I fully expect that the iPhone 7 will be waterproof. Samsung has already done that with the flagship Galaxy phones. I suspect waterproofing was one of the primary reasons (if not the main reason) for removing the 3.5mm headphone jack -- assuming all the rumors/leaks are accurate.
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Samsung Doubles Apple's Share of Smartphone Market as Customers Await iPhone 7
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absolutely. without Samsung, we'd still be stuck with 4 inch screen.
next year, curved screen for iPhone.... unapologically copied from Samsung
Truth be told, the Galaxy S7 is a killer phone. I've had a play with it in store when my contract was over to decide wether or not to try it out as my main phone over my 6S, and I was really impressed with the hardware side of things. The display is amazing, it feels great on the hand, it's fast and the camera is really good. Plus, there's the waterproofing. the software side of things is what deterred me in the end. Samsung'S TouchWiz interface has improved, but there's still all the clunk and unnecessary options both from it and the android core. Apple wins on the overall user experience, but as far as devices are concerned, the S7 shreds the current iPhones to pieces.
I agree with the expensive part. Especially in some places outside the us where it costs a couple hundred more us.
Not sure if I agree with the 4" phone part though. According to this the se sold only 16% and that cut into the 6 series. People who buy the smaller iphone appear not to be android converts but apple users that wanted a smaller phone.
"Apple’s newest 6S and 6S Plus models, which start at $650, accounted for just 65% of all U.S. sales in the second quarter, according to a survey of buyers by Consumer Intelligence Research Partners, or CIRP. The quarter before, the two high-end phones accounted for 71% of sales. A year ago, the then-top two models, the 6 and 6 Plus, accounted for 82% of sales, CIRP said.
The iPhone SE captured 16% of sales in the most recent quarter, with most of the rest going to the mid-tier iPhone 6 and 6 Plus first introduced in 2014."
http://fortune.com/2016/07/20/apples-cheap-iphone-se/
It's still not a cheap phone. A 64 gig se here in mexico costs 622. us dollars. Apple is competing with itself.
They say that they don't report details, for the same reason Apple says they do not report Apple Watch numbers: they claim it would help their competition.
Apple does not break down iPhone model sales for the same reason.
You're confused. Not your fault. Fan sites used to print confusing info like that a few years back.
Samsung doesn't report numbers at all, of course, so that part of your comment doesn't apply. However, they do count a device as a sale for revenue purposes when the shipment arrives at a retailer.
Apple does publicly report sales numbers, but the majority of those sales are also to retailers... not to end users like you seem to think. Ironically with respect to your comment, Apple counts a device as a sale the moment it is being shipped to a retailer. Which helps Apple give high numbers for opening weekend sales. Many of those are still on ships or planes or trucks.
And quite often, at the end of a quarter, millions of those retailer-sold iPhones are still sitting in retailer storage, waiting to be sold to an end user. That's why Apple sales swing so much. Retailers often purchase too many (perhaps pushed a bit by Apple when good numbers are needed), and that extra stock shows up as fewer sales the next quarter.
Nothing unusual about any of this, of course. The only point is, shipped = sold when it comes to sales reports from anyone, including Apple.
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That's not what I've read in the past. From what I've read several different places now, Apple only "counts" a device once it has been sold -- meaning Apple has been paid for the device whether by an individual at one of its retail stores or by a carrier. Samsung and others report number of phones shipped, which does not equate to sales of said devices.
Perhaps it is semantics? Although, I haven't understood those terms to be interchangeable.
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I am not sure if the iPhone 7 would help Apple make a turnaround and reverse its fortunes. Judging by the rumours, there is nothing really too exciting about Apple's new iPhone. Unless if there are some special features in the iPhone 7 that we are not aware of that can totally catch us by surprise and turn the tables around to Apple's favour...
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OPPO is catching fire the past year especially in China where it can be extremely influential to global marketshare. Of course it has over 2B people. Under 12% is shockingly low for Apple. There is a good chance Apple dips below 10% within a few years while Huawei and OPPO catches them. Like Star Wars, Apple doesn't have the same popularity or influence in China as the United States.
Volume shares isn't something Apple aims for. Flagships make the most money, and as long as they remain profitable, they don't care where they finish. Volume is generally influenced by a price war to the bottom with razor thin profits. China and India can live with cheap phones. More practical living. Most sub-$200 phones can do 90% tasks on what $700+ flagships could do.
So instead of buying one iPhone, they buy multiple phones since most Asian countries are on prepaid where owning multiple sims and dual sim phones exist. Americans just buy flagships because their carriers pushes it to them and they're generally stuck on one cell phone #. The de facto smartphone there is iPhone. Samsung is clearly #2. Reverse their roles globally.
