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Samsung Reportedly Begins Production of 120Hz Display for Upcoming iPhone 13 Pro Models

Premium1 said:
Except why would apple go backwards and remove OLED in the non-pro after introducing it in the 12 series?
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Maybe, if they are really going this way with the non Pro models, their aim is to lower the cost and the price of both 6.1” iPhone and 5.4” iPhone mini. Maybe they think the mini could sell better with a lower price point, and they are going to try one last time.

I am reading that LTPS is a low power IPS LCD panel, even lower than IGZO, so maybe this makes it possible to have a low power screen at a lower price than OLED LTPO.

Just my 2 cents. But I really wish all iPhones come with OLED displays tbh.
 
Populus said:
Maybe, if they are really going this way with the non Pro models, their aim is to lower the cost and the price of both 6.1” iPhone and 5.4” iPhone mini. Maybe they think the mini could sell better with a lower price point, and they are going to try one last time.

I am reading that LTPS is a low power IPS LCD panel, even lower than IGZO, so maybe this makes it possible to have a low power screen at a lower price than OLED LTPO.

Just my 2 cents. But I really wish all iPhones come with OLED displays tbh.
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I could see that but don't think that is going to help. I think the mini's problem was 1. Not as many people want a small device as what some on these forums claim, and 2. the battery was so small that people don't want to have to worry even more about battery life and needing to find a charger.
 
Iconoclysm said:
Perhaps because they're going to go with the mini-LED display technology from the iPad Pro? Or someone's finally going to launch something with micro-LED? OLED is great but it's not a backwards forwards thing.
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So apple said they couldn't put mini-LED in the 11" pro due to not being able to get it down to size, yet you think they are going to put it in a 6" screen? LOL...
 
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Populus said:
Good, good, good... the regular iPhone 13 are getting LTPO displays as well. Great! We’ll probably see always on notifications on the lock screen as a feature for all the iPhone 13 lineup, including the mini. Perfect!

It was worth it the wait. Now please include Touch ID and make this gen one of the more significant leaps on iPhone history.
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Unfortunately no love for the 13 mini :( 💔
 
SnakeEater1993 said:
I am waiting for comments from people who said last year that 120 hz are useless and and a marketing gimmick...Now all of a sudden they are excited for this.
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It’s a marketing ploy for Android-based devices with manufacturer/user set display refresh rates.
Glossy1 said:
I have no idea why I would need a 120hz phone. It makes no sense.
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Some examples:
• Web pages -- which often have a lot of text, small elements, and a wide variety of content that’s not seamless
• Fast-paced games
• Sketching and note taking with Apple Pencil

That’s the beauty of ProMotion, it’s variable. During the majority of usage, the display rate can be low, but instances when it does matter, the rate is cranked up.

My concern is the added cost — has it come down enough to be worthwhile for the majority of people? Those few beneficial cases are even fewer on the iPhone and the iPhone (Pro) price is already $999+ (USD).
 
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Populus said:
As an iPhone user, that had a Motorola five years ago, I’ve always missed some kind of notification led on my smartphone, and I think Apple is late to implement this, but yeah, I’m really happy they are implementing an always on notification system. Better late than never, I guess.
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This?

Get LED flash alerts on your iPhone or iPad - Apple Support

The LED flash next to the camera lens on the back of your iPhone or iPad can blink when your device is locked and you receive a notification. This can be useful for anyone who might miss audible alerts.
support.apple.com support.apple.com
 
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now i see it said:
If you scroll fast on a regular 60hz display, the strobe effect is very noticeable as the screen refreshes 60 times a second. If you scroll really slowly, like snail slow, the motion is smooth because the image on the screen isn't moving very fast.
A 120hz screen when scrolling fast will look as smooth as a 60hz screen scrolling slow
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You’re correct, there are use cases…



😆

My serious response is a couple of posts earlier.
 
