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Samsung Galaxy 10.1 copies the iPad...and blows it away!
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i saw a bunch of tween girls line up around blocks just for dustin beaver tix.. i guess the ecosystem in his shows are magical
(now where's that hide behind couch emoticon)
I know people who stood in line for Radiohead tickets.
What's the comparison?
Enough people like Justin Bieber to line up to see him. Enough people like Radiohead to line up to see them. Enough people like the iPad enough to buy one. Not enough people like android tablets to line up for them.
What's the comparison?
Enough people like Justin Bieber to line up to see him. Enough people like Radiohead to line up to see them. Enough people like the iPad enough to buy one. Not enough people like android tablets to line up for them.
Competitors are making the mistake of thinking they can win by playing the speeds and feeds game of the PC-era.
As Apple says, the magic is the tablet getting out of the way. Until Samsung and others make a better software experience (OS, app store, etc.), they will learn the hard way that consumers today could give a rip about the specs.
Keep this in mind as well, Google and Microsoft have to bribe developers with free crap to get them to develop for their platforms. Meanwhile, Apple had developers breaking in to develop before there were official means. Now they pay to develop. Until competitors get developers on their side, they will lose the app wars.
As Apple says, the magic is the tablet getting out of the way. Until Samsung and others make a better software experience (OS, app store, etc.), they will learn the hard way that consumers today could give a rip about the specs.
Keep this in mind as well, Google and Microsoft have to bribe developers with free crap to get them to develop for their platforms. Meanwhile, Apple had developers breaking in to develop before there were official means. Now they pay to develop. Until competitors get developers on their side, they will lose the app wars.
Ahem Apple doesn't 'give out' these apps. You do actually have to buy them.
From the review you linked to:
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when lying next to the iPad 2 we honestly can't tell which tablet is thicker and unfortunately we don't have a micrometer handy to get down into the business of microns.
Weight-wise, the 10.1 is lighter than the iPad 2, weighing 1.24 pounds compared with the iPad 2's 1.32 pounds.'
Weight-wise, the 10.1 is lighter than the iPad 2, weighing 1.24 pounds compared with the iPad 2's 1.32 pounds.'
You know, the first thing I thought when we got out our new iPad 2 was, 'Gee, it's okay, but I wish it was 0.08 pounds lighter'.
Incidentally, you know why it's 0.08 pounds lighter? Keep reading:
'It's the feel of the plastic back (and not necessarily the cartoon robots of death) that are the most disappointing aspect of the 10.1's design. It doesn't feel as solid as the iPad 2 and as a result doesn't feel as conformable in our hands.'
But hey, if it 'blows the iPad 2 away' in your mind, buy and enjoy!
Exactly. I absolutely HATE my Samsung Android phone and will ditch it as soon as an iPhone is available on a reasonably-priced prepaid phone plan.
Ooops, my bad. My point still stands. Apple makes great applications which show people not just the potential in iOS on the iPad, but the current power of it.
A few years back, I wished Apple would make a 2 screen iBook with no physical keyboard. I also wished they would come up with an input device that could connect to applications like photoshop on your mac and now the iPad has basically become both of those devices.
Apple is being very smart by advertising the iPad the way they are. The Android tablet guys are blowing it by repeating the PC manufacturer's mistake of pushing specs over function. They are putting the device front and center to get you to focus on the hardware.
Apple is putting the experience front and center to get you to focus on the software. That hits the emotional sweet spot of the consumer. The best marketers do that: Coke markets on sentimentality, not the sugar content of their drink.
So every time I see yet another my-spec-is-best ad or post, I just have to shake my head at people who just don't get it.
Home screens on Android devices look the way you set it. It may look just like iPad if that is what you prefer.
Well, that is utter speculation. The graph means nothing. The reason the apps store has slowed is because originality is at a premium now. What makes them think the android app store will just whizz straight by? What is feeding this app market? Will it simply be more apps doing the same thing, or will there be more original apps?
^This!
I used to be interested in modifying things on my phone. I would load the newest BB os on my phone before my carrier would release it. I jail-broke my iphone 3g. Now i just want my devises to work without having to learn the source code and the file system. My iphone and ipads just work, plain and simple
Samsung makes great components (screens) but they suck at making a phone that actually works. On top of that they don't support the phone with newer OS's updates, because that's not part of their business model. They only make money when they sell you the phone. Apple makes money on the phone and the apps. I won't touch a Samsung device with a 10ft pole. My wife epic 4g runs like crap, but the screen is beautiful.
I got the iPad 2 ( WHICH HASN'T EVEN SHIPPED YET!!!! )
but that isn't a copy of the ipad. it's a tablet, it's supposed to be a rectangle. looks like vanilla android too and none of the touchwiz crap. it's a very nice device. Would I get it? no but it still is very nice.
ipad is still better though so this thread is pointless. it does not blow the iPad away. iPad will be the best premiere tablet to get for a very very long time. All other tablets are just tablets, the iPad is THE tablet.
)but that isn't a copy of the ipad. it's a tablet, it's supposed to be a rectangle. looks like vanilla android too and none of the touchwiz crap. it's a very nice device. Would I get it? no but it still is very nice.
ipad is still better though so this thread is pointless. it does not blow the iPad away. iPad will be the best premiere tablet to get for a very very long time. All other tablets are just tablets, the iPad is THE tablet.
