Doesn't matter how old the 4S is now, it's obvious people want big screens. 4.5 and bigger wouldn't sell if people didn't want one. I think that's quite obvious and Apple should act fast or they risk losing market quickly. A 4 inch iPhone now when 4.7 is normal would be a little toy. Bigger than the 3.5 we have now, but still really small. Regardless of your opinion on Android, people just want big phones, including me and 4 just won't cut it.
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Samsung Galaxy S III Reportedly Tops iPhone 4S as Best-Selling U.S. Smartphone
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The worst of all of those years... PlayStation to Sega Saturn ports.
The largest problem being as while the original PlayStation used triangles for 3D objects, the Saturn calculated in quads. Making 3D games on the Saturn have a more "chunky" look to them or clipping issues.
Compare the Resident Evil port to the Saturn vs. The PlayStation. Or many others from EA.
It's somewhat difficult for me to visualize how this would have affected things, as I have no idea what kind of poly counts either of those systems could handle. Of course that wouldn't have been used given the cost of rendering such a thing in real time. I'm picturing the results of trying to tessellate solely in quads along erratic curvature. Assuming you're trying to get some amount of evenness to avoid jacked up deformation, it is more difficult with quads. I thought at a hardware level they were all transformed to triangles when rendered by the gpu though? I remember the Saturn, but I never played anything on it. I'm not sure what the advantage of quads would have been with real time models where subdivision wouldn't be used.
Care to point out what apps are unsupported? I have the original iPad, and there are only a few I've seen. None have been recent. The ones I've seen are mostly camera apps, and that's a given as to why.
So still rocking that 1980's motorola brick phone? That phone never felt cheap, only nasty.
This is nothing but strawmen and stereotypes. The rantings of a few fanboys do not speak for "iPhone users today". The most common opinion that I see from iPhone users about the screen size debate is that they don't care either way. The current size works. Screen size is less important than the rest of the package. As long as Apple doesn't make the phone too big for ergonomic use and deals with app development issues, whatever they do with the screen size is fine. As long as the tradeoffs are dealt with, more screen real estate would be great.
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To see the real trend you should make comparisons between each quarter and the previous year quarter.
You'd see only positive trend since 2007!!
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I'm not going to waste my morning for this.
Denial or acceptance, choose your poison...
just wanted to share with you all. looks like you both own Android phones. give the following apps a try. i think they will come handy.
gesture search - hand gesture universal search. indexes everything on phone, contacts, apps, music.
airdroid - perform 90% of tasks using wifi. transfer files, send/receive messages, app management etc. any computer through Chrome, Firefox or IE etc.
mysms - send/receive sms through a website even when the phone is not within reach. the only requirement is the phone must be on and have signal. really handy in offfice or school environment.
It still has useful features...
Doorstop
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Murder weapon
Jack stand
Partial steampunk prop
Parking chuck
All that without taking a bit of damage.
Yeah, let's compare last year's quarters to this year's, since half of 2011 the iphone was only on att or just released to Verizon. In 2012, it was on all carriers and added to the Chinese market as well.
Gee, I wonder why Apple had more sales this year, than last year? Is this concept to tough to grasp for those with an Apple shaped logo on their phone? The real statistic is falling sales this entire year and the sales carriers have had to offer to get them off their shelves.
It's fantastic that you think iPhone sales jumping from 70-75 million a year with the iPhone 4 to 120-125 million a year with the iPhone 4S is an indicator that "People are tired of the same crap coming out of Apple."
It's fantastic that you think iPhone sales jumping from 70-75 million a year with the iPhone 4 to 120-125 million a year with the iPhone 4S is an indicator that "People are tired of the same crap coming out of Apple."
Just as I think it's cute you are unable to see a correlation between opening a market or adding carriers as the reason you see the YoY jump from 2011 to 2012 in such dramatic fashion. And at the same time stick your head in the sand and ignore the huge sale figures losses, quarter after quarter this year!
