Samsung Galaxy S8 to Debut 'Viv', the AI Assistant From the Creators of Siri

[JGIGS]

Hopefully it can understand what your saying more often than Siri. Shouldn't be a tough standard to beat.

 

[mdatwood]

Had IPhones 1 to 6S...yes, I had all of them. Switched to a Galaxy 6+ Edge, nice phone but the bloatware and slow OS updates bothered me. Got a Pixel XL a week ago, I doubt I'll be finding out what "Viv" can do.

I followed a similar path,but have a iPhone7+ now. There is nothing wrong with Android, but IMHO the only phones worth getting are the Google ones. No crapware, and immediate updates as long as the phone stays supported. The current Pixel was apparently rushed and feels too expensive for what it is. I bet the next Pixel will be nice phone.

 

[GfPQqmcRKUvP]

If Apple doesn't realise what a huge opportunity it missed by refusing to include Viv as an enhanced version of Siri in their products, there's not much hope left.

It's nearly 2017 and Siri is still not able to send a message or give driving directions without messing things up.

I asked Siri showtimes for Doctor Strange yesterday and it transcribed everything correctly except it replaced "Doctor" with "Dr." and then didn't realize what I was asking...

 

[spacemnspiff]

I wonder if it is going to be so good that it will blow up all competition.

I really hope that it's good, that way Google and Apple have competition. But historically companies that have acquired such capability haven't been able to exploit such opportunities. Look at HP with WebOS, now LG owns WebOS. The best LG can do with WebOS is put them in their TVs and refrigerators, that's an utter waste.

Without deeper integration in the OS or being native to the OS, it's going to be another feature app that no one uses. And Samsung historically has been horrible at software implementation. And then the part about Samsung collecting user data, that I don't will work in their favor.

 

[9081094]

Im sorry to admit that I've more trust in Samsung about innovation then Apple these days. What if those galaxy phones didn't blow... It would have meant a disaster for Apple's iPhone 7. Apple is lagging on all fronts these days. You've only to look at the iPhone 7 and the MacbookPro as their examples of being 'innovative'. On the software side: the pace apple is taking with maps (2 transits in cities a month , were there any new flyovers recently???), siri still being a joke compared to Google now and that cap is widening every month, iCloud is too expensive compared to other services.

Apple's leaders still still think that you and I think is a cool/innovative brand. They've lost connection with reality and they are so ignorant/arrogant that they charge prices that high on yesterdays tech.

I hate to read that people are proud that is taking 104% profits from the market. It's almost theft.

The leaders at Apple managed to turn a cool, innovative, tech loving company into a financial money making arrogant out of fashion brand in only about 4 years

 

[Trusteft]

I really hope that it's good, that way Google and Apple have competition. But historically companies that have acquired such capability haven't been able to exploit such opportunities. Look at HP with WebOS, now LG owns WebOS. The best LG can do with WebOS is put them in their TVs and refrigerators, that's an utter waste.

Without deeper integration in the OS or being native to the OS, it's going to be another feature app that no one uses. And Samsung historically has been horrible at software implementation. And then the part about Samsung collecting user data, that I don't will work in their favor.

Actually I am in favor of as light OS as possible, for everything. I don't want a huge OS like we have now for desktop or mobile devices. But I am in the minority. I rather have something as light as Atari's TOS or even Amiga's Workbench than the monsters of OS we have today.

 

[shiseiryu1]

This all sounds to me like Apple's lawyers dropped the ball. Sounds ridiculous that Apple can buy a company and then the co-owner goes off and creates a product and sells it to the competition a few years later. I would have thought that they'd have a very long non-compete type clause in whatever agreement was signed to buy the original company. Lawyer fail!

 

[anomie]

it's gonna be on fire baby

you REALLY try to be funny, don´t you?

 

[citysnaps]

Im sorry to admit that I've more trust in Samsung about innovation then Apple these days. What if those galaxy phones didn't blow... It would have meant a disaster for Apple's iPhone 7. Apple is lagging on all fronts these days. You've only to look at the iPhone 7 and the MacbookPro as their examples of being 'innovative'. On the software side: the pace apple is taking with maps (2 transits in cities a month , were there any new flyovers recently???), siri still being a joke compared to Google now and that cap is widening every month, iCloud is too expensive compared to other services.

