Samsung Galaxy S III Reportedly Tops iPhone 4S as Best-Selling U.S. Smartphone

[Ryan John]

Wait- so now that the S3 is the most popular phone is it now cool to hate Samsung? Is apple the underdog again? I'm very confused, someone please tell me which phone will increase my social status.

And there's the problem. Phones shouldn't be about social status and delusions of grandeur based on the model/brand you own. Surely they should be about the functionality that you need for the tasks you perform in your daily life?

Apple have to shoulder some of the blame for this with the way they have emphasised the cool factor in their promotional material over the years. They basically took electronic devices and turned them into fashion accessories.

 

[flameproof]

That's so funny to see people complaining about the "small screen" of the iPhone when everybody was shooting it because it was too big when it was first release.

What's desirable may change over time.

 

[Mr.damien]

Wait, you mean like Apple with Fingerworks, Siri, Chomp, etc? Damn Samsung, they even copy Apple's strategy!

What's innovative about the iPhone's software? It's simple and smooth, and the learning curve is most likely less for the majority of consumers, but those benefits have been there for a while now. Software wise, what's so great about iOS 6 over iOS 5?

The GS3 has done some interesting innovative things with photo management/sharing and TecTiles.

funny. GS3 should first start to be smooth and stop to lag when you just scroll a tableview.

Like it was from the beginning on iOS like you said...

 

[Rennir]

funny. GS3 should first start to be smooth and stop to lag when you just scroll a tableview.

Like it was from the beginning on iOS like you said...

Even assuming you were right, that totally addresses my criticism doesn't it?

Motorola practically invented the cellphone! Let's label that as innovation and dismiss everything else that comes after it.

 

[faroZ06]

Wait, you mean like Apple with Fingerworks, Siri, Chomp, etc? **** Samsung, they even copy Apple's strategy!

What's innovative about the iPhone's software? It's simple and smooth, and the learning curve is most likely less for the majority of consumers, but those benefits have been there for a while now. Software wise, what's so great about iOS 6 over iOS 5?

The GS3 has done some interesting innovative things with photo management/sharing and TecTiles.

Never did I compare iOS 6 to iOS 5. I'm comparing iOS to Samsung's Android. The entire syncing method, app store, and app grid layout are all things that Apple created. Not to mention all of the features Apple made and patented, such as features like scroll bouncing, cursor zooming, and multi-touch.

And here's the logic error I always see. Since Apple bought or took some technologies and put them into iOS, that means that everything in iOS has been bought from someone else or taken from public domain (not correct). In contrast to iOS, there are very few innovations in Android and plenty of stolen patented technologies in Samsung phones.

 

[lazard]

Phones shouldn't be about social status and delusions of grandeur based on the model/brand you own.

except that is Apple/iPhone's biggest selling point.

 

[Rennir]

Never did I compare iOS 6 to iOS 5. I'm comparing iOS to Samsung's Android. The entire syncing method, app store, and app grid layout are all things that Apple created. Not to mention all of the features Apple made and patented, such as features like scroll bouncing, cursor zooming, and multi-touch.

And here's the logic error I always see. Since Apple bought or took some technologies and put them into iOS, that means that everything in iOS has been bought from someone else or taken from public domain (not correct). In contrast to iOS, there are very few innovations in Android and plenty of stolen patented technologies in Samsung phones.

But isn't comparing iOS 6 to iOS 5 something that we should do? Apple didn't invent OTA updates, the app store, or the app grid layout. Have you never seen apps laid out in a grid before the iPhone?

And since you previously made the distinction between what's produced within Samsung and what Samsung bought and incorporated, Apple didn't invent multitouch. They just bought out the company that did. You are right about the other two though.

Those two features shows that Apple paid attention to details. But I'll give you an equivalent that appears on Android: the way the notification center is swiped up. In iOS, when you swipe up, the entire page goes up; the entire thing behaves as if it's rigid. However, in Android, the bottom moves first and it's not until you reach a certain point that the top begins going up as well. This takes into account that there may be something below the screen and it seems more realistic/natural. Apologies if the explanation is confusing, but try testing the animations of both notification centers and you'll notice the difference.