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Kulfon said:
Apple is typically the last one to bring new tech
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Apple has many times stated they bring new tech in their springs - not necessarily the first but when matured enough.

firsts:
Incredible glass in their stores, highly recyclable materials, closed loop in terms of source materials, LED backlit keyboards, high resolution, 17” laptops, no floppy drive, no CD/DVD drives, USB (iMac OG), wifi to notebooks, lcd in laptops or desktops.

refined:
High resolution screens, Oled screens with good brightness, smart watches, etc.
 
1rottenapple said:
Mini fan!! I’ll skip this year but next year what determines my purchase is the 5.4 screen and not the 120 display. I have had the promotion iPad display for close to 3 years and I’ve never used my phone and said I’m missing out. I’ll get whatever htz is on the mini.
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News flash. According to several reports the 13 mini is THE last full screen iPhone under 6” :(

I really hope big sales this year changes this decision and I pray Apple heavily markets the mini since more and more countries have citizens getting vaccinated and markets are opening up to allow more people to interact and travel soon publicly.
 
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Apple_Robert said:
I said that last year and I stand by my statement. On such a small screen, ProMotion is not going to make any real difference, except in the mind of those who purchase the device.

I am getting the mini again.
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I'll agree with this. Phones are "1.take out 2.unlock 3.get things done 4.lock and put it in pocket" devices. ProMotion won't be as nice as it is on iPads. Have to see how it affects the battery. I'd personally prefer a secondary E ink display that would let the phone last 4-5 days when one is out hiking.
 
MacCheetah3 said:
It’s a marketing ploy for Android-based devices with manufacturer/user set display refresh rates.

Some examples:
• Web pages -- which often have a lot of text, small elements, and a wide variety of content that’s not seamless
• Fast-paced games
• Sketching and note taking with Apple Pencil

That’s the beauty of ProMotion, it’s variable. During the majority of usage, the display rate can be low, but instances when it does matter, the rate is cranked up.

My concern is the added cost — has it come down enough to be worthwhile for the majority of people? Those few beneficial cases are even fewer on the iPhone and the iPhone (Pro) price is already $999+ (USD).
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It’s useful for reading moving text. I would expect that to be one of the most common thinks people do on their iPhone.
 
GtrDude said:
I would like to see Apple get to a point where they can make their own screens and won't have to sub it out.
Kinda silly to ultimately be supporting your No 1 competitor.
I guess that's why they are always copying each other too.
No charger? Fine. Let's both do that.
Locked phone with no battery access? Fine. Let's both do that.
They both dominate the world.
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It cannot be helped. In today's world, especially in a complex product like a smartphone, you have to collaborate with many other companies, often also your competitor. Eg. Apple paying Qualcomm for patents and modem. Apple cannot even make their own chips nor their own products, relying on Samsung, tsmc, Foxconn, pegatron, etc. Sometimes it's more beneficial that way as it takes a lot of capital to build your own factories/foundries, and then having to deal with the labours.
 
Some examples:
• Web pages -- which often have a lot of text, small elements, and a wide variety of content that’s not seamless
• Fast-paced games
• Sketching and note taking with Apple Pencil
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#1 - I don't read text while scrolling, so it just looks a bit nicer
#2 - Pretty much irrelevant on small phones (diminishing returns)
#3 - Absolutely irrelevant on iPhones (unless Pro Max gets Pencil support)

Still, I don't mind 120Hz on the future iPhones. Especially when it also doubles PWM frequency.
If not, I will probably deactivate it, just like I did with 5G. Battery life is more valuable for me.

I have an iPad Pro, with Pencil, so I know ProMotion well. The difference is nice, but not breathtaking.
 
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4jasontv said:
It’s useful for reading moving text. I would expect that to be one of the most common thinks people do on their iPhone.
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120hz is basically useful for everything you do on a phone. 60hz on a pro device is poor but it is what it is and we will see it this year. It will finally makes the iPhone as smooth as other devices with 120hz.
 
a m u n said:
By the way, Low-Temperature Polycrystalline Oxid, or LTPO, is an OLED display backplane technology developed by Apple.
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Apple has developed the controller for IGZO TFT and OLED sandwich. IGZO tech which is responsible for variable refresh rate on LTPO OLED is developed by JST and so far only two companies have acquired license for it, Sharp and Samsung
 
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