Samsung Doubles Apple's Share of Smartphone Market as Customers Await iPhone 7

[tann]

No duh, the S7/Edge phones are incredible.

Samsung really hit it out of the ball park with them. More interested to see the new Note than new iPhone.

 

[0lf]

And that makes me wonder why Apple is lagging so much. With so little products to focus on they should be on top at every category they're in.

Are you saying Apple should release a new iPhone more often to keep being on top technologically ? That will destroy the value of their products...
Also, they rely a lot on suppliers, they cannot be one year ahead because each time they push a technology they also help the competition.

Well, Operating Profit grew 57% YOY for Samsungs Mobile division according to the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36911228

Keep in mind Samsung comes from not so great years. Instead, the previous year break records for Apple...

 

[ryanwarsaw]

No. Leapfrogging implies they are both doing the same and each takes over form the other. Samsung has never sold a smartphone that does nearly as good as the iPhone. It's not even close. Apple crushes Samsung in the high-end flagship smartphone market. Samsung crushes Apple in the low-end $100 smartphone market (because Apple doesn't sell low-end junk).

Really? No idea how good this site is but found this looking for when the next Note will be launched.

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style...7-major-news-revealed-ahead-of-launch-results

"Overall, Samsung said that profits over the last three months hit 8.14 trillion Korean won (£5.5 billion), an increase of 1.24 trillion won (£843 million) from the same period last year.

The division responsible for smartphone sales played a key role in this increase, with its profits recorded at 4.32 trillion won (£6.35 billion).

The Korean manufacturer recorded sales of between 75.6 and 78.3 million smartphones during the quarter, including twice as many Galaxy S7 smartphones as Apple did iPhones during the past three months.

However the company was keen to point out that its many lower-cost mobile devices also contributed to these strong results, alongside the flagship Galaxy S7 and S7 edge smartphones, revealed back at Mobile World Congress in March."

 

[nviz22]

S7 > iPhone 6S, no question about it. Which is why the sales speak for themselves.

 

[9081094]

Are you saying Apple should release a new iPhone more often to keep being on top technologically ? That will destroy the value of their products...
Also, they rely a lot on suppliers, they cannot be one year ahead because each time they push a technology they also help the competition.
Keep in mind Samsung comes from not so great years. Instead, the previous year break records for Apple...

Yes they should. I think the to be released iPhone 7 has nothing the competition not already having. Dual camera's. There are a lot of vendors already having that. Give me something unique and worth buying an iPhone 7. Samsung is the leader in Amoled together with LG. Apple should 've see that coming for years. Samsung also is making good camera's and as long Apple relies on tech from Samsung, they'll never be able to be better than them.

Apple is only knitting a lot of others tech together (most phone makers do) and by doing that they'll never be able to be better for long. They need to push harder with iOS to make a difference. But Huawei and Xaomi mimic the looks of iOS too. I've played with an Huawei P9 and it's like playing with the iPhone.

But Apple has so little products to focus on that it is an embarrassment that the few they have lag so much lately.

 

[EricTheHalfBee]

Really? No idea how good this site is but found this looking for when the next Note will be launched.

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style...7-major-news-revealed-ahead-of-launch-results

"Overall, Samsung said that profits over the last three months hit 8.14 trillion Korean won (£5.5 billion), an increase of 1.24 trillion won (£843 million) from the same period last year.

The division responsible for smartphone sales played a key role in this increase, with its profits recorded at 4.32 trillion won (£6.35 billion).

The Korean manufacturer recorded sales of between 75.6 and 78.3 million smartphones during the quarter, including twice as many Galaxy S7 smartphones as Apple did iPhones during the past three months.

However the company was keen to point out that its many lower-cost mobile devices also contributed to these strong results, alongside the flagship Galaxy S7 and S7 edge smartphones, revealed back at Mobile World Congress in March."

http://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20160707000313&RURL=#jyk

This number of 26 million S7 sales has been widely reported on Android and Samsung sites. Does this mean Apple only sold 13 million iPhones during the last quarter? Because I'm sure Apple said they sold over 40 million.

 

[BeforeTheMeds]

Same for me with no updates in the Mac line. Apple has neglected the graphics and video market for too long. I really prefer Mac OSX above Windows 10 but since Adobe creative cloud uses its own user interface which is the same on both platforms, it's like Apple is pushing their longtime users away from them and turning into a fashion brand of the computer industry.

