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Samsung Mocks Apple's Decision to Remove the Headphone Jack in iPhone 7
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Pretty sure you don't need to buy Apple external DVD drive. Pretty sure you could buy a cheap one from Amazon. In any case, your use-case doesn't matter to Apple.
This is apple we are talking about. Millions of people will buy new headphones or wireless ones. Apple definitely will not include wireless ones.
I do wonder if they include lightning ones though. I cannot see them release a phone without a 3.5mm jack and including 3.5mm headphones still.
Agreed because you know the Galaxy S8 and Note 8 will not have an audio jack.
These were all obsolete technology (or soon to become obsolete). Flash has always been ****.
There is nothing wrong with the audio jack. That's the problem. It works well, and is used all the time. CD/DVD/Floppy/Flash were all already on their way out due to better options that were on the horizon.
Bluetooth headphones that only last for a day on a charge are not the option. There needs to be a MAJOR advancement in batteries before this is a viable option for a large majority of people. It should happen someday, but it's just too soon in my opinion.
If iTunes didn't screw over my music library so badly by adding DRM back to my DRM Free Tracks (which I paid a premium to get) I would have kicked the iPhone to the curb several years ago. I still may do it, but I'll end up losing a lot of my legally purchased music. But it may be worth it, just to not have to try and rebuild my damn music library once a year. I LOATH iTunes - it gets worse with every update and it's DESTRUCTIVE. I used to love the ease of use, but it's "cloud" services have just screwed me over too many times. I'm pretty sour on all of Apple these days. Tim Cook and Johnny Ive have ruined this company and I've never been one who bought into the "Cult of Jobs."
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Only Apple fans follow every single rumor.
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Only Apple fans follow every single rumor.
Like I said before, how much do you really use your headphones in a day? Because, frankly, the average person doesn't listen to more than an hour or two music a day, which means they have to charge their headphones maybe once week, twice if they're heavy users. That's probably less than you charge your phone.
The only issue you could have is on a long flight, which is the only argument I'm sympathetic too. Seriously, how many hours of continuous audio playback is enough for people to think bluetooth headphones are 'long lasting'
That is exactly what wireless charging is..... The phone itself does not have to plug in. Unless you want to be replacing batteries left and right, it is the best way.
For all you iphone complainers out there that are upset that not every iphone released has massive design changes. The Note 7 is basically a larger Galaxy S7. I don't hear Samsung fans whining about it. Its call refining a great design. Lets not try and reinvent the wheel every year.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Wait until your "average person"- accustomed (probably their entire lives) to just unplugging whatever headphones they use from their iDevice and plugging them into just about anything else- can't do that anymore. Wait until they are flying and want to jack into the seatback video device because something is on and they want to see and hear it. Wait until the cute girl/guy next to them strikes up a conversation and wants to share a video or song with them from a device without a Lightning jack. Wait until they need to listen to some audio on the Mac they already have and realize they forgot or lost the dongle. Wait until they're at some client's office and need to jack into the client's hardware (none of which is going to have a lightning jack). Etc.
It's ALL the other places where one can currently simply & universally connect their headphones and listen that will affect the elite and average alike. If one can get every bit of their audio-listening wants fulfilled by iDevices, THAT is the segment that is unaffected. Everyone else will be inconvenienced to some degree by this change.
This isn't a "just roll with it" and "...and soon nobody will care" change. This is one that will keep affecting everyone who ever wants to use their headphones with anything other than iDevices (including Macs). It will be hassles of being sure you have the dongle with you. It will be hassles of losing the dongle and having to scramble to find another. The bulk of the rest of the world where we use our headphones now will stick with 3.5mm. A segment that wants to "copy" Apple here will embrace USB3C (because Intel will build that right into their chips and it will be the cheaper option vs. licensing Lightning). Either way, we shift from thoroughly ubiquitous "just works" to fragmented, need 1-2 dongles to cover all bases or need 1-3 sets of wires terminating in different jacks.