I've never implied that. I was just showing you that it's not only Samsung that buys and incorporates technology.

Regarding stuff that Android brought to the market:
OTA updates
Notification center
Hi res screens (motorola droid)
Social integration (may not be important to you, but it's a big deal as seen by the $2 billion that Facebook bought Instagram for)
NFC

Also, I'm trying to figure out the angle you're approaching our discussion. Is "patented" a key word for you? What if it's a blatantly stolen technology but wasn't/hasn't been patented? Are you concerned about the moral or legal aspects? Or both?

 

[kdarling]

Never did I compare iOS 6 to iOS 5. I'm comparing iOS to Samsung's Android. The entire syncing method, app store, and app grid layout are all things that Apple created. Not to mention all of the features Apple made and patented, such as features like scroll bouncing, cursor zooming, and multi-touch.

Sync'ing, app stores and the grid had been on mobile devices since the 1990s. (So had other things like OTA updates which understandably took a while for Apple to implement on their young iOS.)

Neither the cursor magnifier nor multi-touch are Apple inventions.

The bounce back is about the only thing I don't personally recall before, at least not the way Apple did it (allowing the page to first go past the screen boundary).

In contrast to iOS, there are very few innovations in Android and plenty of stolen patented technologies in Samsung phones.

Patenting something doesn't mean you were only one who invented it.

I remember in the mid '70s being so proud of myself for figuring out a fast way in assembly code to draw a line. Imagine my surprise when I later found out the technique already had a name: the Bresenham Algorithm. Just like me, everyone was discovering and re-discovering the same "new" methods all over the world.

It's a good thing that there weren't many software patents granted back when Apple got started. They'd have been screwed, along with everyone else.

 

[swy05]

Never did I compare iOS 6 to iOS 5. I'm comparing iOS to Samsung's Android. The entire syncing method, app store, and app grid layout are all things that Apple created. Not to mention all of the features Apple made and patented, such as features like scroll bouncing, cursor zooming, and multi-touch.

And here's the logic error I always see. Since Apple bought or took some technologies and put them into iOS, that means that everything in iOS has been bought from someone else or taken from public domain (not correct). In contrast to iOS, there are very few innovations in Android and plenty of stolen patented technologies in Samsung phones.

HAHAHAHA. Thanks for the laugh.

Syncing method, app grid layout? Are you serious? You're telling me Apple traveled back in time and created app grid layout before Palm or Windows did? You really telling me this with a straight face?

Apple made multi-touch?

Jesus Christ.

Pretty soon people are going to say Apple created the universe.

Sorry children. Your lord Jobs and Apple didnt create all of these things you think they created.

This is pretty sad actually.

 

[roxxette]

HAHAHAHA. Thanks for the laugh.

Syncing method, app grid layout? Are you serious? You're telling me Apple traveled back in time and created app grid layout before Palm or Windows did? You really telling me this with a straight face?

Apple made multi-touch?

Jesus Christ.

Pretty soon people are going to say Apple created the universe.

Sorry children. Your lord Jobs and Apple didnt create all of these things you think they created.

This is pretty sad actually.

 

[Mr.damien]

What's desirable may change over time.

Yeah because your hand just grow 50% ?

And don't tell me that your hands can use a GSIII easily, even if it were true, man are not the only market of Apple. Just think about asiatic girls and the size of there hands ...

 

[roxxette]

Yeah because your hand just grow 50% ?

And don't tell me that your hands can use a GSIII easily, even if it were true, man are not the only market of Apple. Just think about asiatic girls and the size of there hands ...

So the world have to stop because some people might find "difficult" to work with a phone with one hand ?

 

[wikus]

HAHAHAHA. Thanks for the laugh.

Syncing method, app grid layout? Are you serious? You're telling me Apple traveled back in time and created app grid layout before Palm or Windows did? You really telling me this with a straight face?

Apple made multi-touch?

Jesus Christ.

Pretty soon people are going to say Apple created the universe.

Sorry children. Your lord Jobs and Apple didnt create all of these things you think they created.

This is pretty sad actually.

