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I said that last year and I stand by my statement. On such a small screen, ProMotion is not going to make any real difference, except in the mind of those who purchase the device.

I am getting the mini again.
Mini fan!! I’ll skip this year but next year what determines my purchase is the 5.4 screen and not the 120 display. I have had the promotion iPad display for close to 3 years and I’ve never used my phone and said I’m missing out. I’ll get whatever htz is on the mini.
 
I can’t wait for the 120hz. I just worry that the screen would be too small for 120hz
 
Personally, I don't care for 120 hz. I have it on my iPad Pro 10.5 and while things are smoother, they are not ground breaking by any means. I see a higher appeal on a tablet to have 120 hz combining with fast pen response, but on the phone - I guess we will see. If 120 hz that brings better battery life, I will welcome the feature, otherwise, I will add this feature to my DISABLE IMMEDIATELY LIST :)
 
This would be awesome if it were variable refresh rate from 1-2 Hz - 240 Hz. 240 being standard for TVs, why can't they do this?
 
This would be awesome if it were variable refresh rate from 1-2 Hz - 240 Hz. 240 being standard for TVs, why can't they do this?
Battery life. You don't have to worry about battery life on TVs, but you do on a tiny device like a phone. Even Samsung put 60Hz as the default for their phones.
 
Why do iPhones get this before desktops and laptops?
Because "Apple's iPhone sales accounted for 53.51 percent of the company's overall revenue in the second quarter of fiscal year 2021, the largest share of all Apple products."

 
Seems like this is the end of the iPhone journey. Now, they will need even better marketing to make you buy another phone, or they will introduce even more planned obsolescence, like suddenly slower scrolling speed after updating to a “security” iOS release.

After this, all new iPhones will solely be about smaller notches, CPU/GPU/NPU and camera updates…exciting times…exciting times…

The innovation hit a granite wall, and the wall wins.
What are you talking about?! Lmaoooo.

I’ll never understand comments like these.
 
I said that last year and I stand by my statement. On such a small screen, ProMotion is not going to make any real difference, except in the mind of those who purchase the device.

I am getting the mini again.

this statement makes sense in the mind of someone who hasn't experienced what this is like for themselves, and has joined the armada of people who have arbitrarily decided that higher refresh rates are either useless or "can't be seen."

but it's okay, you people do this every single time better display technology comes out. the next iteration is always something that has no purpose and supposedly no one can even see it.

and that's why current gen console gamers are clamoring for their games to be in 60fps, their competitive titles should push 120fps, but for years when only 30fps was possible for them the statement was "ohhhhhh 60fps doesnt make a difference. it's only in your mind!"

lmfao okay. move along now.
 
Ok, I just read the piece of news again. Now I’m sad, why can’t we get a low power display in the regular iPhone lineup??

Damn, my hype has fallen down. I really wanted a low refresh rate display for always on notifications.

By the way, you forgot a comma: “No, only pro models get LTPO”, otherwise I could misunderstand you.

Chances are will be on the 2022 models
 
this statement makes sense in the mind of someone who hasn't experienced what this is like for themselves, and has joined the armada of people who have arbitrarily decided that higher refresh rates are either useless or "can't be seen."

but it's okay, you people do this every single time better display technology comes out. the next iteration is always something that has no purpose and supposedly no one can even see it.

and that's why current gen console gamers are clamoring for their games to be in 60fps, their competitive titles should push 120fps, but for years when only 30fps was possible for them the statement was "ohhhhhh 60fps doesnt make a difference. it's only in your mind!"

lmfao okay. move along now.
Refresh rate on such a small screen isn't going to be noticeable like it is on t.v. That is a fact. If you read and reply to my post in the proper context it was written, there would be no need to bring up console gaming units etc. as I didn't say all refresh rates are of no use.

I am not part of "you people. " I speak for myself.

Telling me to move along to somewhere else is rude. I post where I want when I want.
 
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Except why would apple go backwards and remove OLED in the non-pro after introducing it in the 12 series?
Perhaps because they're going to go with the mini-LED display technology from the iPad Pro? Or someone's finally going to launch something with micro-LED? OLED is great but it's not a backwards forwards thing.
 
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Because iPhones drive the most revenue and profit... and volume. The volume of the iPhone means the cost of the tech can be drawn down more quickly over a shorter period of time. Desktops and laptops wouldn't generate the volume to drive component costs lower. Apple's panel component pricing with Samsung has been based on purchases of guaranteed quantities that come with financial penalties if the quantities aren't met. Phones get them closer to meeting the requirements. Desktops and laptops would not.

Apple could have gotten into manufacturing a long time ago. They smartly didn't and probably never will. Manufacturing is a cost intensive, usually low margin endeavor that would eat into Apple's profits quickly. It only works at really high volumes. Volumes that Apple couldn't meet with their own products. We all know Apple wouldn't be manufacturing for others. It's the reason Samsung supplies panels for so many different vendors. It's the reason LG does all the OLED panels for every TV vendor. It only makes sense with a large customer base.

Manufacturing facilities have to be maintained and that maintenance costs... a lot. Apple doesn't have those costs on their books and, as I said, I doubt they ever will. It makes not sense for them to carry that kind of overhead.

They were in manufacturing in the 80's, there are plenty of stories of Steve Jobs visiting those factories with a white glove to ensure they were as clean as the factories in Kyoto. Apple was the last of the US computer manufacturers to move manufacturing to China, and it will likely never come back.
 
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Refresh rate on such a small screen isn't going to be noticeable like is on t.v. That is a fact. If you read and reply to my post in the proper context it was written, there would be no need to bring up console gaming units etc. as I didn't say all refresh rates are of no use.

I am not part of "you people. " I speak for myself.

Telling me to move along to somewhere else is rude. I post where I want when I want.

that discussion was over with my comment. whatever you might have said here is unimportant.
 
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My iPhone X is crappy indoors but I wouldn’t blame that on the modem, more like T-Mobile. But most of my calls in my house are good and I call my family on WhatsApp most of the time.
I had the same problem with T-Mobile regardless of cellphone. When i was outside i would get 4 signal bars but as soon as i walked into my apartment building the signal bars disappear and “No Service” would appear, now i get 3 to 4 signal bars in my apartment with AT&T. I have run into people who rave about how great T-Mobile is but for me they are worthless because i do not want have to stand outside everytime to make a phone call.
 
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Because apple says you need it! Jk me neither but I won’t complain if the next 2023 mini has it.
I’m sad to inform you that this 2021 iPhone lineup is the last one offering a 5.4” model. The iPhone 13 (or iPhone 12S) will be the last one with a mini model.

Starting on September 2022 the new iPhone lineup will consist of two 6.1” iPhone (pro and no pro) and two 6.7” iPhone (pro and no pro).

Thats the reason I will definitely buy my iPhone 13 mini this fall, and won’t look back (and forward).
 
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