Let's face it,Apple watch looks like one of those $5 generic red LED watches from China..I'm not a fan of either watches,but on design aspect alone,this Samsung definitely beats Apple's ugly bulky watch for sure.
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Samsung Announces Round 'Gear S2' Smart Watch
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Dude wake up,Apple watch didn't sell nearly as much as they hoped for.it was a disaster of launch based on Apple's standards.ofcourse they will sell some and more from Samsung Sony etc,but that's not the point.Samsung and Sony,etc never really counted on smart watch budiness so much,not nearly as much as Apple.
it's a new product line and they were expecting at leadt iPad grade of success,everyone was,but it's not even close.you go to Apple stores and see..no body even wants to try them on,the Apple Watch corner is the quitest part of Apple stores.
No, I meant what I said, including the parts you cut. Apple tried to bridge utility and jewelry, but the later camp isn't impressed. I didn't say they're only concerned with the look, but if you look at their initial sales strategy ($17k gold editions sold through high end French salons) they really wanted this to impress the fashion conscious. What I see in the forums is that the "I have a collection of $30,000 watches" crowd doesn't like the design.
I do like it, but I shop at Apple stores and Best Buy-- not Paris or 5th Avenue. I was surprised to see Apple Watch for sale at Best Buy, but I think it's probably acknowledgement that their sweet spot is the utilitarian type. That's fine-- it's where the money is, but if they want to keep pushing for the three comma crowd they'll need to go to a round face.
I don't think that's why Samsung and others went round, mind you. I think they did it for the novelty. Apple doesn't go for novelty, but they do go for design.
Well, I'm willing to bet very few people on these forums could be considered up on the latest high-end fashions
There's a difference between being fashion conscious and wanting to show people you can afford an expensive watch.Google image search "tonneau watches" and see how many rectangular fashion watches there are. Round watches are pedestrian. The only thing that makes a round watch high end is what's on the face (jewels, visible gears, mother of pearl, gold numerals, etc.). And smartwatches don't have that.
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The only point of circular is for aesthetic reasons. If I was wearing a watch just for aesthetic reasons, just as jewelry I would get a nice mechanical watch.
True, that...Well, I'm willing to bet very few people on these forums could be considered up on the latest high-end fashions
Still, I think it's a bit of a stretch to think the same design that works for a sweaty jogger will also work for a state visit at the palace if only you change the band. If Apple wants to capture the snooty crowd, they're going to have to listen.
I lean the same way-- but if that's true of everyone then maybe there simply is no high end market for smart watches.
True, that...
Still, I think it's a bit of a stretch to think the same design that works for a sweaty jogger will also work for a state visit at the palace if only you change the band. If Apple wants to capture the snooty crowd, they're going to have to listen.
And what is the snooty crowd saying? Haven't heard from the snooty crowd yet, they certainly aren't on this forum.
I don't think Apple is interested in the crowd that can afford the $17k version. That was just a way to get buzz and put a luxury shine on the main watches. Lots of brands have an "out of reach" version for this reason. The most expensive version elevates all the others just a little.
People who can afford the $17k model have jewelry watches and swap them out frequently. They also have "people" who would do everything a smartwatch would do for them. They might buy the $17k WATCH for giggles but they don't care about the function of it. And simply making it round would add ZERO to the aesthetic value of it in the luxury watch world. Round isn't blingy. All the crap within and around the watch face does. The watch face is black most of the time. The only way to look blingy is to get a diamond-studded band.
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And yet it does. Try wearing a stainless steel with a milanese loop. I literally get compliments on how good it looks every week.
Lol, dude you wake up. Apple Watch has sold more units than the iPhone did when it first launched. Also sold more units than the iPad did when it first launched. It's exceeded their expectations. If the Samsung watch about to be on its 7th generation was soooo much superior then how is it only a fraction of Apple's sales that hasnt even been out for 6 months.
It's funny when proof is right in front of people they still claim it's selling like crap and no one wants the AW. Don't be so dense.