Watch this:

http://youtu.be/zd-dqUuvLk4

Skip over to 5:06 mark and watch as Steve Jobs is called out for lying. Two decades of work on innovation from other individuals on the technology and steve jobs says 'we created a new technology called multitouch'

The worst part is that people, many of whom are members on macrumors, believe this to be true and use it as some kind of crusade against Android.

 

[KnightWRX]

In contrast to iOS, there are very few innovations in Android and plenty of stolen patented technologies in Samsung phones.

Plenty of "stolen" patented technologies (you don't steal patents! You infringe them! god. get it right) in iOS too. Basically, infringing a patent requires no prior knowledge of that patent or products using it. Simply sitting down and solving a problem, you could infringe someone else's patent.

Apple got caught twice that I know of, infringing on Creative Labs' patents for PMP UIs with the iPod and for infringing Krausner's patents on Visual Voice Mail. There are probably tons of other lawsuits/examples I don't know off the top of my head.

Anyway, list of iOS features that aren't innovative, but rather ripped off other vendors' stuff :

- Multi-tasking
- MMS
- OTA updates
- Wifi syncing
- Maps
- Webmail
- cloud storage/sharing
- Notification drop down

But seriously, can you really hold it against Apple to take other's ideas in these cases ? I sure like my iPhone supporting all of these and I don't mind Apple trying their hand at online services like other players do.

the features Apple made and patented, such as features like [...] multi-touch.

Link to patent please. A lot of researches working on it since 1982 are interested in knowing when Apple patented this technology.

 

[swy05]

Yeah because your hand just grow 50% ?

And don't tell me that your hands can use a GSIII easily, even if it were true, man are not the only market of Apple. Just think about asiatic girls and the size of there hands ...

I live in Korea and you know what's the most popular cellphone among the so-called "asiatic" girls here with their "tiny" hands?

Galaxy Note.

Way to generalize and stereotype.

 

[blackhand1001]

Watch this:

http://youtu.be/zd-dqUuvLk4

Skip over to 5:06 mark and watch as Steve Jobs is called out for lying. Two decades of work on innovation from other individuals on the technology and steve jobs says 'we created a new technology called multitouch'

The worst part is that people, many of whom are members on macrumors, believe this to be true and use it as some kind of crusade against Android.

Very eye opening video. Thanks for sharing. I have been saying that all touch phones were inevitable for years. Even if the iphone never came out we would have gotten to where we are eventually.

 

[flameproof]

What's desirable may change over time.

Yeah because your hand just grow 50% ?

And don't tell me that your hands can use a GSIII easily, even if it were true, man are not the only market of Apple. Just think about asiatic girls and the size of there hands ...

I was generally speaking. Once keypads were very fashionable, now not so much. Once the iPhone was very large, now it's rather small.

But since you brought 'hands' up, or let's say 'ease of typing' - it will always be easier to type on a larger size screen. Personally from my experience: iPhone - not easy, iPad - very easy. HTC HD2 (rooted Android + Swype) - somewhere in between.

There was once a Swype like app for iOS, which got banned by Apple. I wonder why.

 

[Jermai1152]

The SGS3 is a very nice phone. I'm very impressed with it but I have to think that is the closest to the iPhone one can get without actually owning an iPhone; for very obvious reasons. (beat dead horse) It's a bit large for my pocket though.

What's the reasons

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The shame. Haha

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er, are you sure youre commenting on the right companies? it was Apple that innovated the hell out of the cell business, causing massive disruption and shifting fortunes -- please see near bankruptcies of Nokia and RIM. then came the clones like Samsung.

as for the 4S over the 4...you do realize apple practices an incremental strategy, yes? even w/ that they doubled the CPU, multiplied the GPU, doubled the storage and (i think) the ram, redesigned the antenna and doubled the thru put. what more could you want?

oh yeah, a new case design. rolleyes...

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and the problem is...? did your eyes get smaller during this time? mine havent. and the resolution on the device has doubled yielding a screen thats even easier to read now than when it came out.