Volume shares isn't something Apple aims for. Flagships make the most money, and as long as they remain profitable, they don't care where they finish. Volume is generally influenced by a price war to the bottom with razor thin profits. China and India can live with cheap phones. More practical living. Most sub-$200 phones can do 90% tasks on what $700+ flagships could do.
So instead of buying one iPhone, they buy multiple phones since most Asian countries are on prepaid where owning multiple sims and dual sim phones exist. Americans just buy flagships because their carriers pushes it to them and they're generally stuck on one cell phone #. The de facto smartphone there is iPhone. Samsung is clearly #2. Reverse their roles globally.
But as you say the Galaxy phone is already waterproof without dropping the 3.5mm headphone jack..
I fear it's more to do with selling wireless Beats headphones and lost adapters.
Gotta get those $$ up.
Uuh, iPhones aren't any more expensive than other flagship smartphones, e.g. the Galaxy S7.
What's the iPhone SE then?
That is correct. Apple reports both sales from its own stores to end users, and sales to retailers such as carriers and Walmart (which is the majority of sales).
Apple records that sale the moment a paid-for device ships to a retailer, according to their SEC filing.
Samsung records a sale the moment a paid-for device arrives at a retailer, according to their SEC filing.
Apple specifically states that returns are not subtracted from sales, but are accounted for in a different column. I don't recall if Samsung says anything about this in particular.
A lot of people are confused by this and think that "sold" means "to an end user". That's not what it means when Apple or analysts report a "sale". They mean it's no longer legally the manufacturer's responsibility; ownership has transferred to a user or a store somewhere.
TL;DR - in these analyst reports, shipped and sold are the same thing.
What a crock.
Next thing you'll say Toyota sells more cars than BMW, and complain that BMW is somehow failing because they're not selling anything like the Yaris, Echo or Corolla.
Next thing you'll say Toyota sells more cars than BMW, and complain that BMW is somehow failing because they're not selling anything like the Yaris, Echo or Corolla.
Yes, but the SE isn't a flagship model no matter how Apple spins it. iPhone SE is essentially a carryover design based on the 2012/2013 iPhone 5/5s design with the only difference being some updated internals. I was more specifically talking about a 6/6s in 4" (i.e. 3 sizes), that's what is missing.
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iPhone SE is essentially a carryover design based on the 2012/2013 iPhone 5/5s design with the only difference being some updated internals. Not flagship, but a last minute acknowledgement from Apple, they got 6/6s wrong by not releasing a 4" version alongside the two other sizes.
Since Samsung and Apple are on different refresh cycles with regard to their flagship models, they are always leapfrogging each other depending upon the time of year. It will likely be the case that the iPhone 7 will be judged to be the better smartphone when it's released. Likewise, the Galaxy S8 (or whatever it's called) will likely be better than the iPhone 7 until the following iPhone and so on.
I will say however, that Samsung is starting to out-innovate Apple despite this cycle.
I will say however, that Samsung is starting to out-innovate Apple despite this cycle.
Never. Samsung used to have revenues that were around 3X that of Apple (back in 2007). This is for ALL of Samsung Electronics, BTW, which not only includes phones & tablets but also TVs and audio equipment, digital cameras/camcorders, LCD displays, semiconductors and memory, computers, hard drives, refigerators and applicanes and probably even kitchen sinks to boot.
Apple has already overtaken Samsung Electronics for yearly revenues (something that people swore up and down would NEVER happen). And since Samsung sells boatloads of products with low margins, they will never be able to match Apple for profits (let alone revenues).
The point that where I live people do not buy flagships. Apple has nothing to compete with that since the se goes for 622.00 us and it's tiny.
The moto x pure goes for about half of what my 6s plus went for and it's a great flagship phone. I have both.
No. Leapfrogging implies they are both doing the same and each takes over form the other. Samsung has never sold a smartphone that does nearly as good as the iPhone. It's not even close. Apple crushes Samsung in the high-end flagship smartphone market. Samsung crushes Apple in the low-end $100 smartphone market (because Apple doesn't sell low-end junk).
Never say never. Time has a way of proving people wrong.
I think you are very correct. Samsung does very well in places like this, latin america.
By far most of the phones I see are samsung, some motorola and I know of 3 iphones.....all purchased by me. Mine, the wifes and the pos one I gave to my small niece. Don't know of anyone else that has one.
That's not something to be proud of. It means you're way overcharging your products at the expense of your customers. You can do that when you have better products but it will be hard as others be on par or better.
Funny how so many consumers seem to be proud of this.