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Samsung Reportedly Dethrones Apple as Top Smartphone Vendor in Q3 2011

lilo777 said:
Nope. iPhone 4S has nothing on SGSII there. In fact, when PC World tested the two phones they gave higher marks to SGSII. But both phones were close in these tests. Some reviewers may rand iPhone 4S higher but again not by much which means that the two cameras are equally good or bad depending on what the standard is ;)). Some reviewers also falsely claim that SGSII does not have image stabilization. It does. In fact, every other flagship (for the given manufacturer) smartphone on the market has image stabilization. Nobody trumpets it though because digital stabilization is mostly a gimmick. Apple made a big fuss about it during their presentation probably because the phone did not have much on iPhone 4 otherwise.
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Really? Then the image stabilization on my S2 must be broken then. Because it sucks compared to the 4s. What by the way also sucks is its battery life, the way over saturated screen and the lousy sound quality. The Loudspeaker is mediocore and when you plug in a high quality headphone, you get a mushy wah wah sound. For somebody who likes to use the phone as a iPod, the iPhone is miles ahead. No, really, the S2 is not a bad phone and the big screen makes it nice for people with larger hands, but it is certainly not the holy grail of mobile products.

I really have to laugh about this thread. The typical Apple Haters march up. Samsung sells more Smartphones (23 different models..) than Apple - conclusion: Apple loses and btw nobody prevents Apple from building a cheap Smartphone.

Next quarter: Apple will have the throne back with 4s sales. Then the same suspects will argue that Apple sells less devices compared to Android, therefore technically Apply lost again :rolleyes:
 
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Burger Thing said:
Really? Then the image stabilization on my S2 must be broken then. Because it sucks compared to the 4s. What by the way also sucks is its battery life, the way over saturated screen and the lousy sound quality. The Loudspeaker is mediocore and when you plug in a high quality headphone, you get a mushy wah wah sound. For somebody who likes to use the iPhone as a iPod, the iPhone is miles ahead. No, really, the S2 is not a bad phone and the big screen makes it nice for people with larger hands, but it is certainly not the holy grail of mobile products.

I really have to laugh about this thread. The typical Apple Haters march up. Samsung sells more Smartphones (23 different models..) than Apple - conclusion: Apple loses and btw nobody prevents Apple from building a cheap Smartphone.

Next quarter: Apple will have the throne back with 4s sales. Then the same suspects will argue that Apple sells less devices compares to Android, therefore technically Apply lost again :rolleyes:
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Not to mention Siri. I am finding Siri a great tool, it really makes the user experince that much better.
 
Taz Mangus said:
If they were truely sales then they would have reported sales and not shipped numbers. And now you are going to tell me Samsung has no way of knowing how many phones they sold. Yes it must be a conspriacy :rolleyes:
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What this has to do with conspiracy is beyond me...

They're a hardware company, not a retailer. Shouldn't you be blaming telecom companies for not disclosing exactly how many units of each phone are being sold?
 
bbplayer5 said:
Which completely applies to this. GS2 is awesome and the Galaxy Nexus will sell a TON too. Apple better be remodeling.
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Too bad that the GS2 has a sucky battery life. The Specs put the max battery life at just at 3 hours. That's one thing that the Iphone (Among other things) and Ipads have been able to do pretty good on is Power management. Yeah. I kinda wonder about Samsung being a competitor and Manufacturer of Apple's Processors. Sounds like a conflict of interest to me.
 
*LTD* said:
There is no comparison whatsoever.

Never mind the 23 models. Samsung sells 68 Galaxy models (including a few tablets.)

http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sQuickSearch=yes&sName=samsung+galaxy

Just filter the search to your heart's content:

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung-phones-f-9-10.php
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You know, I don't get this whole "OMG THEY SELL A MILLION+ MODELS. BAD SAMSUNG BAD" sentiment. I mean, I understand it for Vista: you walk into a BestBuy and wonder what on earth the the difference between them is besides their box colours.

When I walk into a Rogers dealer though, I'm not faced with a bewildering array of 68 Galaxy phones (well it's obviously not that high, clearly you couldn't be bothered enough to actually visit the link and notice a. many of them are tablets and b. some of them were released years ago and are no longer sold). In fact, no carrier here in Canada sells more than around four Samsung smartphones at any given moment.

Wait what's that, they sell more than one iPhone as well? Three of them?? I see...
 
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jhende7 said:
So you don't have an iPhone? Then I must politely ask why you are posting on this forum? Surely someone who doesn't own an Apple product shouldn't be spending there time posting on an Apple centric site right? That is unless you own some other Apple product such as a mac. But then, this begs the question..why are you posting in an iPhone thread when you don't have an iPhone?

