch my computer! Those apps are so good for editing and sharing that it's a waste of time to wait for a computer to do it. It would be different if I was a Pro doing work of course but that's not who we're talking about. In the time I've had an iPhone 4, 4S, and 5 I've shared more edited photos and videos than I had from my birth up till then.
Another reason I stay with iOS and one that I alluded to was the entire ecosystem of hardware and software. There simply isn't a good alternative to AirPlay and an AppleTV/Airport Express that is compatible with Android. I was really interested in the Nexus Q but they scraped it.
If the sole reason most people are buying Android phones is because they're cheaper I really think those manufacturers are in trouble if Apple ever decides to come out with a new less expensive iPhone. "New" being the keyword as the older models that get dropped down in price aren't seen as the latest and greatest shiny thing that people apparently want.
I looked for it and thought it was behind a paywall. Apologies.
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Where did I say the phone doesn't have it? I said they aren't hyping it. Because they are too busy with showing off their fancy camera tricks etc.
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Not likely to happen at this point. Aside from the fact that Apple isn't likely to find it as universally useful to the point of being required by their core audience as you believe it would be, there's too much 'they are just copying' in such a system. After all, its basically just the windows 8 phone screen with some android live tabs in notifications tossed in for good measure
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Power users jailbreak.
I have a love-hate relationship with them. While I think they're fantastically coded, the limitations of the single screen environment (it's a PITA copying/pasting between different apps etc.) dulls their appeal. Apple's high charges for storage also push me away from considering photo/video editing on my iPad.
Here's another instance where Apple need to act quickly. Apart from AppleTV and a few high end partners, there's practically no industry support for Airplay (apparently the licensing costs are stratospheric from a consumer device point of view).
Miracast has taken a while to get going, but it's the open alternative to Airplay and it's in the latest version of Android. Because its licensing will be cheap/free it's likely to be just another tick-box feature for pretty much every smart TV out there (which is pretty much every TV these days!). Projected to be in over a billion devices in four years time.
You're assuming that iOS is more compelling than Android for the same price, and I don't think that's a safe assumption any more.
The smartphone has become people's #1 tech device. As long as Android is 'good enough' (and it's better than that), the appeal of different colours, designs, brands, images is going to be a difficult lure for Apple to resist. One size does not fit all.
It does dull their appeal but it's still better than having to find a computer to do that later. I'm so mobile these days that I'm almost never near a computer to do that stuff. Here's my workflow: shoot, edit, post, done all in less than a minute if I can and certainly by the end of the day.
Agreed and I wish that AirPlay was an open standard myself. That's why I was surprised that Google killed the Q. They had what would've been a really great alternative. Some of the decisions they make baffle me. I would love to read a book on inside Google years from now.
DLNA has existed for years but it freaking sucks. A good alternative would be great.
Interesting points all around. Thanks for being civil and using your brain. Definitely stuff to chew on.
Lol, some do. iOS has become good enough for most of the reasons I used to to not be worth the maintenance anymore. That and I really love OTA updates that jailbreaking destroys.
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Faults with the galaxy 4
Samsung bloatware (more crap built in than an impacted colon)
Plastics, build quality is shocking for a flagship model
Pentile, effective resolution is actually no where near as sharp as a true led
there is noting super about amoled it always looks jokey and weird
Quad or octa core? Why, are these android phones so badly optimised that they need 8 cores! Really!
Battery life, with and already massive battery that doesn't last Samsung is asking it to push an unnecessary amount of pixels too, expect battery life in the hours, worse than your net book.
Five inches! What the hell, why it seems like such a poor choice for a phone, I feel sorry for any woman who buys this phone and is expected to actually use it as a phone. There is zero benifit to increase its size, I mean we have the note already for stupid tech boys who only use their phone as a tablet to watch illegally downloaded films and wares.
Samsung may shift phones but they are making little profit on these cheap ass handsets and people are only really willing to part with pennies. These users don't buy anything and are looking for a bargin.
I hate to say it but I would rather be seen with an iPhone than Samsung. An iPhone says to everyone that you have cash and are successful like jewellery, watches or an expensive car, isheep are buying em for a reason. A Samsung still says you are probably a bit tight, think more is better and think you are an individual when you are actually more of a sheep than iPhone users. You also someone who is happy to buy knock offs rather than the real deal.
Sorry but samsungs have a stigma in society much worse than iPhones.
The galaxy 4 is a perfect example of how you can ruin a good phone that could have been great but is just a disaster.
Samsung bloatware (more crap built in than an impacted colon)
Plastics, build quality is shocking for a flagship model
Pentile, effective resolution is actually no where near as sharp as a true led
there is noting super about amoled it always looks jokey and weird
Quad or octa core? Why, are these android phones so badly optimised that they need 8 cores! Really!
Battery life, with and already massive battery that doesn't last Samsung is asking it to push an unnecessary amount of pixels too, expect battery life in the hours, worse than your net book.
Five inches! What the hell, why it seems like such a poor choice for a phone, I feel sorry for any woman who buys this phone and is expected to actually use it as a phone. There is zero benifit to increase its size, I mean we have the note already for stupid tech boys who only use their phone as a tablet to watch illegally downloaded films and wares.
Samsung may shift phones but they are making little profit on these cheap ass handsets and people are only really willing to part with pennies. These users don't buy anything and are looking for a bargin.
I hate to say it but I would rather be seen with an iPhone than Samsung. An iPhone says to everyone that you have cash and are successful like jewellery, watches or an expensive car, isheep are buying em for a reason. A Samsung still says you are probably a bit tight, think more is better and think you are an individual when you are actually more of a sheep than iPhone users. You also someone who is happy to buy knock offs rather than the real deal.
Sorry but samsungs have a stigma in society much worse than iPhones.
The galaxy 4 is a perfect example of how you can ruin a good phone that could have been great but is just a disaster.
And unlike Apple's bloatware, you can actually hide/delete it.
It's really not bad build quality.
Besides, plastic will soon be 'all the rage' when Apple starts using it, right?
True, but this is 1080p, so you probably have sharpness going spare.
You're wrong.
I think Samsung delivers their phones in 'super saturated' mode. Turn it back down to 'normal' and the display looks very realistic.
That's not how it works. There's 4 high speed cores and 4 very low power cores. You use one half of the cores or the other. By switching to low power, you save a lot of energy even compared to running the fast cores at lower speed.
See above. 8 cores should help out here. And I'm not sure that OLED has the same battery impact from higher pixel density screens as IPS (where you need to increase backlight power to compensate for the greater %age non-light-transmitting area on high res screens).
Try one. I didn't think it would work out, but I bought the 5.5 inch Note II and it's fine.
And that's bad for the consumer, how?
At least you're honest!
Which is why long-time Mac evangelists like Andy Ihnatko are switching?
No, that's just you.
It will sell in boat-loads, especially in Asia where Apple have been doing a great job annoying loyal iOS users by shipping devices with severely broken maps...