I guess when you are Blind with such devout faith in apple, acknowledging factual data that shines any negative light upon your logo is simply ignored and replaced with whatever the flavor of the day excuse is. Great for you, but I prefer the real world.
I see the numbers, but I understand that other market forces besides customer apathy can explain them. I also see that Apple still leads the mobile phone industry in customer satisfaction (increasing its rating from JD Power this year).
I understand that increased availability and distribution of the iPhone is responsible for some of the increase. I see that the iPhone 4 was limited through the first half of it's life by availability issues, thus causing sales to even out over it's lifespan. I see built up demand for the 4S, based on the extra quarter than the iPhone 4 was sold, that frontloaded sales for the 4S. I see that the 4S was released in the holiday quarter, which negated the holiday bump seen by the iPhone 4 in its second quarter of release.
I could go on, but hopefully, you get the idea that there is more to the analysis than "Number go down = bad".
Need to look at the bigger picture
What is missed here is that Samsung segments the market with different devices. Between the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note II they will sell about 50 million additional units by end of year. There will also be other Galaxy series phones on the lower end which will sell another 10 million units world wide by end of year. Yes, the iPhone 5 will be a big hit and sell 50 million units in 3 months or so, but that is ok since Samsung with all models won't do to badly either. Net profit will still be high for both companies.
There are a couple of other Samsung devices coming out like the Galaxy Beam and Galaxy Nexus 2 by end of year.
What is missed here is that Samsung segments the market with different devices. Between the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note II they will sell about 50 million additional units by end of year. There will also be other Galaxy series phones on the lower end which will sell another 10 million units world wide by end of year. Yes, the iPhone 5 will be a big hit and sell 50 million units in 3 months or so, but that is ok since Samsung with all models won't do to badly either. Net profit will still be high for both companies.
There are a couple of other Samsung devices coming out like the Galaxy Beam and Galaxy Nexus 2 by end of year.
I have plenty of different phones, my daily driver is just my Galaxy S2 (which used to be a BlackBerry Bold 9700).
I get quite a few review units and misc phones I've used over the years. I'm actually starting to like the route Nokia is going with their WP8 models and existing models. They are solid devices.
One way I observe the Android phones vs. the iPhone, is that Android devices are very much like a PC built to run a common platform (Android) where you can say the iPhone is similar to the closed ecosystem of Mac hardware running OS X.
In the end, all this technology is something I have a passion for. I love gadgets and gizmos. Smartphones are just what happens to be the most hotly debated item when in the end, it's made to make phone calls. Everything else is just a neat feature.
it's a phone, it's not a tablet. I want something that slips into my pocket and I can't even notice it's there.
Great observation - and apple DOES NEED to wake up - or they risk losing people.
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No but screen size clearly is an issue for many. The larger screens on nearly all the competition phones is turning heads... and perhaps loyalties.
finally someone gets it.
the only thing Samsungs Galaxy S3 has is it's large screen. but people will quickly find out that size does not mean better. There is a reason why apple kept the iphone screen at 3.5 for so long. they did not want to compromise the compact footprint. The iphone 5 represents a slight increase in foot print and screen size. the enginerring of such a device is really impressive as they must utilise every mm of space. The secret of the Samsung Galaxy s3's thiness is result of a thin fragile plastic case and a much larger footprint to spread out the internal components which is disguised with a pretty big screen wich at full bright ness will drain the life out of the phone. to get the 10 hour life span one would need to lower brightness to the lowest level, turn off wifi, blue tooth, 4G, and end running aplications. iphone user don't need to do nearly that much to get the 10 hour life span.
Nope. 6 million was global sales. In July, another analyst has claimed the iPhone was still gaining U.S. market share faster than all Android devices combined.
As far as the iPhone 5 being disappointing for many customers, I think you are jumping to conclusions based on a few forum posters and bloggers.
Hopefully I am wrong, we will see very soon.
This is true. I don't get 10 hours use out of my iPhone though, I don't think. Either way, I agree that the one thing I noticed about the SGS3 is how light it was which tells me the plastic housing is quite fragile. A good case would absolutely be necessary and then some. I still like the phone though.