I think your time might be better served going to an android site to post, because you'll be surrounded by more like minded people who share your beliefs.

I mean, I'm not a religious person but I don't think it's my job to go around to churches and preach my agnostic ways. Why? Because that would be demonstrating very odd, perhaps unhealthy behavior.

You have yourself a fine evening sir.
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And I must politely tell you - none of your business. Apparently you think Apple is a religion. Does it replace a real one for you? BTW, I am agnostic too.
 
lilo777 said:
And I must politely tell you - none of your business. Apparently you think Apple is a religion. Does it replace a real one for you? BTW, I am agnostic too.
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Why does it matter to you? Maybe because your religion is to come here and spread anti Apple stuff? :rolleyes:

Your very much one sided attitude in your postings for the last months/years seem to reflect this.
 
jhende7 said:
So you don't have an iPhone? Then I must politely ask why you are posting on this forum? Surely someone who doesn't own an Apple product shouldn't be spending there time posting on an Apple centric site right? That is unless you own some other Apple product such as a mac. But then, this begs the question..why are you posting in an iPhone thread when you don't have an iPhone?
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So, I can't post in a thread about Mac Pro computers speculating about their updates because I don't have a Mac Pro?

Do you have a Samsung phone? Because this thread is not a iPhone thread, is a Samsung smartphones trhread and you can't write here following your logic

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Taz Mangus said:
If they were truely sales then they would have reported sales and not shipped numbers. And now you are going to tell me Samsung has no way of knowing how many phones they sold. Yes it must be a conspriacy :rolleyes:
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Ups, Samsung doesn't report nothing
 
Oletros said:
Why people exaggerate in a such manner to try to make a point making them unbelieveble?
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OK, I bite. Last night, I unplugged my S2 from the charger around 11 pm. I typed 6 SMS and browsed a few minutes in the web. Then I went to bed and the phone was just laying there. In the morning i typed 3 more sms, no calls, no browsing. This noon around 12 o'clock, my battery low alarm came on. A few minutes later I plugged it back into the charger. Battery was down to 13 %.

And yes, if you use the phone a lot, Internet browsing and such, the battery life of 3 hours is not far off. I normally leave home with a fully charged battery. 30 min of browsing in the bus to work to the airport, and voila, battery is down already to 80%.
 
Burger Thing said:
OK, I bite. Last night, I unplugged my S2 from the charger around 11 pm. I typed 6 SMS and browsed a few minutes in the web. Then I went to bed and the phone was just laying there. In the morning i typed 3 more sms, no calls, no browsing. This noon around 12 o'clock, my battery low alarm came on. A few minutes later I plugged it back into the charger. Battery was down to 13 %.
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Did you go to settings > battery use to see what has caused such a drain? That seems way excessive to me.
 
Burger Thing said:
OK, I bite. Last night, I unplugged my S2 from the charger around 11 pm. I typed 6 SMS and browsed a few minutes in the web. Then I went to bed and the phone was just laying there. In the morning i typed 3 more sms, no calls, no browsing. This noon around 12 o'clock, my battery low alarm came on. A few minutes later I plugged it back into the charger. Battery was down to 13 %.

And yes, if you use the phone a lot, Internet browsing and such, the battery life of 3 hours is not far off. I normally leave home with a fully charged battery. 30 min of browsing in the bus to work to the airport, and voila, battery is down already to 80%.
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Doesn't Android have some sort of graph that shows the battery usage history? It'd be nice if you could post a screenshot of this...
 
krzyglue said:
Doesn't Android have some sort of graph that shows the battery usage history? It'd be nice if you could post a screenshot of this...
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It does. He can even grab a screenshot and attach it to the forums directly via his GSII if he wants to like I have.
One of the first things I would have done is checked what was causing the drain.
 

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Burger Thing said:
OK, I bite. Last night, I unplugged my S2 from the charger around 11 pm. I typed 6 SMS and browsed a few minutes in the web. Then I went to bed and the phone was just laying there. In the morning i typed 3 more sms, no calls, no browsing. This noon around 12 o'clock, my battery low alarm came on. A few minutes later I plugged it back into the charger. Battery was down to 13 %.

And yes, if you use the phone a lot, Internet browsing and such, the battery life of 3 hours is not far off. I normally leave home with a fully charged battery. 30 min of browsing in the bus to work to the airport, and voila, battery is down already to 80%.
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I'd suggest you return your phone as it sounds faulty to me. I'm running a totally stock ROM and can easily get a full days use with medium usage.

