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Samsung Launches $1 Trial Program for iPhone Users

samcraig said:
You're doing them a favor? Ok. How about at least admitting that it's at least (hopefully) a win-win for both sides.



I don't think calling is a breach of their contract. Did they explicitly say in the contract that they will NOT call you? Also - if you don't want any more calls from them - all you need to say to opt out is "I do not wished to be called again. Please take me off your call list." And then if they call again, you can try and take action. It's not an easy thing to "win" - but you can at least try and have legal footing.

As I said - I can understand why you don't want or like to be called. But I can't really believe you're surprised.

Also - let me ask you this - because I honestly don't know how they are working this deal. Is it your phone number they are calling you on, or one they provided for the test. Honestly curious. Because if it's the latter - then they really do have a right since it's technically their number.
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They are calling the number that I provided them. So my number. If they called the phone they provided I wouldn't be as upset.

I believe it is a breach of contract because it specifically states in the agreement that they have the right to email you promotions and about the test drive. But nothing states they have the right to give your number to a local Samsung rep to try and sell you a device.

I can't tell them not to call me because I currently have their device. If they keep calling me after I return it, then I will pursue action.
 
Mlrollin91 said:
They are calling the number that I provided them. So my number. If they called the phone they provided I wouldn't be as upset.

I believe it is a breach of contract because it specifically states in the agreement that they have the right to email you promotions and about the test drive. But nothing states they have the right to give your number to a local Samsung rep to try and sell you a device.

I can't tell them not to call me because I currently have their device. If they keep calling me after I return it, then I will pursue action.
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Thanks for clarifying. If you can't tell them to stop calling you because you're using their device - then you must acknowledge that they are entitled to do so. I'm not trying to be jerky about it. I'm just trying to understand your logic on that one. Again - you have every right to be annoyed. I just don't think they are beaching anything. Putting a sour taste in your mouth about the company - definitely and goes against the spirit of the trial... for sure.
 
samcraig said:
Thanks for clarifying. If you can't tell them to stop calling you because you're using their device - then you must acknowledge that they are entitled to do so. I'm not trying to be jerky about it. I'm just trying to understand your logic on that one. Again - you have every right to be annoyed. I just don't think they are beaching anything. Putting a sour taste in your mouth about the company - definitely and goes against the spirit of the trial... for sure.
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I completely see your point. I'm not trying to be difficult either, but I just don't like the fact that Samsung Corp gave a local Samsung rep my phone number when the terms and conditions don't say they reserve the right to do it. What is stopping them from giving away my number if I don't switch to Samsung? Obviously they probably wouldn't and would be very stupid if they did, but nothing is stopping them because they have already gone past their own T/Cs.
 
samcraig said:
Is it your phone number they are calling you on, or one they provided for the test. Honestly curious. Because if it's the latter - then they really do have a right since it's technically their number.
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Twice, they've called their phone using their phone number that is tied to their Verizon account. Both times they've left me polite voicemail on their phone. I really can't get too torqued about it.

Their phone is a very nice phone, so much better than past models. I'm grateful for the opportunity to try their phone out. But, it's not an iPhone. iMessage is a killer app for me.
 
I would just tell them, as politely as possible, that it is their phone calls, everyday that are swaying your decision, and if they continue you will just return the phone and look elsewhere. If they continue to harass, it is them who is causing samsung the lost sale. Let them explain that to their bosses.

I had that happen when Car shopping. Went into a Hyundai just to see what was available. Talked with a sales rep, we discussed some numbers. But I outright fromt the start told him "i'm just shopping and getting comparison numbers, I won't be buying for at least a month IF I choose to, and I am definitely looking at other car manufacturers".

He proceeded to call me every day for the next two weeks. "Have you made up your mind yet?" "Just wanted to see how you feel about us still" "did I tell you about our amazing _______".. and so on and so forth.

by the 2nd week, I asked to speak to his supervisor / floor manager and told his floor manager outright "you have lost a sale because of your salesperson's ridiculous behaviour and sales tactics".
 
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Follow up it's just part of sales, I'm in it, I get it, doesn't bother me at all. More importantly I know that I don't personally know anyone from California at all so if i see that number I just let it go to VM. Returning it next week after the keynote. They can't "sell me" if I don't talk to them. On the plus side this has really sold me on the idea of a bigger screen, compared to my iPhone 5. Can't wait for the 6S!
 