Nope, I posted an alternative click bait article that Mac Rumours could have used. And no, I did not read the digitimes report but rather read the report on the Phone Arena website I linked to which has the first sentance of:
The top court in Taiwan has ruled that Samsung stole trade secrets from TSMC.
So hence I said what I said. You seemed to have conveniently left out what was stated in the article I posted to.
LOL!!!
Your defense is a company whose founder dresses like Steve Jobs and steals his "One more thing" quote in presentations? That's seriously messed up. Take a look at their OS: http://www.cultofmac.com/291859/xiaomi-ios-7-ripoff/. Oh, but you say they're only "inspired" by other designs. Hilarious!
Yeah, those Chinese sure come up with good design ideas!
Or maybe there's a market for those who are more interested in utility than purely fashion.
Shame on me for thinking a watch that lasts for three days on one charge is much better than a watch that lasts for 18hrs.
And yes, I sleep with a watch on and always have. The only time it Leaves my wrist is to shower and to charge if I have a watch on that recharges. Some watches I own are solar powered.
Here I'll do you a favor and post the original headline of that story.
TAIWAN TOP COURT RULES IN FAVOR OF TSMC IN LAWSUIT AGAINST EX-R&D DIRECTOR
And here is what your source posted for page hits.
The top court in Taiwan has ruled that Samsung stole trade secrets from TSMC.
Tsmc has NOT sued Samsung at all over this,they are suing an ex employee!
You lead off with "or"', like it's an alternative view... I think that's what I've been saying-- am I missing a nuance?
There's clearly a utilitarian market. The question I'm not settled on yet is whether there's a high end fashion market, or whether geek chic is as far as it goes.
And I want to know who cares if it's "high fashion" or not? I can answer that. It's not. And I couldn't care less. Most high fashion is butt ugly. On purpose. So you know it's "high fashion". All high fashion gets boiled down to its basic elements before it reaches the mass market. The WATCH is specifically designed to be agnostic to fashion. It will never go out of style because it doesn't have a specific theme. That's why it's perfect. It goes with everything (with the right band, that is). The band is more definitive of a "personal style" and that's the easiest thing to customize. SMART! Besides, the watches in the article look like men's watches. Why would I want that?
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The hardware looks pretty good, at least in the picture. I don't know how well it would measure up against my Apple Watch. I've long discounted publicity photos as they can make even a Kia look good. It's nice to see they've solved the flat-tire look of the Moto360. I have to wonder about their OS, though. Why would they further fragment their software? They really need to unify behind one banner and stick with it.
Apple has gone out of their way to raid the high fashion business of some of their top people. They've launched the watch at some of the most exclusive boutiques in the world, including Milan, the center of the high fashion universe. They've gifted custom made sold gold link Editions to the likes of Paul Lagerfeld, one of the haute couture's illuminati ... it's absolutely ridiculous to say Apple doesn't care about fashion, or meeting that mercurial industry's metric for acceptance. So regardless of whether the market exists or not, Apple is courting it in a highly visible way. And to that end, Apple will almost certainly continue to update the watch with an eye toward gaining approval from the fashionistas, or eventually part company and go their own way.
Holy Moly!!! You're telling me Samasung designed and built the Apple Watch?...WOW had know idea.
I wear my 42mm Apple Watch to bed every night after charging from 9-10pm roughly. I use it for the silent alarm and to track my sleep with sleep pulse. Love it. Anyone with a spouse of significant other may run into issues where they hate hearing your alarm going off waking them up (if you get up at different times). I love the Apple Watch for the vibrating alarm - it is also less of a shock them some alarms.
Sleep Pulse is similar to other sleep trackers and it gathers your heart rate every 10 minutes as you sleep (direct from health data app) to graph your sleep. It's nice to see when I appear to have a dream or wake up versus deep sleep. Very nice.I can sleep trackers and other trackers coming out when native apps get access to the heart rate directly.