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Toyota have/had an add where they ridicule the Outback by making it look untrendy and for tree hugging hippies, but the only spec where they were able to say the Venza is truly 'better' is that it has more rear headroom! In every other stat the Outback equals or betters the Venza.

In response Subaru have an advert that simply focuses on how a family walked away from an Outback even though it looks like it's already been through the crusher.

Samsung is Toyota - look how we're better
Apple is Subaru - look how good our product and I'm not going to spend money giving my competitor screen time.
 
Considering the Galaxy Note commerical with the annoying voice over featuring LeBron, this commerical isn't that bad.

I'll probably never fully like a commerical from Samsung, but competition is good for us, the consumer.
 
That's funny, because I've sent plenty of emails and looked up things in safari while on a facetime call. Leave it to Samsung to lie and their sheep to believe it.

Looking at 3 screens at the same time or switching between screens? If the former, I would like to do that on my iPad, could you guide me through it please.
 
'My Kindle can't do that', 'books'

Yes because a £45 e-reader compared to a £800 tablet is fair...

LOL. Yeah, I can't believe Samsung stooped that low to compare their pricey tablet to a cheap ebook reader. And that lady could have shot back a worthy retort: "well, my battery lasts weeks instead of hours, I can read books outdoors, and with the money I saved I can afford these overpriced lattes..bee-yotch!"
 
Probably already covered ground...

...but I didn't want to read the entire thread :)

Multitasking
Having more than one app on the screen on a tablet is not a good solution. Not enough screen real estate to make it worthwhile. All that needs to happen is for the iPad to offer true background multitasking with the current full screen app structure. This would require a minimum of 2GB of RAM, which the next iPad should ship with in any case. Then I could just four finger swipe over to my report during the video conference, mail it, and then swipe back, to use the example in the ad (Yes I am aware you can already do this particular use case:))

File System
Don't care if it is an App. Call it Finder. Make it the only place both inhouse and 3rd Party apps on the iPad/iPhone can save files. Each app creates its own folder, and you can add your own. This way you can use Finder if you want, but otherwise everything appears to function exactly the same as before.

Multiple User Accounts
Especially for the iPad. With capacities up to 128GB these are becoming devices that can handle multiple user accounts with individual settings, email accounts, Apple ID's, etc.

Do these three things with iOS in the next couple of years, and the iPad is now a proper replacement for a traditional PC.
 
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And you think that Samsung's attacks aren't "very real issues"? Every single one of their claims is factually true, albeit perhaps exaggerated in some cases. (That's the nature of marketing.) Whether they're of importance to you specifically is another issue altogether.


Respectfully, I spent many years doing market research—and I can tell you that this kind of marketing is, in fact, very effective. Market share is often best increased through contrast pieces, especially when there's a dominant competitor with a well-established brand in the market. I can also tell you that these ads—like most any ads you see—were the product of extensive testing. Multi-million dollar campaigns don't just end up on TV without testing. Sometimes the testing is done poorly, but it's at the very least done.


The whole reason I have no interest in an iPad is precisely that I can't really multitask on the thing. So, once again, you're overlaying your personal preferences to the entire population. That, my friend, is a marketing folly.

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There's no need to "move on" when people act like Apple's high and mighty in the same breath as they criticize Samsung. Moreover, those ads were highly effective and were recognized as such. It's simply smart advertising—for Apple then, and for Samsung now.

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Your biased opinions of Apple and Samsung are leading you to call the former classy and the latter trashy. I suspect that if we swapped the ads and the brands, you'd still be calling Apple classy and Samsung trashy. The notion that because there's no one trying to "advocate" for one of the competitors in the form of a parody is simply coming up with a contrived excuse to rationalize your biased perspective.

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I don't see these particular commercials as bashing the end user. I agree that some prior Samsung commercials have done that, though—as did some of the recent (and lousy and fortunately since-then canned) Apple commercials. And as for the spin, there was definitely some exaggeration—or at least unsupportable claims—in the Mac vs PC ones. There were 66 commercials in total, with claims like "I'm better" and "it's easy".

I won't disagree that those commercials were "cuter" than Samsung's, but they certainly had spin.

Mostly I'm just annoyed at the lack of objectivity here. I strictly use Apple stuff, and I have since the late 1980s. I've never owned a PC other than for work stuff. But c'mon people.

Sorry my mistake, I thought I made it clearer. For this particular commercial, I agree, it was not bashing the end user, but past ones have. I honestly did not see those recent Apple commercials you mentioned (I believe you're talking about the Genius guy running around helping "dumb" people?). Luckily they were short lived and hopefully it was because Apple realized it made it seem like they were saying people were dumb! BUT.....you are right, Apple has put some of those commercials out too.

In the 66 Mac Vs. PC commercials, the main point that came up over and over again, was the fact that it was just easier to use a Mac, right out of the box, and I think that is true.....for the average user?

I wasn't offended by this Samsung commercial, but at times it was like pitting a Lamborghini vs a Ford!
 
Having more than one app on the screen on a tablet is not a good solution. Not enough screen real estate to make it worthwhile.