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When will they restock their site? I missed the first wave and have been checking everyday
 
billy the fish said:
A phone company offered a trial promotion to try and tempt some loyal subscribers to another brand. Price is nominal, but of a loss leader, stmdard business practice to get folk through the door.. So you extrapolate that into that somehow they care cutting corners.. On what exactly.. The best screen on the market.? The best camera on the market. The nicest looking design on the market.. After one month, price is standard price that they normally are... And here's the thing.. It scares the crap out of you !!!! What on earth seen you talking about man.. Can you explain in simple term what you are scared of ?
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Samsung is the dodgy builder, he doesn't care about how good the walls are or foundations because the paint covers it up.

I don't think anyone thinks samsung has the best screen especially considering they're pentil and OLED. Best camera who says that? some samsung shill or paid youtube sponsor, samsung likes to win spec races but IQ isn't that great compared to sony, apple and the iPhone is the most used online. Nicest design i don't think so, it no only borrows heavily from apple but has some of the wierdest off centre out of line elements of any phone. 1+ are so much nicer and cheaper than any samsung i've ever seen. Why would i be scared, it doesn't affect me, i have no desire to defend apple or attack samsung, i'm saying what i think based on my personal opinion not because i'm in the church of samsung or apple, i buy the products i think are designed best and perform the functions i need together with my tech, i do not pick based on price.

People who buy solely on cheapest price are fools. This promo is a fools errand.
 
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alexgowers said:
Samsung is the dodgy builder, he doesn't care about how good the walls are or foundations because the paint covers it up.

I don't think anyone thinks samsung has the best screen especially considering they're pentil and OLED. Best camera who says that? some samsung shill or paid youtube sponsor, samsung likes to win spec races but IQ isn't that great compared to sony, apple and the iPhone is the most used online. Nicest design i don't think so, it no only borrows heavily from apple but has some of the wierdest off centre out of line elements of any phone. 1+ are so much nicer and cheaper than any samsung i've ever seen. Why would i be scared, it doesn't affect me, i have no desire to defend apple or attack samsung, i'm saying what i think based on my personal opinion not because i'm in the church of samsung or apple, i buy the products i think are designed best and perform the functions i need together with my tech, i do not pick based on price.

People who buy solely on cheapest price are fools. This promo is a fools errand.
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Wow, where to even start. Display mate, the web's premier screen analysis website called the s6 screen perfect.. I won't bother going on, your view is so blinkered it's unreal...
 
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billy the fish said:
Wow, where to even start. Display mate, the web's premier screen analysis website called the s6 screen perfect.. I won't bother going on, your view is so blinkered it's unreal...
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Is no one allowed to have a different opinion that you? And then if someone does have a different opinion than you, you slam the person and not the specifics to their statement. If your interested, that's an ad hominem logical fallacy. There is absolutely no way I would call the screen perfect. It's overly saturated and didn't look real-world to me. Just because one person says something is so, doesn't make it so. That's another logical fallacy, sample representation. One person or company doesn't represent the the worlds views.
 
Mlrollin91 said:
Is no one allowed to have a different opinion that you? And then if someone does have a different opinion than you, you slam the person and not the specifics to their statement. If your interested, that's an ad hominem logical fallacy. There is absolutely no way I would call the screen perfect. It's overly saturated and didn't look real-world to me. Just because one person says something is so, doesn't make it so. That's another logical fallacy, sample representation. One person or company doesn't represent the the worlds views.
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Display mate are not about opinions, they use scientific instruments to measure all aspects of colour, density, angles, the full works.. Is the spectrum wrong because you don't like magenta or cyan the shade that they are.. There is no screen that represents the colours of the spectrum as accurate as the s6, note 5, and tab s. Your eyes and your Apple centric bias are what's at fault.. As hard as it is to comprehend, Apple ain't the best at everything, and that has been the case for some time now...
 
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billy the fish said:
Display mate are not about opinions, they use scientific instruments to measure all aspects of colour, density, angles, the full works.. Is the spectrum wrong because you don't like magenta or cyan the shade that they are.. There is no screen that represents the colours of the spectrum as accurate as the s6, note 5, and tab s. Your eyes and your Apple centric bias are what's at fault.. As hard as it is to comprehend, Apple ain't the best at everything, and that has been the case for some time now...
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There you go again. You literally cannot help yourself. You immediately default to attacking the person and not the argument. You could have left it at S6, Note 5 and Tab S, and you would have proven the point you were making. But no, you went ahead and attacked me for being an Apple user. I have no bias. End of story, I believe something looks better to my eyes than something else. That is my personal opinion. Everyone's eyes are different, everyone's eyes see something different. So stop attacking people and attack the argument.