Apple's leaders still still think that you and I think is a cool/innovative brand. They've lost connection with reality and they are so ignorant/arrogant that they charge prices that high on yesterdays tech.

I hate to read that people are proud that is taking 104% profits from the market. It's almost theft.

The leaders at Apple managed to turn a cool, innovative, tech loving company into a financial money making arrogant out of fashion brand in only about 4 years

Really? A disaster?

In the two weeks before the recall Samsung manufactured and shipped 2.5 million phones.

Starting at the iPhone 7 rollout Apple was/is manufacturing and delivering to customers 800,000+ iPhones per day.

The math is pretty easy. And the disaster you spoke of lies elsewhere.

 

[anomie]

This all sounds to me like Apple's lawyers dropped the ball. Sounds ridiculous that Apple can buy a company and then the co-owner goes off and creates a product and sells it to the competition a few years later. I would have thought that they'd have a very long non-compete type clause in whatever agreement was signed to buy the original company. Lawyer fail!

First it "sounds like" and in the end you make it look like a fact ("Lawyer fail").
Maybe you should vote Trump tomorrow.

 

[9081094]

Really? A disaster?

In the two weeks before the recall Samsung manufactured and shipped 2.5 million phones.

Starting at the iPhone 7 rollout Apple was/is manufacturing and delivering to customers 800,000+ iPhones per day.

The math is pretty easy.

You live in the USA were Apple is still being relative popular and their services work better. You only have to look at China how Apple is doing over there to be able to peek into the future.

 

[shiseiryu1]

Im sorry to admit that I've more trust in Samsung about innovation then Apple these days. What if those galaxy phones didn't blow... It would have meant a disaster for Apple's iPhone 7. Apple is lagging on all fronts these days. You've only to look at the iPhone 7 and the MacbookPro as their examples of being 'innovative'. On the software side: the pace apple is taking with maps (2 transits in cities a month , were there any new flyovers recently???), siri still being a joke compared to Google now and that cap is widening every month, iCloud is too expensive compared to other services.

Apple's leaders still still think that you and I think is a cool/innovative brand. They've lost connection with reality and they are so ignorant/arrogant that they charge prices that high on yesterdays tech.

I hate to read that people are proud that is taking 104% profits from the market. It's almost theft.

The leaders at Apple managed to turn a cool, innovative, tech loving company into a financial money making arrogant out of fashion brand in only about 4 years

I think Apple's profit lead has less to do with innovation and more to do with consistency. They consistently make high-quality products which are built to work with one another. No other company is doing that as effectively. Other companies may be doing some cool things but it's not the same as a high quality hardware/software ecosystem that functions well as a whole.

While other companies are trying to "out spec" each other (or race to the bottom) Apple is focusing on the overall experience...and so far that strategy is working for them.

 

[citysnaps]

You live in the USA were Apple is still being relative popular and their services work better. You only have to look at China how Apple is doing over there to be able to peek into the future.

But what does that have to do with Apple's disaster relative to the Note 7 that you spoke of?

And, the numbers I referenced are worldwide.

 

[shiseiryu1]

First it "sounds like" and in the end you make it look like a fact ("Lawyer fail").
Maybe you should vote Trump tomorrow.

The whole thing was RIGGED! Apple lawyers should go to JAIL! I never said "Lawyer Fail"! We need to make Apple Great Again.

Ok now I need to vote for Trump.

 

[Michaelgtrusa]

I hope for the best.

 

[anomie]

Im sorry to admit that I've more trust in Samsung about innovation then Apple these days. What if those galaxy phones didn't blow... It would have meant a disaster for Apple's iPhone 7. Apple is lagging on all fronts these days. You've only to look at the iPhone 7 and the MacbookPro as their examples of being 'innovative'. On the software side: the pace apple is taking with maps (2 transits in cities a month , were there any new flyovers recently???), siri still being a joke compared to Google now and that cap is widening every month, iCloud is too expensive compared to other services.

Apple's leaders still still think that you and I think is a cool/innovative brand. They've lost connection with reality and they are so ignorant/arrogant that they charge prices that high on yesterdays tech.

