Samsung Debuts New $1,599 ViewFinity S9 5K Display to Compete with Apple's Studio Display

[spcopsmac21]

yes, but still..people complain the 5k Apple is too much when the plastic 4k Samsung display was $1200..now at 5k..not so much
I bet if you search for Apple display im sure you can find somewhere under $1599
Bottom line is at same quality...the price difference vanished

In a year this will be $999 new. Apples will not. Samsung always launches their prices to directly compete in their higher tiers. But after they make back their initial investment they lower the price and it’s more affordability from then on out.
Apple wouldn’t dare lower the price. That’s the point. Samsung launched this at the same price point, with way more features to entice the apple buyer. This display is a no brainer for people with $1500.00
The apple display, not so much.

 

[spcopsmac21]

Well that will first require waiting for the release to see whether Apple actually normalizes a $3500 headset for Apple. And if that works, it will most likely require the “everyone else” to match Apple’s features, if they want to match their price. So I’m not clenching just yet.

The $3500 headset will be praised to the moon and back. But $3500 won’t be the new normal. Because that’s just pricing 99% of humanity out of apples VR ecosystem.
Apple tried to do it with the iPad pricing and they soon figured out people refused to buy a $800 tablet. Which is why they adjusted the iPads many models and made much MUCH more affordable iPads.
I assume the same will happen with the headset. Apple will realize people are NOT going for $3500 and they will release newer cheaper headsets with different price points in mind.
In a few years I can see apple offering a great headset at $999. And that will be the one people go for. This first one though, not some much.

 

[KanosWRX]

A 60Hz monitor for 1600 dollars!! Not even saying its geared towards Gamers, but 60Hz is super slow, you see more flicker and jaggy mouse movements.. I would say 120Hz is a minimum these days.

 

[FFabian]

I guess this will be around 1200 or less a few month after release. If this would've been available earlier I would've bought this one instead of the M2 Mini + ASD Combo I had to buy a few month ago.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

If they build symmetrical borders like the bottom one...why the borders are so thick for 2023...if they make them this way...why are not symmetrical...if they build very slim and symmetrical...why no built in speakers.....jesus christ

Yes but they’re heavily marketing the 90 degree rotation feature of the monitor, which makes the monitor look a tad unbalanced. Personally I would have preferred the thicker border (which isn’t even that thick) on all four sides.

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

A 60Hz monitor for 1600 dollars!! Not even saying its geared towards Gamers, but 60Hz is super slow, you see more flicker and jaggy mouse movements.. I would say 120Hz is a minimum these days.

Good luck finding a 120hz 5k2k panel, as they don't exist yet.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

Samsung gives the tilt and height adjustment stand at $1599. You have to pay an additional $400 to Apple to get that.

The Samsung is also a plastic matt screen which is typically worse for sharpness and vividness compared to glossy or even nano texture glass. It’s nice that the height adjustable stand is included for people who use a stand. Personally it doesn’t make much of a difference since I always mount my display on a vesa mount.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

A 60Hz monitor for 1600 dollars!! Not even saying its geared towards Gamers, but 60Hz is super slow, you see more flicker and jaggy mouse movements.. I would say 120Hz is a minimum these days.

For 5k and above, 120Hz displays aren’t really available at the moment. 60Hz is perfectly fine and not really noticeable unless you’re looking at full screen animations like desktop switching. These displays are geared toward people who value sharpness over refresh rate like artists or media creators.

 

[Unggoy Murderer]

The Samsung monitor will give you features at its $1599 base price Apple charges an additional $700 for.

Yes... but they both cost the same. Apple's display isn't $700 more, it's only more if you want more.

 

[DMG35]

The Samsung is also a plastic matt screen which is typically worse for sharpness and vividness compared to glossy or even nano texture glass. It’s nice that the height adjustable stand is included for people who use a stand. Personally it doesn’t make much of a difference since I always mount my display on a vesa mount.

You don't have to tell me about sharpness and color accuracy. I have a Pro Display XDR and am acutely aware of how awesome Apple's screens are. I was simply commenting on the prices, because it does in fact cost $400 more to get a height adjustable stand with Apple.

 

[frou]

Oh my gosh, it's actually the correct physical size for 5K high-PPI. Wonders never cease.

 

[EugW]

I see this at $999 during the Black Friday sales.

In a year this will be $999 new. Apples will not. Samsung always launches their prices to directly compete in their higher tiers. But after they make back their initial investment they lower the price and it’s more affordability from then on out.
Apple wouldn’t dare lower the price. That’s the point. Samsung launched this at the same price point, with way more features to entice the apple buyer. This display is a no brainer for people with $1500.00
The apple display, not so much.