Yep, I like osx better also but boot camping windows 10 I see that it's a lot closer and even faster and smoother than osx is. The ui alone is not enough to get me to spend twice as much money.

 

[9081094]

Yep, I like osx better also but boot camping windows 10 I see that it's a lot closer and even faster and smoother than osx is. The ui alone is not enough to get me to spend twice as much money.

Totally agree! Apple milk inc. needs to wake up! And they won't wake up from only Oooohhh and aaaahhhs on every new wristband they introduce.

 

[macrem]

Samsung is going after every category starting from the dirt cheap low end models whereas Apple focuses mainly on high end with a few models. Doing so, Apple makes more profits than Samsung.

 

[niun]

Samsung is going after every category starting from the dirt cheap low end models whereas Apple focuses mainly on high end with a few models. Doing so, Apple makes more profits than Samsung.

Not strictly true. Since the 5c Apple have been trying to grab the cheaper crowd. Not much cheaper for sure , mid range.

Apple still charge waaaay too much for very little tech.
If you were to weigh up what you're getting for the cash, Samsung flagship phones for the win.

 

[nofear1az]

Yes, but the SE isn't a flagship model no matter how Apple spins it. iPhone SE is essentially a carryover design based on the 2012/2013 iPhone 5/5s design with the only difference being some updated internals. I was more specifically talking about a 6/6s in 4" (i.e. 3 sizes), that's what is missing.
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iPhone SE is essentially a carryover design based on the 2012/2013 iPhone 5/5s design with the only difference being some updated internals. Not flagship, but a last minute acknowledgement from Apple, they got 6/6s wrong by not releasing a 4" version alongside the two other sizes.

Wrong! Spec wise the iPhone SE beats the specs on the iPhone 6 not to mention having the same features as the 6S. BTW they still sell the iPhone 5. So yes the SE is a 4" flagship phone.

Reference: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/iphone-se-vs-iphone-6/

 

[Michael Scrip]

The latest data from market research firm IDC reveals that Samsung shipped nearly twice as many smartphones as Apple in the fiscal third quarter.

Right... but many (most?) of those Samsung smartphones were $100-200 smartphones.

Apple currently sells ZERO $100-200 smartphones.

So if we're gonna compare numbers of units... shouldn't they be similar units?

 

[rocknblogger]

That's not what I've read in the past. From what I've read several different places now, Apple only "counts" a device once it has been sold -- meaning Apple has been paid for the device whether by an individual at one of its retail stores or by a carrier. Samsung and others report number of phones shipped, which does not equate to sales of said devices.

Perhaps it is semantics? Although, I haven't understood those terms to be interchangeable.

Not true. Please have a read here.

 

[PaladinGuy]

Here in the Netherlands you'll see far more S7 edge then iPhone 6 (S and S plus). Youngsters allmost all have Samsung device because they're 'cooler' then Apple these days. It's sad to see it but it's true. I think I can speak for whole Europe.

Im not trying to be a jerk, but that comment made me laugh out loud. Hear ye, hear ye. The spokesman of Europe has spoken! Just kidding. All in good humor.

 

[9081094]

Im not trying to be a jerk, but that comment made me laugh out loud. Hear ye, hear ye. The spokesman of Europe has spoken! Just kidding. All in good humor.

I can't speak for Europe of course and I don't think you're a jerk . But I can only notice what's happening around me and that isn't much Apple like a few years ago.

 

[Dvda66au]

But Samsung have shown that removal of the headphone socket is *not* required to make a device waterproof. This is a business decision by Apple to drive headphone sales/licencing fees (if the rumour is true...)

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Like the s7 active?

http://www.redmondpie.com/waterproofgate-samsung-galaxy-s7-active-fails-water-resistance-test/

 

[admob71]

I'm glad Samsung is having success - it will only push Apple to come out with better products. Competition is good for consumers.

You are on the wrong site for that sort of common sense approach old boy..

 

[Malarkey]

Bought a Galaxy S6 edge earlier this year to experience the VR options with the Samsung Gear headset. That and Google's Cardboard Camera, which amazingly turns a 2D camera into a 3D camera. Light years ahead of anything Apple is doing.

 

[admob71]

One of the reasons Shamesung has "sold" so many phones is because they're giving them away. I've seen so many "get a free Samsung phone" ads, it's starting to get nauseating.

Bit of perspective here, in the UK, does anyone rarely pay for handsets and that includes Apple, no upfront cost. Just a 2 yr monthly fee that covers, the handset cost, and minutes and data. The end.
Is this nauseating? Or you being a bit of a drama queen?