With minor tweaks (Green Power app to control wifi and 3G) I can nearly get two days.

Also, have you flashed a custom ROM? If so, have you reset the battery stats?
 
Taz Mangus said:
Interesting how the first ad attracted 4 million people in the first three days. So you have me one that one. All those 4 million people must have bought the iPhone 4S based solely on hardware specs :rolleyes:
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I never said all 4 million bought on specs. In fact, you misread my post if you think I did.

I just stated that we can't state as fact what is the most popular reason to buy a smartphone above another. You can't say "the majority buys based on ..." or "majority doesn't buy on ..." as fact without proper citation.

You can say "I don't think people buy based on hardware specs" or "I think people buy based on the look". That's fine, as you are stating a subjective opinion, not an objective fact.

The only issue with your constant "majority doesn't buy based on specs" is that you keep stating it as fact without any proof to back it up.

Just understand the nuance about what is a fact and what is an opinion.

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Taz Mangus said:
Not to mention Siri. I am finding Siri a great tool, it really makes the user experince that much better.
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I'm finding Siri is a gimmick and is limited. The "natural" language bit is overrated, it understands quite a few more keywords than the old Voice Control, but it's still very much keyword based (it doesn't understand things like "nevermind" or "forget it", only "cancel" to stop an action before completing it). It's also quite inefficient in most cases, where just typing out the search query in Google is faster with the Safari search bar. Same for e-mails or text messages.

I've also had bugs with it (though that's normal it being Beta. Apple taking a page out of the Google book ?).

Really, the iPhone 4S is great, the hardware specs make it screamingly fast, it plays 3D games like a champ. Siri was just something they threw on top it seems so that they had more than just a camera and a new SoC to announce.

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Burger Thing said:
OK, I bite. Last night, I unplugged my S2 from the charger around 11 pm. I typed 6 SMS and browsed a few minutes in the web. Then I went to bed and the phone was just laying there. In the morning i typed 3 more sms, no calls, no browsing. This noon around 12 o'clock, my battery low alarm came on. A few minutes later I plugged it back into the charger. Battery was down to 13 %.

And yes, if you use the phone a lot, Internet browsing and such, the battery life of 3 hours is not far off. I normally leave home with a fully charged battery. 30 min of browsing in the bus to work to the airport, and voila, battery is down already to 80%.
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Sounds like the iPhone to me. My 3GS never had great battery, same for the iPhone 4S. Just playing around Safari while on the bus drains several percentage points.

Let's face it, these are small devices with small batteries, yet they are more potent than desktop PCs we had some 8 years ago. You can't expect them to not be power hungry.
 
Shipped does not equal sold. Ask HP how their tablet went. They shipped 200,000 and sold 20,000...
 
mattlol said:
hahaha you apple fanboys are hilarious
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LOL Im with you. It just makes me laugh. Most of these posts I read kinda all sound the same. Sounds like people have to defend the iphone and why Android has more sales or whatever. Who cares. Buy the phone you want, and enjoy it. Its a phone!
 
troop231 said:
Quality > Quantity
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So, Apple fanboys has reverted back to this chant again now.
It has been used for the PC market to "explain" that the insane market share of Windows is meaningless.
Then Apple fanboys did a 180 and started with "The iPhone has sold a gazillion, so it's obviously the best since it's what people wants".
And now that (if this is the case) Samsung beats Apple in sales numbers you do another 180.
 
Dmunjal said:
This is a market share game.
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Why?

Some basic advantages of more market share are generally:
- More money. Not in this market, Apple is making more profits.
- More developers. Nope, Apple has the advantage there as well.
- More accessories. Apple, again. Despite lower market share.

Multiple vendors with multiple models with better pricing is how the PC beat the Mac in the 90s. I'm worried that history is repeating itself.
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History repeating itself? Are you just missing the part of your statement that has changed? Android phones do not have a significant pricing advantage.

Combined with the advantages listed above, Apple's position is nothing like their position with the Mac in the 90s.
 
BaldiMac said:
Why?

Some basic advantages of more market share are generally:
- More money. Not in this market, Apple is making more profits.
- More developers. Nope, Apple has the advantage there as well.
- More accessories. Apple, again. Despite lower market share.



History repeating itself? Are you just missing the part of your statement that has changed? Android phones do not have a significant pricing advantage.

Combined with the advantages listed above, Apple's position is nothing like their position with the Mac in the 90s.
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But, if Android phones don't have a significant pricing advantage how are you going to use the "Android phones are just cheap plastic junk for people who can't afford an iphone"-argument?
 
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