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Samsung Announces Thinner than iPad 2 Samsung 8.9 and 10.1 Inch Tablets
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competition is not a bad thing for us end users. I really liked what Honeycomb offered but I'm still very happy with my product. Apple tends to do one better than the usual catch up that many companies do.
Who else is for giving it a chance?
Who else is for giving it a chance?
Last time I checked this forum was still called MACrumors, not gadget rumors or mobile OS rumors. We are Apple fanboys and don't wish to discuss inferior products from other companies that try to just copy Apple.
heh Point taken... I just figured maybe one thread out of 200 might be tolerable
Careful buddy - if any of these youngsters look it up they'll get a glimmer of how old we are.
'Course I bought mine just a week ago at a yard sale
Guys, I know it's called "MACrumors". Does that mean that iOS is perfect and no one should discuss on things they've seen in non-Apple devices that they would like to see in iOS? I don't think so. Seems perfectly relevant to "mac". I also don't think that because I post in an iPad forum therefor I should implicitly adore iTunes and every other Apple product (as has been implied). I'm one of many, possibly the majority, iPad owners who purchased and enjoy the iPad *despite* it requiring the iTunes handcuff. I have no problem with iTunes as an option for those who want it, I just wish it weren't a requirement for me in order to use the world's best tablet.
I wish there was less "religion" styled commentary around here and more discussion about all aspects of the products, good and bad. Carouser, you consider this garbage, I don't and I believe others don't. Thankfully you can choose to ignore these threads and the problem is solved.
I wish there was less "religion" styled commentary around here and more discussion about all aspects of the products, good and bad. Carouser, you consider this garbage, I don't and I believe others don't. Thankfully you can choose to ignore these threads and the problem is solved.
I think you meet resistance because you write as though 'iOS is perfect (or not)' or 'this aspect of OS is good/bad' are objective questions. It's fine for you to say you would not like to have iTunes. I say that the tablet would be a mess if Apple made it capable of dragging and dropping media or accommodating other media players alongside iTunes. I get that people don't like using iTunes. What I don't get is that they think this is something which should and could be changed (it's Apple's prerogative and not an unreasonable one to tie software to hardware) and what sort of discussion is supposed to follow when it's posted over and over again. Having posted our opinions, I then encounter people, sometimes the same posters, talking about 'jihad this' and 'fanboy that' or equating 'reasoned disagreement' with 'blind approval of Apple'. That's the garbage that I can't ignore because it happens in every thread. All that's left is congratulating each other on their opinions, done in the guise of 'See! iOS does have clear faults or deficiencies (AKA my subjective dislikes)! If you don't admit this, you are a fanboy'. I hope this is clear.
Heh, so the statement "iOS is not perfect" is not an objective one? Maybe that's the root my issue with you and others.
Heh, so the statement "iOS is not perfect" is not an objective one? Maybe that's the root my issue with you and others.
Of course it's not objective. 'Perfection' is a normative concept evaluated according to a particular reference, and the reference at play in this case (and every other one) is a function of an individual user's needs and expectations. While needs and expectations can change, for some people iOS satisfies their wants and needs without disruption. Why is it not therefore 'perfect' for them at that moment?
EDIT: unless you want to say 'perfection is when it meets every person's needs and wants no matter how cockamamie they are' but then the statement 'iOS is not perfect' loses any force.
Fair enough. With a changing frame of reference then it would be hard to make an objective statement about anything. In this example I can say that I have not met a single person who would consider iOS "perfect", so I would still consider this about as objective as any statement can be. You feel differently, and I can live with that.
I'll give the 10.1 a look-see, especially at that price point. I know the display should be pretty good, it's the rest of the package that I am curious about, especially the TouchWiz skin over Honeycomb. From what I have seen, it looks ok. I worry about updates, as we know Samsung is slow.
I'm waiting to see if the backlight bleed issues are going to be fixed on the iPad2 before buying one, or the Samsung for that matter. I still think the ecosystem of iOS is still a little better (for me) and should better suit me once iOS 5 comes out. I like the apps better. I know Android has a long way to go as far as app content. I have an Inspire as my phone and I like it. That said, if Apple has an upgrade to the OS that puts a few features a little more in line with the competition, I'll switch back. I do miss my iPhone 4, but for work, I need the better notifications system. The rest of the lure of Android wore off after a couple of weeks. I grew tired of changing the way the clock looks.
Should be a good year for iOS and a good year for Android tablets too. The Xoom is great, but I prefer the slimmer profile of the iPad 2 or the forthcoming Samsung 8.9 or 10.1 tablets.
I'm waiting to see if the backlight bleed issues are going to be fixed on the iPad2 before buying one, or the Samsung for that matter. I still think the ecosystem of iOS is still a little better (for me) and should better suit me once iOS 5 comes out. I like the apps better. I know Android has a long way to go as far as app content. I have an Inspire as my phone and I like it. That said, if Apple has an upgrade to the OS that puts a few features a little more in line with the competition, I'll switch back. I do miss my iPhone 4, but for work, I need the better notifications system. The rest of the lure of Android wore off after a couple of weeks. I grew tired of changing the way the clock looks.
Should be a good year for iOS and a good year for Android tablets too. The Xoom is great, but I prefer the slimmer profile of the iPad 2 or the forthcoming Samsung 8.9 or 10.1 tablets.
Actually we can make plenty of objective statements (i.e. facts established through science). 'iOS is not perfect' (or the short slide to 'X is a flaw of iOS') are not those kinds of statement and remain opinion and should be treated as such, not turned into 'well a bunch of people have this opinion so it's fine to treat it as objective and anything which contradicts me doesn't matter because only a fanboy would say such a thing.'
Sorry, but by your strict definition based on frames of reference, "facts established through science" would also be subjective. Is the theory of evolution objective? Convince a creationist of that. I'm sure you think this is absurb as do I, which is precisely why I believe there is nothing subjective about the statement "iOS is not perfect".
This is getting a little out of control, but I'm having fun with it.
After Samsung gets finished announcing it, begins manufacturing it, and starts selling it, I can't help but wonder if you'll return here for support.
I am looking forward to see the HP tablet for those reasons as well as WebOS has a very polished UI on top of a great notification system and an excellent task switcher. I am really surprised how little hype WebOS gets and puzzled as to why Android gets all the anti Apple support. Not to mention this Samsung tablet will come out at about the same time as the HP one does.
You left out hardware encryption. Oops wasn't you, it was Google. Sorry, but as another poster stated, please change the 'we' to 'I' because I don't care for flash, 4G ( or any G), micro SD, or USB slot.
It's the stupidity of the comparisons. But hey at least you don't have to charge the new Samsung devices...
How about an intelligent comparison ? I am game for that.
Are you assuming that the only reason to jailbreak is to pirate apps? How about so that I can use my own apps without having to pay a $100 every year? Some jailbreak for customization. Others (myself included) will install the 'pirated' for testing purposes, and then delet the app and then purchase the app or move on to something else. Pirating apps is not the only reason to JB. You should try it, it is also completely legal in the USA.
It's the lack of thought that goes into the pro Android posts.
iTunes. All iOS devices since the 3GS have 256 bit hardware encryption. From what I gather the hardware key is tied to iTunes (in a round about way).