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My iPhone 5 lost 30% battery on my 45 minute commute in to work this morning while I was listening to a downloaded podcast and nothing else.

Yeah, it's amazing :|

I think what you would benefit from is when iOS 8 will let you track what is using your battery up. That's an extreme loss in a short time. Did the phone get hot too? Do you think there's something always running that's measuring GPS or accelerometer data?

I use an Android and since Ice Cream Sandwich you can track how much battery % each app uses. iOS needed this years ago but it's finally coming.
 
If the S5 doesn't have good battery life, what does that say about the iPhone?

I don't know, what does it say? The 5s was much better than the S4, perhaps the 6 will be a similar improvement over the S5.

This article:

http://techcrunch.com/2014/07/06/ch...will-now-block-dead-devices-at-some-airports/

Asks the same question:

"Questions left unanswered: Will the TSA have back-up chargers to test the most popular devices? How dead is dead? Does getting it to flash the “Your phone is too damned dead to turn on” icon count?? Forgetting your charger at home just became a lot more annoying."

It also means a lot more wall and power station huggers at airports!

Or increased sales of portable USB battery chargers. Of course, if *those* are dead, will they not be allowed on the flight? :)
 
I don't know, what does it say? The 5s was much better than the S4, perhaps the 6 will be a similar improvement over the S5.



Or increased sales of portable USB battery chargers. Of course, if *those* are dead, will they not be allowed on the flight? :)

Yes, the 5S beats the S4. But what does that have to do with the S5 and 5S comparison?
 
Yes. To focus on battery life is a dead end . You could focus on lag, updates and have arguments. Bottom line is choose the tick boxes that suit, end of story. Do IPhone users hug power points daily? Nup do we have lag? Nup. Can we update, yes.

ios does suffer from lag. Just search for ios lag and see the numerous results on this forum and elsewhere.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...th-apples-ios-71-but-overall-crashes-are-down

Android updates in a different way to ios. Look into Google Play Services.
 
My iPhone 5 lost 30% battery on my 45 minute commute in to work this morning while I was listening to a downloaded podcast and nothing else.

Yeah, it's amazing :|

That's nothing.
I lose about 1% of battery every 1-2 minutes when I use my Runtastic app.
 
Airport

I guess this only happen at the airport (all the scenes at the airport.) So i am okay...
 
as much as i like my iphone the battery could definitely do better, especially with LTE enabled.

these of you with 4s can't say anything since you guys don't have 4G radio in your phone, 4G drains battery like crazy, everytime i go to city i have to enable airplane mode just to have enough battery through out the night.

apple really needs to improve battery life, but given their priority for slim design i doubt a improved battery life is on their to do list.
 
Poor Samsung, very good at a multitude of products, but really so hell-bent on trying to prove why they are better without looking within and seeing that they are visionless followers waiting for someone else to lead the way. Most of the time they need to hyperbolize minor improvements in order to justify their existence as well.

Even in this battery thing was an issue (it's not), it wouldn't make them or their products stronger if they got ahead of it. Innovation is just not in the blood of that company.
 
But the difference is minute. You can only see it if you directly compare it to a phone running stock Android, which has a lot less stuff installed and going on the background than TouchWiz. Are you seriously saying a .1 millisecond lag in opening an app is a dealbreaker for you?

Personally I can't stand if the device legs, scrolling is not smooth, etc. My Note for instance was getting unbearable after a while. It was not only a lag. It was literally a second standstill at times. And colleagues of mine experienced similar things.

Caring about insignificant "lag" isn't something the average consumer will do either.

You are probably right about that. Maybe I am too picky. But I am rather satisfied with my LG G2 in this regard, especially compared to any Samsung device I have seen or used.

What build did you run? The nightlies are often buggy because, well, they're nightlies, but the milestone builds are usually pretty solid. I run nightlies on my S4 and even those are mostly solid.

I had the final builds and run only nightlies towards the end of the Note's life. Mostly I had camera crashes and problems with texting. Sometimes messages were truncated and the receiver would only receive a fraction of the message. It was bizarre. Then manual network settings couldn't be adjusted and saved. Which inhibited me from using once a local sim card on my holiday to save roaming coasts. I was seriously pissed that time.