Not so. Samsung recently launched a 12.2" Tablet. I was playing with it the other day and it would be very easy/useful to have a split screen with 2 apps.
 
Hilarious. I'm not a big surface fan personally, but to put the ability to use a keyboard and mouse as a negative is terrible IMO. Thank god for having a real OS for the my business and personal needs.

Yeah. Lack of pen is also awful according to Samsung. Sales say more though... I prefer Surface tablets to Galaxy stuff.
 
I get that business is about competition, but really? Samsung should should focus on advertising it's own products and cut this ridiculousness. If you believe your product is better let it stand on it's own. Mud slinging should be beneath them, but apparently it's not.
 
The thing about the Mac / PC ads, is that they were lighthearted and the end user was never the brunt of the joke - just the OS itself (although they were humanised) You could laugh at 'PC' because he was a parody.

In the same way that those very short lived Apple genius adverts belittled the potential customer, these and many other Samsung ads simply insult users.

And the smug woman at the end of this ad is infuriating :p

Are you kidding, getting a short fat nerd to represent the pc and a thin hip teenager to represent the mac totally insulted all pc users. Apple is way worse than anybody in these ads.
 
I'm not sure why Samsung thinks it's "beneficial" to have your chat app and your other app open simultaneously. On an iPad that app would still run in the background and you could swap over and send the file. Do Samsung people require a visual confirmation that they are still in the call less panic ensues?
 
Are you kidding, getting a short fat nerd to represent the pc and a thin hip teenager to represent the mac totally insulted all pc users. Apple is way worse than anybody in these ads.

Every PC owner I know is either short, fat or both. Every mac owner I know is hip and trendy. So spot on! :)
 
That's funny, because I've sent plenty of emails and looked up things in safari while on a facetime call. Leave it to Samsung to lie and their sheep to believe it.

Not really a lie, is it. Omission at best.

Samsung's U.S.P. here is that you can do both on the screen at the same time. With the iPhone, you have to switch out of one app and into another.
 
"Your e-reader is just for books?

My tablet does everything AND reads books. In fact I just read a novel on my backlit Samsung and can still use one eye!"

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I'm not sure why Samsung thinks it's "beneficial" to have your chat app and your other app open simultaneously. On an iPad that app would still run in the background and you could swap over and send the file. Do Samsung people require a visual confirmation that they are still in the call less panic ensues?

There are other useful use cases. Having both a word processing doc open side by side to a slide doc - so you can copy/paste easily

Or you can have two side by side instances of SalesForce open if you wanted to compare information and/or copy/paste among them

Task switching is not the same as having multiple apps open on a screen.

I am not advocating Samsung's usability - but could you imagine if what you did on your iMac worked the same way as on your iPad. You'd never use an iMac.
 
It's getting rather boring now that everyone keeps bashing each other. While it's certainly a valid way to advertise, it can just make you look bad as well. It's a freaking race to who can make a 538275239875639257375 core piece of paper while bashing the heck out of each other.
 
The "facts" in the ad being true or not does not change the fact that this is a great ad for mr and mrs anyone who does not know tech or frequent sites such as these.

The ad is no bitchy or condescending, makes comparisons of products (or illudes to) and has a great ending.

Kudos to the ad firm who designed it.
 
Not so. Samsung recently launched a 12.2" Tablet. I was playing with it the other day and it would be very easy/useful to have a split screen with 2 apps.

I am well aware of that and I fully acknowledge that it is a matter of opinion, and that I have prioritized my opinion in my post. But that is how I use my Mac as well. I swipe between full screen apps or CMD-TAB back and forth all day long on my MacBook Air. I honestly can't remember a time I had two different apps open side by side on the same desktop/screen. I remember when I used to use Excel as more than a glorified calculator I used to have two workbooks open side by side (unnecessary when you use Numbers).

And I fully realize that this could just be me, but I've found it to be very efficient and productive.

Also, it might work for a 12.2" tablet, but I personally wouldn't want to carry anything larger than 10" as a tablet. It just becomes much more a stay at home device at that size. Notice how huge the Samsung looked in the ad? Wonder how that multi-app function is to use on their 8.4" model? Or even the the 10.1"...
 
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Why is it that every time Samsung makes an ad, it's "news" on this site? Along with the latest Flappy Bird developments.

Enough. I'm heading out, later.
 
Not so. Samsung recently launched a 12.2" Tablet. I was playing with it the other day and it would be very easy/useful to have a split screen with 2 apps.

Easy to have two apps on screen. Just a bitch to carry around.
 
I am well aware of that and I fully acknowledge that is is a matter of opinion, and that I have prioritized my opinion in my post. But that is how I use my Mac as well. I swipe between full screen apps or CMD-TAB back and forth all day long on my MacBook Air. I honestly can't remember a time I had two different apps open side by side on the same desktop/screen. I remember when I used to use Excel as more than a glorified calculator I used to have two workbooks open side by side (unnecessary when you use Numbers).

And I fully realize that this could just be me, but I've found it to be very efficient and productive.

Fair point but in the example shown with a video call and app open at the same time I can see the benefit of that.
 
I didn't see any bashing just an explanation of the differences between the two. I'm not either companies target market though so maybe that changes things.
 
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