Hassle. Expense. Inconveniences. Fragmentation. For what exactly? What's in this for us consumers that we don't already have "as is"? iDevices with 3.5mm already support both Bluetooth and Lightning. Anyone who believes either is actually better are not impeded from embracing either alternative... for at least a year+ now. Why hasn't the "average person" already ran to either if they are so superior? My guess: hassle, expense, inconveniences, fragmentation for no real tangible (consumer) gain.
We can pretend if we like... because for some of us, it is apparently our secret job to support Apple no matter what Apple chooses to do... but nobody ever really answers that question of what is in this change for us consumers that we don't already have? We try to spin lies like "waterproofing" as if water only wants to enter round holes but not rectangular ones. We try to spin "stereo" which probably only sounds like stereo if you have access to Pym Particles. We try to spin "all digital" when our ears can only hear analog. Etc. "Average person" or elitist: what is in this change for either? Since Apple is always right, perhaps it's that they can be right for just rolling with whatever Apple wants to serve? What happened to "think different"?
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Except, they have. Go to Amazon and search 'Bluetooth Headphones' multiple products with thousands of reviews with 4+ stars. Many others with hundreds of reviews with 4+ stars. People are embracing bluetooth headphones, despite everything you said. My entire point was talking about bluetooth headphones. If Apple tries to push lighting, then yeah, I agree with everything you're saying. But, i'm focusing only on bluetooth headphones.
Better audio quality for the people who stream compressed music and have MP3s with a bit rate of 128kbs and below which is the extreme vast majority of people using an iPhone?
You don't have to pay 100 bucks for wireless earbuds, and I doubt the price delta for lightening earbuds will be much... there are enough iPhones for the market to adjust. I used these to workout - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017GQ6KI6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 . They are $25. They sound great and stay in my ears well during a workout. I charge them about 1-2 times a week. The last earbuds I bought I paid more for and they didn't last because the cord gets hung on things and eventually breaks. My other headphones are Bose QC25s, and the cord is detachable so possibly they will release a lighting cord... if not, the adapter won't cause me that much of a problem.... annoying at most.
My Dell laptop that my company gave me to use doesn't have a DVD drive. Its not just Apple that has dropped them. I bought a cheap external drive that I use (ironically made by Samsung) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MLXA1KI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 . I had an Apple one that I passed to my daughter because the Apple one would not work if it were plugged in to a hub... had to be directly attached to a Mac. So you don't HAVE to buy expensive Apple peripherals and other companies are dropping the DVD drives. About the only use case that is a real problem is someone that wants to watch DVD movies on their laptop while traveling. But the battery usage of that is high, and much better to use a downloaded version of the movie. I use the Amazon app on my iPad/iPhone to watch movies on planes.
I'm sure they'll include lightening earbuds, so the complaint about not including wireless won't really be valid.
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I don't get the benefits of removing the headphone jack (if true, and highly likely).
Samsung and Sony's proven you can do waterproofing with the port uncovered, and there are some thin devices that still use them. Also, I can use Bluetooth if I want, or resort to reliable passive earphones. Lastly, there's issues with charging (unless iPhone 7 comes with wireless charging, but again - rumor for now).
Samsung and Sony's proven you can do waterproofing with the port uncovered, and there are some thin devices that still use them. Also, I can use Bluetooth if I want, or resort to reliable passive earphones. Lastly, there's issues with charging (unless iPhone 7 comes with wireless charging, but again - rumor for now).
We use the headphone jack while charging all the time. My son sits on the sofa and watches YouTube with headphones and while charging via an external battery on his iphone 6s. So this goes away with the iphone 7 because you won't be able to charge and use wired headphones.
Most of the time old technology gets replaced with newer better technology. But removing the headphone jack is just a money grab for Apple. They stand to make a ton from new lightning accessories.