First of all, I am not a Sammy fanboy, I got the S4 because it was the best phone around when I wanted an upgrade. I wanted the Nexus 5 really but it wasn't going to be released for another few months. So S4 with CyanogenMod it was.

I apologize for the using the word fanboy. Sorry, I shouldn't have done that. :eek:
 
Heavy? That statement is just ridiculous. If you can't lift 5 pounds then there's something wrong. My mother's tiny Pomeranian weighs more. Outdated technology? Yeah, who the hell needs Blu-Ray? It's only state-of-the-art (with 4K BD discs coming soon, the format isn't going away contrary to the nonsensical things you would have me believe) and while Pros would like to burn their discs and not have to carry around a bulky external drive to do so, they don't matter because they're not the unwashed masses! But hey! What's important in life is TEXTING. Text while you drive! Other people don't matter. You are the center of the Universe and "most" people (meaning today's youth since older people don't matter, of course) ENJOY texting while driving ( http://www.textinganddrivingsafety.com/texting-and-driving-stats/ )and why should some small thing like other people's lives matter to someone that is clearly only interested in what they want?



Maybe the entire computer is unnecessary since I doubt you know what a computer is actually normally used for and probably only use it to do social media anyway. I think you'd be happier with an iPhone. WTF would you want to carry around a bulky 3 pound monolith when you can carry around a 4 ounce texting machine?

It's a good thing companies like Samsung exist because they DO get it, which probably explains why Android now controls over 80% of the market and is still growing while Apple's share keeps dropping and is already below 20% and when it hits 10% the developers will start fleeing in droves just like in the 1990s with the Mac. And THEN it's only a matter of time before Apple is right back where it started before the return of Steve Jobs. Sadly, Steve won't be around to save Apple this time.

Catering to a single demographic is a good way to lose the market in the long run (and Apple's NEW market is the people that buy overpriced underwhelming BEATS headphones). Apple obviously thinks if it ditches all its Halo (Pro) software it'll be OK because only a small percentage of users are power users and/or professionals. Create computers for the unwashed MASSES, but PRICE them for the Elite (that statement alone describes Beats headphones to a "T"). THAT is what will kill Apple in the long run. If they want to serve the Elite, then they better get back to making Elite computers like they did in 2008. If they're going to make TOYS, then they better drop the price to $300 like all the other TOY MAKERS out there because without good software and proper hardware, Apple is little more than a gadget maker these days. Instead of a professional workstation with the things the Pros actually NEED, let's make an R2D2 trash can instead and price it out of the stratosphere so even the people that it does appeal to (which is not most professionals many of which already fled to Windows since Apple didn't bother with the Mac Pro for several years at a time) won't buy it because they can't afford it working at jobs that pay little more than minimum wage. That way few buy them and we can then write that computer out of the lineup as well. Go crApple go!

If you're working minimum wage, you can't afford any computer, not just a Mac Pro. Also you don't need to make that much to buy a $1000 Mac Book, which is superior to anything else in the price range (if you don't look at meaningless specs).

Kill Apple in the long run? Meanwhile my aapl stock is at an all time high.
 
bigger phone = bigger battery. so yeah S5 does have bigger better and longer battery life. So what? hahaha
 
Wow I had no idea folks were still bent over battery life especially in this modern age of smart phones across the board. The last time I had true realistic battery concerns was back when I had Nokia candy bar phones, Palm Treo's and Blackberry's. The power of the media is real....
 
I personally don't like Android as an O/S.

I'm not saying it's rubbish/inferior/etc, I just don't like it (I'm also not a fan of Samsung's plasticy phones).

However, if the best they can do to tempt me (as an iPhone owner) is offer me "better" battery life, by giving me a mode that cripples the phone and a changeable battery, then they'll never get my business.

In honesty, I don't think they'll ever get my business due to me not liking the phones and the O/S, but I don't think I'd class myself as 'Joe Public' when it comes to buying tech and maybe the battery thing will convince people to switch (although I doubt it).

I think Samsung must be really worried about the iPhone 6 and quite how many handsets it will sell.

