It’s a valid complaint. The “cooling, etc” is already in the computer… adding storage doesn’t add additional hardware for cooling. The “Cost” of adding storage is far, far less than the “Price.”Not worth engaging with this. Apple internal drive at 7x the speed with cooling, etc. — these facts are lost on those that don’t understand the benefits of internal vs external — they just look at price.
Couldn't they have made it just a bit stronger so it could protect from drops up to 10 feet high?plus it offers crush resistance and protection from drops up to 9.8 feet high.
1TB in 1976? Don't think so. The Apple I computer, released in 1976, shipped with 456KB of storage. Kilobytes!Dunno, 1TB in 1976/77?
Well at least thats the last time Apple shipped something not in a nice case.
Good luck with that.If you care so much about speed, go ahead and buy internal one.
Eh? You don’t back up your computer to an internal drive though do you?Not worth engaging with this. Apple internal drive at 7x the speed with cooling, etc. — these facts are lost on those that don’t understand the benefits of internal vs external — they just look at price.
This is super helpful. Every couple months when I'm thinking about getting an external drive, I end up looking at the Samsung drives and waffle on purchasing. This comment is going to change my approach.the T7 is fine for casual users but it lacks DRAM and instead uses a SLC cache. Ive personally seen a massive performance issue that I attribute to this problem. Google it. Better off with Sandisk Extreme.
You can decouple the Fusion drive, assuming it's not already completely hosed. If it's a larger SSD (eg. 128 GB), you can use that as the boot drive.Have two of these and they work great for what they are. Boot off one of these on a computer with problems with the combined SSD/spinning drive.
That's largely due to aluminum exterior and some due to throttling. But imagine you wrap the entire heat exchange surface with rubberI have the regular T7. The T7 doesn’t run hot.
At most the T7 gets warm, even when running at near full tilt for extended periods.
Glad I could help. Irritated me and I asked Amazon to take it back about 5 months in which they did. Not that I wasn't buying like 10k worth of gear a month at the time but nice of them to extend themselves...This is super helpful. Every couple months when I'm thinking about getting an external drive, I end up looking at the Samsung drives and waffle on purchasing. This comment is going to change my approach.
[Shrug]. I still have no interest in an Apple Watch (nm I'd also have to get an iPhone to properly use on), nor any smartwatch, but doesn't mean there isn't a market for this stuff. Since it's slated for outside use, I'm sure those in the field would appreciates such features.Samsung's T7 drives are nice (I have several) but I've never looked at one and thought, "this is great, but why can't they make a version that will still work after I hit with a golf club?"
Its limited by the interface speed not the drive its self lol. USB 3.2 Gen 2 10GB/s speeds because thats all the USB apple supports on most of their USB ports currently. Some machines will do USB 4 but they dont do USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 which many of Samsungs equipment can max out for their NVME's.Are you actually trying to compare low speed external SSD to high speed internal SSD that apple uses?
you should consider getting sabrents external NVME Device that has a 3.2 Gen 2 10 GB/s interface and allows you to put pretty much any NVME inside of it. Irregardless of the NVME drives i put in it, sandisk, topmore, samsung, and my favorite Hynix..Glad I could help. Irritated me and I asked Amazon to take it back about 5 months in which they did. Not that I wasn't buying like 10k worth of gear a month at the time but nice of them to extend themselves...
This kinda spells out the real world performance stack-up:
Samsung T7 Shield Portable SSD Review: Tough and Consistent Portable Storage (Updated)
Samsung’s T7 Shield brings reliability for content capturewww.tomshardware.com
And like I said, I had situations where my T7 was transferring at like 100Mb/sec seemingly inexplicably. I didnt understand how this was possible until I did the research on its crummy DRAM bypass. It looks like the T7 shield performs better and leaves the original T7 "in the dust". Still my money would go elsewhere. The Sandisk. Looks pretty sweet.
It doesn't matter what the drive is capable of doing if it's not doing it, It's not doing it on Apple machines and it's not doing it on PCs.Its limited by the interface speed not the drive its self lol. USB 3.2 Gen 2 10GB/s speeds because thats all the USB apple supports on most of their USB ports currently. Some machines will do USB 4 but they dont do USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 which many of Samsungs equipment can max out for their NVME's.
But to ensure wide compatibility they use a 3.2 Gen 2 interface for 10 GB/s Interface which... is about 1050Mb/s Anyways.
The point is the drive inside is likely capable of pushing 2-4,000 MB/s and has additional hardware AND is significantly cheaper AND has the interface and SSD controller on it.
Apple is pushing 300-400 Approx for a TB on a mac studio without the external interface, no USB interface, and NO SSD controller on it at all. The upgrade to 1TB is 200$ alone so we dont know the exact pricing on the Drives apple initially uses but 300-400$ total is a good bet.
The SKC3000S/1024G is the fastest NVME Card you can get at 7,000 MB/s Read at 174$ currently for 1TB on amazon.
So thats for reference..... Apple significantly charges for more components that can **** you. If the SSD controller dies on the mac studio you need a new MB not a new NVME like how it would on other machines with a replaceable NVME
I mean, I totally agree with your point about apple charging insane prices but there is a huge difference in speed between my MacBook’s SSD and my Samsung T5. I use it at least once a week. It’s not even comparable.Internal ssd is always going to be faster. Yet, it does not have that dramatic real world usage difference.
Don’t make excuses for it; Apple charges too much for SSD upgrade. That is just a fact.
well that is just disgusting behavior on Apples partThis one.
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It's a disgrace that Apple still sells an iMac with a 5400rpm hard disk
Someone needs to tell Apple that we're in the year 2020. 5400rpm hard disks shouldn't be in $1,100 computers.www.imore.com
Great thought. Ive loved their stuff. I am more the purchasing engineer than the user and we have the SSDs we need at the moment. These get used in the field and then dumped into a 16x16 drive Synology 4021xs+ RAID 6 with dual 800gb SSD cache and 2x 10GbE NICs.you should consider getting sabrents external NVME Device that has a 3.2 Gen 2 10 GB/s interface and allows you to put pretty much any NVME inside of it. Irregardless of the NVME drives i put in it, sandisk, topmore, samsung, and my favorite Hynix..
I would max out the USB interface at 1050 MB/s. I keep 2-3 of them connected 24/7 and use some as portables. They have been great.
I has WD/s BLack externals that can hit 20GB/s at 3.2 Gen 2x2 but they randomly disconnect due to the USB controller in them.
The Sabrent External Enclosures haven't caused me any issues on macs or PC's
$160 for a terabyte. How much does Apple charge for a terabyte that doesn’t even come with a nice case around it?
Yes. You are free to make only that choice. Because Apple has intentionally locked out the ability to expand the internal storage on their so-called "workstation" computers after purchase.There’s a difference between a cost and value. You are free to buy the base Mac model and rely primarily on external storage for more space, or pay extra for the convenience of added internal storage and not needing to deal with cables and stuff.
If people are using this computer just for emails, does it really matter?well that is just disgusting behavior on Apples part
I don’t think people are bashing Samsung — I’m certainly not. But to say that Apple is overcharging by pricing over $160/tb based on the price of an external ssd is absurd.External SSD is always going to be slower than internal one due to throughput, better cooling and latency. If you care so much about speed, go ahead and buy internal one. Lots of people just want extra storage with good speed. Why are people bashing Samsung for releasing cheaper external SSD at lower speed? It is undeniable that Apple charges too much for internal storage.