 

[smacrumon]

Wrong! Spec wise the iPhone SE beats the specs on the iPhone 6 not to mention having the same features as the 6S. BTW they still sell the iPhone 5. So yes the SE is a 4" flagship phone.

Reference: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/iphone-se-vs-iphone-6/

Absolutely wrong, sorry. FACT CHECK! iPhone SE is essentially a carryover design based on 2012/2013 iPhone 5/5s. Th internals are somewhat updated but no thought went into it further. It's a device that was old news from day one. SE has a lesser display, no 3D touch, a slower first generation Touch ID, lesser FaceTime camera, no barometer, old design, etc. Flagship refers to the best; SE doesn't meet that criteria, it doesn't even come close. http://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/

 

[dav1dd]

Article Title: Samsung Doubles Apple's Share of Smartphone Market as Customers Await iPhone 7
Reality: People sick of Apple Phones. Now trying alternatives.

 

[mi7chy]

Samsung is going after every category starting from the dirt cheap low end models whereas Apple focuses mainly on high end with a few models. Doing so, Apple makes more profits than Samsung.

Actually, current iPhones are comparable to low end Android devices like the $100 ZTE Zmax Pro. Samsung high end design, quality and features are unmatched by anything Chinese made from Apple, ZTE, etc.

 

[Apple4everr]

The latest data from market research firm IDC reveals that Samsung shipped nearly twice as many smartphones as Apple in the fiscal third quarter. Android-based Galaxy smartphone shipments totaled an estimated 77 million, compared to 40.4 million iPhones, during the three-month period that ended in late June. For Apple, the fiscal third quarter is seasonally its lowest of the year.

Samsung was the most popular smartphone vendor in the quarter with a leading 22.4 percent market share, nearly double Apple's 11.8 percent market share. Samsung experienced 5.5 percent year-over-year growth on the strength of the Galaxy S7 launch in March, whereas Apple declined 15 percent compared to the year-ago quarter as customers await the iPhone 7 series in September.

One bright spot for Apple was the lower-priced iPhone SE, although the iPhone's average selling price dropped to $595 compared to $662 last year:Apple also ceded market share to Chinese rival Huawei, which ranked third among smartphone vendors with an estimated 32.1 million shipments and 9.4 percent market share. Huawei manufactures Google's popular Nexus 6P and introduced new dual-camera P9 and P9 Plus smartphones in April, but its presence in the United States and other regions is still limited compared to China.

Chinese rivals OPPO and Vivo rounded out the top five smartphone vendors with quarterly sales of 22.6 million and 16.4 million units respectively. OPPO in particular saw explosive 136.6 percent year-over-year growth over the three months, increasing its market share to 6.6 percent compared to 2.8 percent in the year-ago quarter. Vivo had 9.1 percent market share, an 80.2 percent year-over-year change.

Worldwide smartphone shipments totaled an estimated 343.3 million units in the quarter, an increase of only 0.3 percent from the year-ago quarter, when vendors shipped an estimated 342.4 million units. The relatively flat growth is the result of market saturation and lengthening upgrade cycles, which vendors have attempted to offset by offering incentives such as the iPhone Upgrade Program.

On Wednesday, Apple CEO Tim Cook said the company recently sold its 1 billionth iPhone.

Article Link: Samsung Doubles Apple's Share of Smartphone Market as Customers Await iPhone 7

They should start stating that there is a difference in shipped compared to sold, you could ship 80 million but only sell 20 million, Samsung could even ship 1 billion but all of them would be left on the shelf for ages and eventually be in the clearance section

 

[EricTheHalfBee]

Actually, current iPhones are comparable to low end Android devices like the $100 ZTE Zmax Pro. Samsung high end design, quality and features are unmatched by anything Chinese made from Apple, ZTE, etc.

You almost sound like you believe that. Almost.
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Article Title: Samsung Doubles Apple's Share of Smartphone Market as Customers Await iPhone 7
Reality: People sick of Apple Phones. Now trying alternatives.

Article Title: Samsung Doubles Apple's Share of Smartphone Market as Customers Await iPhone 7
Reality: Samsung sells gazillions of low-end phones while S7 sales barely crack 25 million.

 

[enriquesh96]

no surprise here! i knew samsung was going to do great this time around and the s7 is proof of that. Hopefully the iphone 7 will turn the tables