I really think the 6 could be a game changer like the 4 and because of that attract a lot of Galaxy owners back to an iPhone and at the same time create a lot of new customers for Apple, due to the undoubted hype and buzz it will create (unlike the Galaxy S5, which I believe has fallen short in terms of sales expectations).
 
they do sell battery cases fro the iphone while still maintaining a smaller phone than the s5. if battery is that important to you there are solutions. i don't see the big deal.
 
Interchangeable battery? 1997 wants its innovation back.

And what is the downside of a replaceable battery? I love my iPhone, but it would be a far better phone with a replaceable battery and the whole issue with battery life would be nullified if you could replace the battery. At the point when they develop a battery that lasts at least 72 hours with usage, then you wouldn't need a replaceable battery.

The main reason why the iPhone doesn't have a replaceable battery is that Jobs/Ive didn't want a "crack" in the back of the case. Isn't that a ridiculous tradeoff?

The fact is that sometimes we do take steps backwards and the lack of a replaceable battery in a phone is one of them. Also, Apple making it impossible for end-users to replace the battery and add memory to laptops is another. I have to give up my laptop for days so Apple can replace the battery, when they made this a 20-second task in older laptops is progress? I don't think so.
 
And what is the downside of a replaceable battery? I love my iPhone, but it would be a far better phone with a replaceable battery and the whole issue with battery life would be nullified if you could replace the battery. At the point when they develop a battery that lasts at least 72 hours with usage, then you wouldn't need a replaceable battery.

The main reason why the iPhone doesn't have a replaceable battery is that Jobs/Ive didn't want a "crack" in the back of the case. Isn't that a ridiculous tradeoff?

The fact is that sometimes we do take steps backwards and the lack of a replaceable battery in a phone is one of them. Also, Apple making it impossible for end-users to replace the battery and add memory to laptops is another. I have to give up my laptop for days so Apple can replace the battery, when they made this a 20-second task in older laptops is progress? I don't think so.

It's more innovative if the Apple fanboys get told what to like.
 
Personally I can't stand if the device legs, scrolling is not smooth, etc. My Note for instance was getting unbearable after a while. It was not only a lag. It was literally a second standstill at times. And colleagues of mine experienced similar things.

You are right that older Sammy devices get slowed down with newer updates. I know someone with an S3 that lags noticeably right now. But a new Samsung doesn't lag in a way that's noticeable in my experience and old iPhones are full of lag too. Lag on old devices is to be expected.

You are probably right about that. Maybe I am too picky. But I am rather satisfied with my LG G2 in this regard, especially compared to any Samsung device I have seen or used.

I'm glad you're happy with your device of choice, I'm looking into potentially getting an LG for my next phone. More likely to wait for the next Nexus though, which will also be an LG in all likelihood :D

I had the final builds and run only nightlies towards the end of the Note's life. Mostly I had camera crashes and problems with texting. Sometimes messages were truncated and the receiver would only receive a fraction of the message. It was bizarre. Then manual network settings couldn't be adjusted and saved. Which inhibited me from using once a local sim card on my holiday to save roaming coasts. I was seriously pissed that time.

That's a shame, did you try troubleshooting it? Doing a full wipe and reflash including all caches, trying flashing the ROM from a different memory source, etc? Most of the time when I have had buggy ROMs in the past it was down to dodgy SD cards screwing things up.

I apologize for the using the word fanboy. Sorry, I shouldn't have done that. :eek:

That's cool, thanks for being reasonable :)
 
And what is the downside of a replaceable battery?

Heavier, thicker device limited to certain materials and more restriction on battery placement. Minor issues regarding dealing with a removable cover and retail space. Probably a few other things.

The main reason why the iPhone doesn't have a replaceable battery is that Jobs/Ive didn't want a "crack" in the back of the case. Isn't that a ridiculous tradeoff?

Source?
 
Also, Apple making it impossible for end-users to replace the battery and add memory to laptops is another. I have to give up my laptop for days so Apple can replace the battery, when they made this a 20-second task in older laptops is progress? I don't think so.

Redesigning the internals of the laptop in order to fit a larger/sectioned battery than can last twice as long as the old batteries is definitely progress. Ram soldering is the new normal for ultrabooks across the board, not just Mac's. Is it convenient to be able to upgrade ram? Sure, but I will sacrifice that for a thinner and lighter machine with much better battery life.
 
