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Samsung Cites Kubrick's '2001' Film as Prior Art Defense Against Apple's Injunction Request
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You're obviously not an inventor or designer are you
People stealing hard working peoples idea's is exactly what has to stop.
What innovation has Samsung contributed to phone's and tablets ... hell three years later they still can't get phones right even with the iphone to copy from.
Your post is ignorant.
and your post isn't?
Perhaps Kubrick should have patented it or trademarked it. Otherwise, this seems pretty baseless. Lockheed and Boeing stole ideas clearly from "Journey to the Moon" and this is why Colt hasn't developed their laser pistol as well - to heck with buying patent rights from Universal pictures and the 1936 "Flash Gordon".
They are really reaching now.
They are really reaching now.
who says that it is not coming. They could just start showing old examples but 2001 is the oldest just to start showing that this was a clear solution way back when. Star Trek TNG and ENT could be next.
Why didn't Samsung release any tablets or smartphones before Apple?
According to Samsung's defense, they got the ideas for these products from Star Trek and 2001.
Nothing stopped Samsung from invent these products before Apple. But they didn't.
I respect Samsung's products. They have the best alternative to Apple today. Both tablet and smartphone.
I only wish that Samsung didn't abuse its position as supplier to Apple and use at least different colors on the icons that was inspired by iOS.
According to Samsung's defense, they got the ideas for these products from Star Trek and 2001.
Nothing stopped Samsung from invent these products before Apple. But they didn't.
I respect Samsung's products. They have the best alternative to Apple today. Both tablet and smartphone.
I only wish that Samsung didn't abuse its position as supplier to Apple and use at least different colors on the icons that was inspired by iOS.
Well, let's be fair. They've only been working on them since 2001 and they did have a rampant on-board computer fighting them the whole way.
Then there was the case of the kit car that was a replica of the Ferrari Daytona.
Ferrari filled suit against the company manufacturing them. The suit was based on the "look" of the kit. It was very accurate. Ferrari won.
Today, the kits are being made again. Of course it is thirty plus years later.
Anyone have Newton? Apple's first tablet.
Ferrari filled suit against the company manufacturing them. The suit was based on the "look" of the kit. It was very accurate. Ferrari won.
Today, the kits are being made again. Of course it is thirty plus years later.
Anyone have Newton? Apple's first tablet.
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a round edged and thin device with a clear surface has nothing to do with innovating or protecting ur "art". they just use a stupid patent system that shouldnt allow such vage describtions. they r just being anal bc its samsung.
oh and claiming every samsung phone is bad is just stupid talk, ever tried the samsung galaxy s 2? my iPhone 4 feels like a slow duck compared to it (givin the dual core no surprise)
entatlrg said:
You're obviously not an inventor or designer are you
People stealing hard working peoples idea's is exactly what has to stop.
What innovation has Samsung contributed to phone's and tablets ... hell three years later they still can't get phones right even with the iphone to copy from.
Your post is ignorant.
a round edged and thin device with a clear surface has nothing to do with innovating or protecting ur "art". they just use a stupid patent system that shouldnt allow such vage describtions. they r just being anal bc its samsung.
oh and claiming every samsung phone is bad is just stupid talk, ever tried the samsung galaxy s 2? my iPhone 4 feels like a slow duck compared to it (givin the dual core no surprise)
Yes. a phone head piece and the color green has been used for the answer button on cell phones since forever, did you know there were cell phones before the iPhone?
The only distinct feature Apple contributed to that icon is the striping and Samsung doesn't use that.
Maybe they didn't have to, but using gears to represent settings and configuration is standard and used by basically every GUI, not just by Apple and Samsung
Using real world counterparts to represent something is not an invention by Apple
Using nature motifs and flowers in particular in photography related stuff is not something Apple started
Two joined 8ths are probably the most common use of notes to represent music and audio. Don't know if two joined 8ths or a single 8th is the most used
Is also commonly used, so I guess some one else should've sued Samsung for that then
As I've explained; no more than Apple ripped off pre-existing conventions with their UI
This argument has no stance in legal battles. If that movie actually made that product and sold it then Apple could have been in trouble, but it's a movie. Things in movies can't be patented.
That was a copyright case, rather than a patent dispute.
Ferrari copyright their designs so that knockoffs can't be made, the same way Apple successfully killed off the Mac clone business.
That said, copyrights and patents expire, and once they have, anyone can use them.
Ideas in the general case are not patentable. Science fiction does not constitute prior art against a defined method or system for accomplishing something. The only question that remains is with regards to design patents. I don't know if you must have a working functioning unit in your claimed form factor in order to obtain a design patent. If that is the case, then science fiction does not constitute prior art. If, however, design patents amount to nothing more than a concept drawing of what you want to do without a working functioning model within the physical constraints of that form factor, then I would think that science fiction could be used as prior art against design patents.
Of course, we are not even talking about design patents here, but rather the EU equivalent which is a "community design registration".
Anyway, that said, Universal cannot hold patent rights to a laser pistol they never invented -- because they never had a functioning device or a defined method or system for implementation for it. You can only patent a specific way to do something, not the idea of it. Thomas Edison did not invent the incandescent light bulb. It existed before him -- the only problem was that they burned out very quickly. People had the idea of having a long-lasting incandescent light bulb, but that idea was not patentable. Edison patented the specific means of manufacturer for an incandescent light bulb that would be long-lasting (which I believe involved housing the filament in a near-vacuum to prevent it from burning out quickly).
So if someone invents a ligthsaber they can't patent it? How about a time machine made from a Delorian? Wait... Star Trek had those communicators, right? Should all cell phone patents be thrown out?
This was either brilliant by Samsung or pretty stupid. Personally I think it's a bit of a reach but if they win this argument I think it'll signal a flood of patents being thrown out.
This was either brilliant by Samsung or pretty stupid. Personally I think it's a bit of a reach but if they win this argument I think it'll signal a flood of patents being thrown out.
That story reminded me of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkuOuxRD1Bc
go to 5:20 for the relevant part. NSFW language.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkuOuxRD1Bc
go to 5:20 for the relevant part. NSFW language.
So Kubrick produced a working tablet that could be purchased and used?
Didn't think so.
Nonsense.
Thats pure speculation on the part of the director/writer/producer, whatever. I think the definitive needs to come from the original people that designed the set or scene.