For actual street price, this monitor was US$930 at launch in Asia weeks ago.

The Samsung is also a plastic matt screen which is typically worse for sharpness and vividness compared to glossy or even nano texture glass. It’s nice that the height adjustable stand is included for people who use a stand. Personally it doesn’t make much of a difference since I always mount my display on a vesa mount.

In the reviews this was not commented upon but it appeared to me in the video footage that there was light falloff toward the edges. I don’t know if that is due to the matte screen or due to uneven backlighting.

Also, one of the reviewers said he had backlight bleed in one area.

OTOH, IIRC it was mentioned one scaled resolution offered with this monitor is 2304x1296 which is my preference for 27” 16:9 screens. For some reason the Apple Studio Display does not offer this scaled resolution.

 

[antibolo]

A 60Hz monitor for 1600 dollars!! Not even saying its geared towards Gamers, but 60Hz is super slow, you see more flicker and jaggy mouse movements.. I would say 120Hz is a minimum these days.

If you think 60Hz has "jaggy mouse movements" that's very much a "you" problem.

Flickering at 60Hz was a genuine issue on CRTs (which is why 75Hz was considered the minimum acceptable, anything lower would cause eye strain). Literally not an issue on modern displays.

120Hz (or higher) is nice, but claiming that 60Hz screens are now unusable is just childish hyperbole.

 

[MNJohn]

For 5k and above, 120Hz displays aren’t really available at the moment. 60Hz is perfectly fine and not really noticeable unless you’re looking at full screen animations like desktop switching. These displays are geared toward people who value sharpness over refresh rate like artists or media creators.

And people who want crisp text.

 

[Ethosik]

I must be the only one that does not want permanent webcam on my monitor. Oh and 60Hz max is a no go for me too.

 

[EugW]

I must be the only one that does not want permanent webcam on my monitor.

The webcam is removable. It also comes with a lens cover, that can attached on the back when not needed.

 

[TracerAnalog]

I thought they might have made this 32” which would have differentiated it from the apple display. Then at this price point it would have been more appealing.

Indeed. Waiting for years on a 30”+ screen with more than 4K resolution… which is also affordable.

 

[PsykX]

Not sure if 5K on a 27" display make a lot of sense...

Maybe for looking at Photos and X-Rays where sharpness and contrast is important.

Once you take a taste at these resolutions, you don't go back.
I prefer having such a resolution at 60Hz, rather than having 120Hz at a lower resolution.

 

[Rychiar]

Surprising that they think at that price they will get Apple potential Studio Display buyers. Maybe a good option for Windows users who want something like Apple, but if they wanted to compete with Apple, they should have lowered the price.

But like someone said before, they can lower the price after the first wave of buyers, as Apple rarely lowers pricing.

No, thanks. Glad I bought a Studio Display.

Have you seen the Studio display pricing? It was 1299 a long time in the winter, then 1350 and now 1499. For a few days in the winter ya could even get the nanotexture one for 1350.

 

[EugW]

Have you seen the Studio display pricing? It was 1299 a long time in the winter, then 1350 and now 1499. For a few days in the winter ya could even get the nanotexture one for 1350.

And as mentioned earlier in the thread, you could get the Samsung ViewFinity S9 for $930 two weeks ago in Asia.

 

[DailySlow]

Minor thing, but I believe this should be 5120 x 2880.

Could be, could be.

 

[anthonymoody]

Built in speakers, even crappy ones, and built in streaming apps (including AppleTV+ as far as I can see on Samsung's website) makes this a potentially interesting AIO dorm-TV set up. Especially for a coder who might also enjoy the portrait orientation.

 

[JanLp]

Once you take a taste at these resolutions, you don't go back.
I prefer having such a resolution at 60Hz, rather than having 120Hz at a lower resolution.

Remember that what you see is not 5120x2880 but 2560x1440

Otherwise I agree with you.

 

[BeatCrazy]

Remember that what you see is not 5120x2880 but 2560x1440

Otherwise I agree with you.

You’re seeing the UI rendering at 2560x1440 relative scale. Actual content can be shown at real 4K/5K.

 

[roland.g]

1. The resolution is 5120 x 2880 not 2800.
2. Aspect ratio is 16:9. I already have a 5120 x 2160 34" 21:9 LG monitor. When they want to make a 21:9 34" or 38" at 6720 x 2880 then we can have a conversation.