I think Samsung must be really worried about the iPhone 6 and quite how many handsets it will sell.

I really think the 6 could be a game changer like the 4 and because of that attract a lot of Galaxy owners back to an iPhone and at the same time create a lot of new customers for Apple, due to the undoubted hype and buzz it will create (unlike the Galaxy S5, which I believe has fallen short in terms of sales expectations).

Ooohh..,

Samsung predicts massive profit decline, blames slumping smartphone sales...

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...ofit-decline-blames-slumping-smartphone-sales
 
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Aren't you contradicting yourself? You don't want to carry around spare batteries but you carry a portable battery pack? That's like saying that you're not gay but I saw you get married to the same sex. ;)

The key word was "IF" I was going to..

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I also assume the last thing you would want to do if your battery fails, and they do even in the iPhone, is easily replace it yourself?

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Worked perfect didn't it?

Last time I was in the US I noticed the wall hugger thing a lot more than I had seen before.

Ya at the remote chance something happens to the battery I would just take it into any one of the many Apple stores around the world. Yes I know you can only take your samsumg into best buy.
 
I think you have gone off the deep end.

But if you set up a table on the corner of a busy street in Manhattan and you have a 2008 MBP next to a 2013 MBP and you ask random people to play with them and select which is better, I guarantee MOST people would pick the machine that is lighter, has a better display, and is noticeably faster in performing tasks and that is the 2013.

I never said anything about comparing the speed of a modern machine versus and older one. I was only speaking of the better expansion and port design. Obviously, the CPU/GPU need upgraded over time as do the USB ports, etc. The thing is that they could easily compromise by making a consumer machine and a Pro machine (sound familiar before they decided to call "all" Macbooks "Pro" machines when they are not even close to equal)? The point is they could make a video editing workhorse machine with built-in Blu-Ray drive for small businesses that do mobile video work and burn copies for clients, etc. Obviously, such a built-in drive would be handy for other people as well. Another MODEL could forgo the drive and be lighter and more portable. In fact, the old 17" MBP model was great for video and audio work where an external monitor was impractical, but the extra screen space helped and it had lots of room for extra ports, a built-in drive, etc. They ditched it. If Samsung released one, how much do you want to bet Apple would bring it back? Apple used to say NO ONE wanted a larger smart phone. They were talking about making an even smaller iPhone in the rumors (I'm 6'2" and have large hands; I dislike the original size as it was; smaller would have killed it off entirely for me). So Samsung goes out and releases larger models and they sell like hotcakes. Suddenly larger is better for Apple too. :rolleyes:

Apple doesn't ASK what its consumers want. They have traditionally (via Steve Jobs) said they don't CARE what consumers want. They know better than us what we want. The problem is when they're wrong, they're really wrong and it's already cost them market share. While the money is good, shareholders don't seem concerned about market share, but that 10% barrier is real (as Macs have shown in the past) and developers will leave when they feel it's not worth their time/effort for such a tiny share of the market. Apple should be doing everything it can on all fronts to improve their market share for both Macs and iOS devices. More market share for the consumer means more software will be available. At 20%, Macs used to get most of the major games and packages available. At 4% they got hardly anything. This is not something people or Apple should forget.

The thing is Apple USED to make more diverse models. Not only were there regular Macbooks with fewer features and lower prices, but the Macbook Air came into being as the lighter, more portable easy-to-carry model. Now the differences between the regular Macbook Pro and the Macbook Air are so trivial that I see no reason for the AIR to even exist any longer. Apple used to talk about cannibalizing sales, but why would I want a less powerful Air when the more powerful Pro isn't much heavier or thicker? It makes no sense. The machines are all too similar.

Apple is not going to keep making heavier machines with features that many users no longer need just to appease a few old school users. Just like any

It's not about old school. It's about professional features for those that need them. There are plenty of blade servers for sale by other companies. Apple chooses not to compete and in so doing hand the entire market permanently over to non Macs. This made more sense in the days that Apple was a relatively small/poor/going bankrupt company. It makes no sense to give ground away when you're the #1 tech company on the planet. It makes no sense to not have enough developers to do all your projects concurrently rather than continually falling behind or having buggy releases due to not hiring more people to handle it. Some things Apple does are just plain odd. Money isn't the end-all flag for "does everything right", after all. Business decisions impact more than the next couple of quarters. By the time the stock reflects the problems, it's possibly too late to address many of them.

