Samsung Galaxy S8 to Debut 'Viv', the AI Assistant From the Creators of Siri

Xgm541 said:
5/8 posts are lame comments about exploding so far.

It's like everyone is rushing to make a funny joke but then they all end up not funny.
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Another flame war, started because of a Samsung device ..... I see a pattern here

At least their Phone ran Android Marshmallow so you were at least a little prepared
 
trifid said:
In the meantime Apple has been in sleep mode with Siri for years.
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This seems crazy. Surly if you've got Team A working on to text to speech conversion, and Team B working on responses to the text Siri receives, they could have hard-coded better responses in the intervening 5 years by now?

Presumably they've got software which reports requests which result in 'sorry I don't understand / can't help'?
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timber said:
Samsung doesn't own a mainstream OS so even if VIV is leaps beyond siri and Google Assistant they can't add much value as they can't integrate anything properly.

In fact one of the many S series improvements has been the dialling back of Samsung "features" and TouchWiz and more of stock Android.
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This is a good point - surly Google Assistant must be default, or Samsung has to say goodbye to all Play Services?
 
foxkoneko said:
reminds one of all the non funny 'courage' 'jokes' :rolleyes:
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Given how the MBP and Iphone 7 releases have been, they might as well have caught fire as well :rolleyes:
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citysnaps said:
Really? A disaster?

In the two weeks before the recall Samsung manufactured and shipped 2.5 million phones.

Starting at the iPhone 7 rollout Apple was/is manufacturing and delivering to customers 800,000+ iPhones per day.

The math is pretty easy. And the disaster you spoke of lies elsewhere.
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Citation needed please.
 
I have been saying this since the launch of Siri and even before it was acquired by Apple. Siri is absolutely crap. Apple should have taken Siri to next level but they are still stuck with the same old Siri.
 
BornAgainMac said:
Well, if people feel that Siri is falling too far behind, some people might leave the iPhone when the gap becomes greater. Apple makes most of its profits from the iPhone. So if they want to continue to be lazy with selling Macs, this will be less work for Apple to update some software on the iPhone instead.
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Yeah, Apple has definitely done a crappy job with Siri, but I can't see them abanonding it or giving another competitor its imprimatur. I don't think users are going to leave the iPhone only because of Siri. Voice commands, esp. w/ phones just isn't that big of a feature right now and switching phone OSes is a big deal with all the work it requires to make sure basic data transfers, then download new apps, then set up new apps. I don't even think high school kids have that much time on their hands. It's why the phone sales may not be growing but they aren't really shrinking either. Everyone is married to their phone now.
 
Viv you say?
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GrumpyMom said:
I got that impression, too, after reading an interview with the founders of Siri on why they left Apple. They refused to spell it out but emphasized they left when Steve passed away. They implied that Steve got what they were trying to do but everyone left after him did not.
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My understanding was that their end goals conflicted with that of Apple's. They wanted to make a great Digital assistant, which meant compromising on the privacy which Apple was unwilling to compromise.

I am still in the fence as to who is right here, but since both parties were unhappy working together, may as well split up. Hopefully, the team at Viv is better off working for Samsung while Apple continues to improve Siri on their terms, and we will let the results speak for themselves.
 
So how would this work for Samsung? Is this Viv going to be running in their Touchwiz layer or as some kind of app?
 
Oh goodness people, the explosion quips are funny but...yikes, overdosing here.

There are many people who use Samsung phones and are enmeshed in their ecosystem as much as Apple users are enmeshed in theirs, so yes, there will be people buying the S8.

There will also be people buying iPhones and Siri will get some improvements. Seeing as AI is still in its early stages of catching on, Siri is still in the running to become a formidable presence, if Apple focuses on Siri.

We need to stop wishing or predicting doom and destruction on two companies who create pretty richly featured phones and instead do what we can to pestering them into giving us better reliability and quality.

Some of us will dwell in both ecosystems. It's actually not that hard. The hardest part is shedding IMessage and becoming a green bubble person. Nevetheless, I'm doing it as many before me have. Life goes on.
 
citysnaps said:
Siri works great for as well. I can ask "what movies are playing in San Francisco." And then get a list of movies and their times. Or while I'm driving say, "play Sneaker Pimps" and then a playlist of music starts playing on my car's radio. Or just say "play blues" and then a play list of blues music starts playing. Or "start a timer for 10 minutes" and it happens. Or "what's the weather" and I get a forecast for the day in the city I'm currently at. And on and on. Soon I'll have it integrated into my Home Automation system.

And that's all from using Siri on my Watch. I'm very pleased on how it has improved over the years.
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Many of the commenters on here don't seem to be able to tell the difference between "it needs improvement in X area" and something being "useless".
 
AI is good, self learning, but any technology that can learn by itself is kinda scary.

We're moving into a world where suddenly AI would know everything abut a person, and u don't even have to say anything.

Some would find that great.... but what if there were issues, and suddenly any persion that is not voice-regonised can easily get info just by talking to a phone and saying "tell me all about <this person>

Would u still say its 'cool' ? I think there is a gap between reduction of privacy with the increased intelligent of what technology would know,, and u cannot keep privacy and also expand any speech technology at the same time without giving up some of that privacy.
 
VIV is one of the best Assistent out there, I am all apple but if they do not step up their game I might be switching over.
 
One of the most useful relatively straight forward things I want to ask an AI assistant "at what time does this store/restaurant close?" Siri fails colossally.

You dare to tell me in 5 years no one could improve the assistant to give me the time a store closes?

Google now works fine with that query for example.

I could go on with pages of criticism, my point is Siri is utterly and completely stagnant for most of its lifespan. Little tweaks and improvements are absolutely marginal.
 
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