I see hundreds of people a day on headphones most of the day. (yes at least that many.,)
In our company it is very popular for people to forward their desk phone to their mobile. that way they can listen to music, and take calls all day without switching between a desk phone and a mobile/ipod/etc. (and media services are blocked through the standard network, but are allowed through the company WiFi so people can't stream through their work computers)
So from my perspective the average person seems to use their phone & headphones for many hours a day (8+ at least) something bluetooth just isn't yet ready for. We have many people who try wireless headphones and almost all end up back with wired within a few months because the headset batteries are not recharging as well, get tired of repairing, etc. Wired headphones can relatively cheap, reliable, easy/simple to use, dependable, decent quality in both the mic & headphones, and ultimately the audio needs to come out analog anyways for our ears. Apple may not overall expect to see a decreased number of sales by ditching the headphone port, but I am guessing I could expect to see a decrease in the number of iPhones I see in my day-to-day.
Is your phone plugged in whilst charging? No? It's wireless charging then.. stop nit-picking. Electric current flying thru the air will fry your balls..
Unlike the removal of the other technologies, the removal of the headphone jack is actually a huge deal. Unfortunately customers will likely be swindled into accepting it. Congratulations that you are excited to be required to have proprietary headphones that will only work with one companies devices or to be forced to use inferior Bluetooth headphones.
Trashing someone about something they haven't even done yet seems a little premature and immature.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
OK, next time you're flying, make the bluetooth connection to the seatback video playing device. Next time you meet the cute stranger who wants to share a video or song, ask to make the bluetooth connection to their device and see how ready they are to grant your request. Next time you are at the client's office and they want you to hear the new presentation, request a bluetooth connection to do that and watch their eyes glaze over (if they are not IT people... or even if they are in some cases). Etc.
No doubt Bluetooth works for some people. But 4-star ratings don't mean the world is embracing bluetooth over 3.5mm... it just means the people that have bought those like them. There's also plenty of great reviews for 3.5mm headphones too.
Besides, Bluetooth is not a great answer for everyone. Quality is generally sacrificed. Video latency. Another thing to try to keep charged. Sure, it delivers the benefits of wireless but those come at a cost of quality, experience and certainly relative ubiquitousness.
I'm glad you like your Bluetooth buds. But your happiness & satisfaction is not necessarily transferrable to everyone else. As is, current iDevices let you get your audio as you want it, Lightning believers get theirs as they want it and the 3.5mm crowd get theirs too. This change- whether it's made or not- apparently has no effect on you. But it does affect a LOT of other people.
The person who spent money on high end wired headphones will simply add an adapter to the end of the wire and forget it. "99% "of folks use one set of headphones; thus not the life altering experience some are suggesting. Moreover, those who purchase high end wired headphones are exactly the people who will most appreciate the improvement in sound that the new phone is providing, better speakers, improved wireless, two way DAC, etc.
I'm a student. I use headphones constantly throughout the day when not in class. What am I doing in the library? I'm listening to lectures/music. What am I doing on my way home? I'm listening to podcasts. What am I doing when I'm cooking dinner? I'm listening to music/lecture.
Pretty much all the time.
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No. That is why we have media distributed over the internet. Blueray was never going to be a thing.
I don't understand why someone wouldn't let you connect their bluetooth headset to their phone. Is it really that complicated or personal? I could grant you the issue about flying, but how many flights are people taking during the year? A handful at most. It's a minor inconvenience, and why would you use the in-flight entertainment if you have an iPhone/iPad/Computer? I'll grant you the thing about the clients office, but that's a unique use case that most people never encounter.
I'm not saying a 4-star rating means anything, what I care about is the number of people. Bluetooth is going mainstream. It IS a fading technology. Apple maybe jumping the gun a little bit, but the idea that 3.5mm is somehow not losing ground to bluetooth is silly.
This. I think that's a likely possibility. I posted earlier a link showing that the average person listenings to 4 hours of audio entertainment a day, half of that was AM/FM radio. The rest was related to computer or phone, which I figured would allow for headphone use. So, the typical person 'only' uses headphones 1-2 hours a day.
Why don't you just buy bluetooth headphones? Your son an audiophile?