I more or less agree that Beats are a bit overrated. I've tried them and while they sound good, they are a bit over priced for what they are. Apple purchasing Beats however was a great idea. I was standing in Best Buy a couple of months ago looking at Mac's and there were about 15 people standing around the Mac display while there were crickets at the Window's displays. There were two young boys (couldn't have been more than 7 or 8 years old) that were arguing over who was going to get their pair of Beats first. When I was 7 or 8, I was playing baseball outside, I didn't know what a computer even was.


Standing in line and being able to afford them (or your parents) are two different things. Keep in mind that the Swatch used to sell like hotcakes too. Low quality merchandise that sells based on some rapper's popularity is not a good long term business goal, IMO. Having the best quality profit is a much better method. Like I said, Grado and Sennheiser much better reflect Apple's current market base and quality expectations than Beats. Either would have been a better purchase. They could have paid Katy Perry or Ice Cube or some other popular artist to market their headphones. Sticking someone's name on a device that they did not create and had nothing to do with technologically speaking is not hard to do. It was "Beats" before it was "Beats by Dre". What changed? Nothing changed other than the nameplate. Dre had nothing to do with those headphones but marketing. He's a rapper and a business man, not an inventor of headphones. At the end of the day, Apple is stuck with inferior quality headphones at high prices that will stop selling the same day people realize they're not worth it. I hope they work to improve the quality level of the equipment in the long run, at least.
 
I personally don't like Android as an O/S.

I'm not saying it's rubbish/inferior/etc, I just don't like it (I'm also not a fan of Samsung's plasticy phones).

However, if the best they can do to tempt me (as an iPhone owner) is offer me "better" battery life, by giving me a mode that cripples the phone and a changeable battery, then they'll never get my business.

In honesty, I don't think they'll ever get my business due to me not liking the phones and the O/S, but I don't think I'd class myself as 'Joe Public' when it comes to buying tech and maybe the battery thing will convince people to switch (although I doubt it).

I think Samsung must be really worried about the iPhone 6 and quite how many handsets it will sell.

I really think the 6 could be a game changer like the 4 and because of that attract a lot of Galaxy owners back to an iPhone and at the same time create a lot of new customers for Apple, due to the undoubted hype and buzz it will create (unlike the Galaxy S5, which I believe has fallen short in terms of sales expectations).

Seen a bit of chatter about the LG G3 ( is that the correct model?) Interestingly, those keen on it are glad to offload the S4/5

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I personally don't like Android as an O/S.

I'm not saying it's rubbish/inferior/etc, I just don't like it (I'm also not a fan of Samsung's plasticy phones).

However, if the best they can do to tempt me (as an iPhone owner) is offer me "better" battery life, by giving me a mode that cripples the phone and a changeable battery, then they'll never get my business.

In honesty, I don't think they'll ever get my business due to me not liking the phones and the O/S, but I don't think I'd class myself as 'Joe Public' when it comes to buying tech and maybe the battery thing will convince people to switch (although I doubt it).

I think Samsung must be really worried about the iPhone 6 and quite how many handsets it will sell.

I really think the 6 could be a game changer like the 4 and because of that attract a lot of Galaxy owners back to an iPhone and at the same time create a lot of new customers for Apple, due to the undoubted hype and buzz it will create (unlike the Galaxy S5, which I believe has fallen short in terms of sales expectations).

I cannot see the 6 being a game changer, it will just have the same ol incremental upgrades. Like the Galaxys, especially the 5 which was very underwhelming.

iPhone 6 be bigger, but form factor much bigger than other 4.7, 5.5's
Sapphire screen, little use to me
Faster SOC, cool, but no biggie
Better camera, cool

Much more to look forward to with iOS8
 
If you're iPhone battery isn't lasting as long as a Samsung, you're obviously holding it wrong!
 
Ya at the remote chance something happens to the battery I would just take it into any one of the many Apple stores around the world. Yes I know you can only take your samsumg into best buy.

Best Buy? Not hard to find Samsung batteries and there isn't even a Best Buy in my country.
 
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