I am glad I kept my Xoom with all its ports - the iPad feels like sitting in a cave bound with chains ( albeit a nice cave) after using Xoom with 3.1 update. Sure 3.0 had me a bit frustrated with performance but 3.1 is doing great so far. It almost is making the proverbial pig (Flash) fly.
I think it will whizz straight by - simple reason being utter lack of quality control. If you removed all the crap that would be rejected instantly by apple, you'll find things are very, very different.
Random list of stuff I've seen on the android market:
- wallpaper (as in one picture, packaged as an app!)
- pirate versions of somebody else's paid app (offered for free, which is incredibly suspicious)
- blatant clones of other apps. As in very slightly different name, otherwise near identical including graphics.
- alpha versions of apps. Completely unfinished, full of bugs, not even beta quality.
- and of course the masses of apps that you just wouldn't need on iOS (task killers anyone? Antivirus?)
Not to say there isn't lots of good software in there too of course, but if you took some kind of "number of apps X app quality" figure, the app store would be miles ahead.
When will people stop buying based on specs? They mean nothing when the OS isn't even fully optimized to utilize them. Many of Honeycomb's reviews (so far) have all alluded to the fact that the OS was released too early. That's not to say that it won't be an incredible ecosystem, it may or may not, but it's 5-7 months from getting there. And to that end- to each his (or her) own. It is really about personal preference.
I think the Galaxy 10.1 looks great and I like the form-factor. I think people claim "copy" a bit too soon- the wide bezel gives your fingers a place to hold the tablet so that they aren't setting off the touch screen. Hell, it's thinner and lighter, presumably due to the plastic back. I don't have a problem with that- if I were to scratch it I'd feel a lot less guilty than were it made from aluminum. On paper, the Galaxy 10.1 and 8.9 look great but I'd recommend not buying a Honeycomb powered tablet until 3.1 is out and running smoothly. On top of that, we should get to sniff what iOS 5 will look like next month and I think you'll see a lot of the features there that have sent many users to Android.
Right now, the iPad wins the tablet war because of the support the ecosystem has and what is available right now. By October that issue will either be closer to some kind of parity thanks to Honeycomb improvements or Apple's iOS 5 will be a bigger than expected leap forward. It's clear that Google wants to mirror iOS's saturation across its product line and that makes sense. More power to Google for offering an alternative that is well suited to different likes and uses.
To get back to point- I don't think the Galaxy blows away the iPad. Graphically, no. Numbers don't lie and the GPU performance is not as good. Browser-wise, absolutely- I hate Safari. Apps are better on iOS (for now). As for displays- PLS is similar to IPS but ppi will be better on the 10.1. Hard to tell as far as color yet. One thing I think Apple does very well is touch screen sensitivity. Touch lag seems to be less on Apple displays than with others.
I think the Galaxy 10.1 looks great and I like the form-factor. I think people claim "copy" a bit too soon- the wide bezel gives your fingers a place to hold the tablet so that they aren't setting off the touch screen. Hell, it's thinner and lighter, presumably due to the plastic back. I don't have a problem with that- if I were to scratch it I'd feel a lot less guilty than were it made from aluminum. On paper, the Galaxy 10.1 and 8.9 look great but I'd recommend not buying a Honeycomb powered tablet until 3.1 is out and running smoothly. On top of that, we should get to sniff what iOS 5 will look like next month and I think you'll see a lot of the features there that have sent many users to Android.
Right now, the iPad wins the tablet war because of the support the ecosystem has and what is available right now. By October that issue will either be closer to some kind of parity thanks to Honeycomb improvements or Apple's iOS 5 will be a bigger than expected leap forward. It's clear that Google wants to mirror iOS's saturation across its product line and that makes sense. More power to Google for offering an alternative that is well suited to different likes and uses.
To get back to point- I don't think the Galaxy blows away the iPad. Graphically, no. Numbers don't lie and the GPU performance is not as good. Browser-wise, absolutely- I hate Safari. Apps are better on iOS (for now). As for displays- PLS is similar to IPS but ppi will be better on the 10.1. Hard to tell as far as color yet. One thing I think Apple does very well is touch screen sensitivity. Touch lag seems to be less on Apple displays than with others.
Sure it looks nice and all but after using my wifes 7" Tab and the issues she has had with her Samsung Galaxy phone I have to agree with others that I plan on staying away from it. Besides my 32GB iPad 2 will be here next week.
Smartest post yet jon (sorry to be a kiss-ass). Thumbs up. iPad 2 wins..for now. But the Android tablets are getting better every month. The Android app store gains every month. This in turn will push Apple to make even better products.
Like I said....competition is good. We (the consumers) win.
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The attendees at GoogleIO were gifted a Galaxy 10.1 for free.
http://m.ibtimes.com/google-i-o-dev...-0-honeycomb-attendees-apple-ipad-143912.html
http://m.ibtimes.com/google-i-o-dev...-0-honeycomb-attendees-apple-ipad-143912.html
True, how good is a device that lacks support and proactive and periodical OS updates, that when it gets replaced by a newer model it will eventually stop being supported?
ICS will supposedly run on any current hardware running Android, so you will probably be able to do an update (or more likely an os overwrite) if you buy a current Android device. It will probably be a mess, but you won't be left behind with old software.
Anyway, iOS > Android as long as Google doesn't screen apps.