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the iphone feels cheap and poorly made? riiiight.

geeze...the mental hoops people will jump thru to feel good about themselves is absurd. its a phone, man. not your self-esteem. i hope.

get off the nutts of phone manufacturer that don't pay u for endorsing its brand. How much money will u give them to keep riding their nutts

 

[Mr.damien]

I live in Korea and you know what's the most popular cellphone among the so-called "asiatic" girls here with their "tiny" hands?

Galaxy Note.

Way to generalize and stereotype.

And ? It still doesn't means they can use it with one hand.

But I like your "I leave in Korea" just for trying to give you some integrity.

If you want to know, I have a lot of friends that goes in Korea for vacations before going to Japan and they told me iPhone was every where.

So who's right ?

 

[swy05]

And ? It still doesn't means they can use it with one hand.

But I like your "I leave in Korea" just for trying to give you some integrity.

If you want to know, I have a lot of friends that goes in Korea for vacations before going to Japan and they told me iPhone was every where.

So who's right ?

First of all, your grammar and spelling is atrocious. I had a hard time understanding what you even wrote.

Next your comment about asian girls with their tiny hands would have trouble with a large phone.

Hence my comment about living in Korea and seeing these girls with their small "asiatic" hands.

And finally my comment about how most of the girls here carry galaxy notes. Thus invalidating your comments and saying you have no idea what you're talking about and to stop generalizing and stereotyping.

Iphones are popular here. Yup they are. But the Galaxy note is more popular among the females.

Phones are too large? Thats the most pathetic excuse i see all the time.

Do you have a 23 or so inch monitor at home? Well its too ****ing big according to you. Why not keep a 17 inch monitor.

Because like the drones say, if i want a bigger screen ill get a tablet. So then why dont you throw out your 23 inch monitor and just put a 32 inch lcd tv on your desk.

Seriously only the trolls and drones would think too much screen real estate is a bad thing.

Its sad that people have become brainwashed to believe that a certain screen size is what they should be using. DO YOU SEE HOW RIDICULOUS THIS IS?

If someone wants to use a 4 inch screen, let them. Someone wants to use a 5.5 inch screen, let them.

I had to reread your post multiple times to understand what you were trying to say. This isnt sarcasm btw. Im being honest.

 

[Navdakilla]

Getting used to my s3. Will probably still switch back to the iPhone

 

[Mr.damien]

Do you have a 23 or so inch monitor at home? Well its too ****ing big according to you. Why not keep a 17 inch monitor.

Yeah, because monitor is very well known to be hold with hands. So stupid comparison...

A phone on the contrary is very often used with one hand because you are in public transportation, because you are back from shopping and got multiple bags and so on...

BTW, I am always amazed how people that only speak their native language are telling others they are speaking wrong.

Common practice to attack people on the style instead of the content when you know you are wrong.

But at least we agree on one point: Samsung stuff is - as you said - for girls.

 

[brdeveloper]

Yeah, because monitor is very well known to be hold with hands. So stupid comparison...

A phone on the contrary is very often used with one hand because you are in public transportation, because you are back from shopping and got multiple bags and so on...

BTW, I am always amazed how people that only speak their native language are telling others they are speaking wrong.

Common practice to attack people on the style instead of the content when you know you are wrong.

But at least we agree on one point: Samsung stuff is - as you said - for girls.

I thought iPhone was for girls because it looks like a fashion adornment.

I don't care if a Galaxy Note isn't suitable for holding with one hand. My next smartphone (or tablet which does calls) will probably be the Galaxy Note 2. I'll buy it basically because it agglutinates a lot of usefulness: drawing, handwriting notes, browsing pretty comfortably comparing to a phone form factor and, although it doesn't fit in a standard jeans pocket, it fits a jacket pocket or in pants with larger pockets.

Also, I do more browsing or messaging than calling, so I don't care if it's not so comfortable for talking.

Thanks Samsung for bringing a new niche for consumers.

 

[Giuly]

Thats obvious! Got damned no body is going to buy an iPhone 4S right now!!!

...and it's still AT&T's best selling phone.

Iphones are popular here. Yup they are. But the Galaxy note is more popular among the females.

Make your own joke.

 

[Thilessen]

GlaxyS3 vs iphone4s

can anybody tell me which one is the finest. in authentic way plzz.