Those that attack the person and not the argument are unconfident in their argument's response, so they have to drag the other person down. I would advise you to research ad hominem and stop using it as the grounds for your arguments. It comes off as immature.
 
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alexgowers said:
I don't think anyone thinks samsung has the best screen especially considering they're pentil and OLED.
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Samsung hasn't used a pentile matrix for a while now. They switched to a new diamond pixel layout with the S5/Note 4.


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http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note5_ShootOut_1.htm

The Best Smartphone Display

The Galaxy Note is the flagship product line where Samsung generally introduces its major OLED display technology improvements and enhancements. While the Galaxy Note 5 screen size and resolution remain the same as the Galaxy Note 4, its display has significantly improved performance. Based on our extensive Lab tests and measurements listed below, the Galaxy Note 5 is the Best performing Smartphone display that we have ever tested. It takes over from the Galaxy Note 4, which was the previous record holder for mobile display performance.
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Mlrollin91 said:
Is no one allowed to have a different opinion that you? And then if someone does have a different opinion than you, you slam the person and not the specifics to their statement. If your interested, that's an ad hominem logical fallacy. There is absolutely no way I would call the screen perfect. It's overly saturated and didn't look real-world to me. Just because one person says something is so, doesn't make it so. That's another logical fallacy, sample representation. One person or company doesn't represent the the worlds views.
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There really are two ways of looking at it. Subjectively (how you experience it) and objectively (The math behind it).

I can get that subjectively, people will have variance of opinions on display. Some people like highly saturated colours, some people like faded, some people like precise. these are subjective decisions

However, you cannot have opinion on the objective mathematics behind displays. And in this regard, the S6 has been found by many testers, using objective measurements to be one of the best, most accurate and pixel dense displays available on the market today.

http://anandtech.com/show/9146/the-samsung-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge-review/4
 
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Mlrollin91 said:
There you go again. You literally cannot help yourself. You immediately default to attacking the person and not the argument. You could have left it at S6, Note 5 and Tab S, and you would have proven the point you were making. But no, you went ahead and attacked me for being an Apple user. I have no bias. End of story, I believe something looks better to my eyes than something else. That is my personal opinion. Everyone's eyes are different, everyone's eyes see something different. So stop attacking people and attack the argument.

Those that attack the person and not the argument are unconfident in their argument's response, so they have to drag the other person down. I would advise you to research ad hominem and stop using it as the grounds for your arguments. It comes off as immature.
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I think you will find old boy that I am more than confident in my argument that the s6 has the most accurate display on the market to date.. The reason why... What's the marketing quote.. "Its not an iPhone". Hence it's the best available..
 
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billy the fish said:
I think you will find old boy that I am more than confident in my argument that the s6 has the most accurate display on the market to date.. The reason why... What's the marketing quote.. "Its not an iPhone". Hence it's the best available..
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I get the sense you are only here to bash iPhone users and Apple as a whole.
 
Mlrollin91 said:
I get the sense you are only here to bash iPhone users and Apple as a whole.
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We are all here to discuss tech mate, good bad and indifferent.. If we all shared the same opinion how dull would that be.. I like to give credit where it's due, praise where it's warranted and criticism when needed.. If I use a firms advertising slogan against it, then it shouldn't have put itself on a pedestal that was too easy to knock over.. Dont get butt hurt over something that doesn't concern you old boy..
 
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Well, I used it as my only phone for weeks, and I have come away incredibly impressed. I want one, badly. Mine goes back today, because as someone else noted, iMessage is just a killer app for me. I also cannot get over the terrible media controls. I can get replacements for everything else I use, and frankly, I've grown to like the customizability but the lack of iMessage when all my friends and family use it kills the deal.

As for the screen, it's the best I've ever seen. It makes the iPhone 6 Plus display look dull and washed out. I had forgotten it was an OLED display a few days ago and watched a trailer in the dark. For a few seconds until it loaded I thought the phone was broken because there was no way to tell the screen was on, so deep are the blacks. It's had such an impact on me that I'm actively shopping for an OLED television now.
 
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