I hate to read that people are proud that is taking 104% profits from the market. It's almost theft.

The leaders at Apple managed to turn a cool, innovative, tech loving company into a financial money making arrogant out of fashion brand in only about 4 years

blahblah. You try to make your thinking everyone else's way of thinking.
Looks like you just can't stand that it is no loner "nerdy" to use Apple products, that´s ok.
But please do accept that the majority of Apple customers is very, very satisfied.
I don´t knwo a single person who bought an iPhone because of that Galaxy Note thing(yes, it wasn't their flagships Galaxy S that burnt).
They bought their iPhones because they had very good experience with it in the past.

 

[AppleMad98004]

I wonder if Apple should allow you to pick which voice assistant can work for you. Apple could put it in the settings section in iOS 11. Of even ask "Google / Alexa / Contana / Siri" by name before asking your request. That would be neat.

Yup and Microsoft / Google / Amazon would allow that. Not. Amazon won't even sell Apple TV because it competes with them.

 

[Michaelgtrusa]

You live in the USA were Apple is still being relative popular and their services work better. You only have to look at China how Apple is doing over there to be able to peek into the future.

I look into the nation that invented these technologies for the future not the nation that has stolen them!

 

[Michael Goff]

Yup and Microsoft / Google / Amazon would allow that. Not. Amazon won't even sell Apple TV because it competes with them.

What? So does Roku, and they sell that. Want a PlayStation TV? They sell that. No, Amazon doesn't sell the Apple TV because they don't feel Apple deserves 30% of their low margin business.

 

[9081094]

blahblah. You try to make your thinking everyone else's way of thinking.
Looks like you just can't stand that it is no loner "nerdy" to use Apple products, that´s ok.
But please do accept that the majority of Apple customers is very, very satisfied.
I don´t knwo a single person who bought an iPhone because of that Galaxy Note thing(yes, it wasn't their flagships Galaxy S that burnt).
They bought their iPhones because they had very good experience with it in the past.

Seems like you only come in an Apple shop and have no clue what's on the market today.
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I look into the nation that invented these technologies for the future not the nation that has stolen them!

Typical USA thought. High tech doesn't come from the USA these days so do most inventions.

 

[Pootmatoot]

Step your game up Apple! Don't be like Microsoft was with mobile, get on AI now!

Apple doesn't exist in a vacuum.

Hopefully Microsoft's failure to leap on the phone bandwagon early with two feet will be worth it when the SUrface phone arrives.

I'm praying for a competitor to the Note series, because it's such a good form factor.

 

[mrpq]

Can Viv call the Fire Department?

 

[coolfactor]

If Apple doesn't realise what a huge opportunity it missed by refusing to include Viv as an enhanced version of Siri in their products, there's not much hope left.

It's nearly 2017 and Siri is still not able to send a message or give driving directions without messing things up.

Careful not to overgeneralize, as it makes your argument weak. Siri performs admirably in many, many cases. If you have specific examples of where Siri is failing you, share that. Maybe there's some tips and suggestions that will help you to use the assistant more effectively. Background noise is a real deal-breaker... she has trouble separating that from your spoking commands. Is there room for improvement? Absolutely! And I think the more that people use Siri, the better she gets.
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How can something I have never used and moreover have no intention of ever using die? It was never alive in the first place.

You're missing out on some fun times. Laying in bed, asking her to set wake-up alarms, adding items to your shopping list, setting appointments, getting driving directions, checking the weather for tomorrow.... there's a lot that we use Siri for in our house and it's very entertaining and convenient.

 

[Pentium]

Siri is not that smart yet and Google Assistant is far more functional so let's wait and see this, I don't think I will buy a Samsung Galaxy phone anytime soon but more competition is always good.

 

[ackmondual]

If Apple doesn't realise what a huge opportunity it missed by refusing to include Viv as an enhanced version of Siri in their products, there's not much hope left.

It's nearly 2017 and Siri is still not able to send a message or give driving directions without messing things up.

Ironic given how Siri was slated for all 3 OSes... Blackberry, Android, and iOS until Apple bought out that company and made it iOS only.