Here we go again with this hardware spec non-sense.
Non-sense to you maybe. It's still a fact that aside from the GPU and camera, the iPhone 4S shipped with outdated specs. However, I wouldn't trade the SGX543MP2 for anything else right now.
Here we go again with this hardware spec non-sense.
Anything that disagrees with your opinion can't be real.It was posted on an Android fan site. I doubt they were making up stats to make Apple good.
First, I posted those benchmarks as examples. Feel free to search for more. Second, you seem to have ignored the GLBenchmark.
Except your whole point was that the iPhone 4S is outdated.
The only spec where iPhone 4S is better than SGSII is GPU.
Non-sense to you maybe. It's still a fact that aside from the GPU and camera, the iPhone 4S shipped with outdated specs. However, I wouldn't trade the SGX543MP2 for anything else right now.
Non-sense to me and a majority of 4 million people who also bought the iPhone 4S. Most users could care less about hardware specs. Hardware specs don't sell phones. Some people still don't understand that.
I bought the iPhone 4S based on its specs (ie, the GPU). What makes you think your anecdotal opinion is better than mine ?
And I said a majority. I did not say everyone. Sorry if you don't understand the difference between the two.
And I said a majority. I did not say everyone. Sorry if you don't understand the difference between the two.
The only spec where iPhone 4S is better than SGSII is GPU. SGSII has much faster CPU and it wins in all those browsing tests when tested with a browser that utilized both CPU cores. iPhone 4S is slower in browsing, app loading, WiFi and 3G performance.
Camera.
I think to some degree you're right. But I also think you're wrong. And here's why...
To the uninformed masses - marketing has taught them that bigger is better.
That's why you have people buying 14MP cameras when all they do is post on facebook and would be more than fine with a 3MP
That's why they'll choose the TV with a 1,000,000:1 contrast ration when it's completely meaningless.
It's why people will buy a powerhouse specced up computer when all they do is their taxes and surf the net.
On some level specs don't matter because they are a foreign language. But when push comes to shove and someone doesn't understand the tech - they can and will be more impressed with better specs when "sold"
I never said you said everyone, I put into question your use of majority. What makes you think the majority didn't buy the iPhone 4S based on specs ? (the camera with 1080p video recording, the dual-core A5 processor with best in class GPU, the augmented storage capacity of 64 GB). Face it, that's your opinion, stop trying to push it as fact.
Fact : I bought the iPhone 4S based on specs.
Also, you do realise that the majority of smartphones buyers do not buy iPhones right ? If all those other phones are sold based on specs, and the majority of buyers buys these other phones... wouldn't it stand to reason the majority do go for specs, and it's the minority that doesn't that buys iPhones ?
Frankly, no one knows why people really buy smartphones and what makes them choose the model they do end up with. There's probably a variety of factors of which all are probably equally represented, including : software lock-in, phone specs, user experience, cool marketing, visual appeal of the handset, etc.. etc..
There's no single truth like you try to claim there is. Hence why every eco-system is mostly doing well (Android, iOS, Windows Phone, BB) and why most vendors are also selling tons of units. Apple is not the only one having success in this space. They happen to be one of the successful players, along with Samsung, RIM, HTC, Nokia, Motorola, LG and others. Some are declining, some are on an upswing, but for now, it's going somewhat well for everyone.
It must really must irk you thinking of the 4 million users who decided to buy the iPhone 4S over an Android phone. And to think these same people could have had a BOGO Android phone offer![]()
Why? There are 7 billion people on Earth. Do you know how many of them did not buy iPhone 4S? Is must be irking you really bad, right? The fact that people buy twice as much Android phones must be hurting you too. Or the fact that Samsung sold more smart phones in Q3 than Apple, how bad is that?
The only thing that would hurt me is if I had a bad phone but I don't. I have Galaxy SII.
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Don't forget the high return rate. 2 people i know that bought the SG2 are returning them.
So you don't have an iPhone? Then I must politely ask why you are posting on this forum? Surely someone who doesn't own an Apple product shouldn't be spending there time posting on an Apple centric site right? That is unless you own some other Apple product such as a mac. But then, this begs the question..why are you posting in an iPhone thread when you don't have an iPhone?
I think your time might be better served going to an android site to post, because you'll be surrounded by more like minded people who share your beliefs.
I mean, I'm not a religious person but I don't think it's my job to go around to churches and preach my agnostic ways. Why? Because that would be demonstrating very odd, perhaps unhealthy behavior.
You have yourself a fine evening sir.
Fact still remains, hardware specs do not sell phones. Try to spin anyway you want.
So you don't have an iPhone? Then I must politely ask why you are posting on this forum?
It must really must irk you thinking of the 4 million users who decided to buy the iPhone 4S over an Android phone. And to think these same people could have had a BOGO Android phone offer![]()
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Don't forget the high return rate. 2 people i know that bought the SG2 are returning them.
10 more. I'm not going back and forth with you. Nothing against you as a person, might be a cool cat. I do not remotely echo any of your Apple glorification.
It did not work in the 80's and 90's, people get bored with stuff over time. People dont want to pay high dollar forever, one bad experience its done. Apple are not set in business or in pro markets (as much) linux and custom software is used at ILM and Pixar. Gates would make 5x as much with the IMAGE Apple has. IMO.
Why on earth is this "BOGO" claim still thrown around so much. Show me where I can buy a Galaxy SII and get another for free, and I'll be all over it.
Actually, you're wrong. In business, the bottom line is profits, and Samsung is definitely NOT the one with the profits.
Or the fact that Samsung SHIPPED more smart phones in Q3 than Apple, how bad is that?
There I fixed it for you. Shipped does not mean sales made to customers, it means phones that are shipped to stores and are sitting on store shelves waiting to be sold to customers.
Citation needed.
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I think you don't quite understand the meaning of the word fact.
Samsung must have the most brilliant marketing team in the world then, if they are able to convince retailers to perpetually order far more stock than they sell. Alternately, you are accusing Samsung, a large multi-national conglomerate, of either ordering massive production runs of phones they know have no hope of selling or just cooking their numbers.
Regardless, I do remember reading that Apple's numbers don't quite correspond exactly to "phones in consumer's hands" either.
From Marco Arment, via Daring Fireball:
http://www.marco.org/2011/10/20/how-to-bring-good-design-to-a-platform
http://daringfireball.net/
How to bring good design to a platform
October 20, 2011 ∞
- Demonstrate from the top that high quality and attention to detail are prioritized and appreciated above everything else, including being the first to market, having the most features, or having the most aggressive prices. If you can get those as well, thats great, but quality will not be sacrificed to do so.
- Instill these values in your staff. If you cant, hire a staff for which you can. Better yet, hire a staff for which you dont need to.
- Aggressively pursue simplification, elegance, craftsmanship, and the highest-class user experiences in the product line. Ruthlessly cut or hold features or entire products that arent good enough.
- Make it pretty.
How not to bring good design to a platform
Skip steps 13 above.
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Apple pretty much has the next decade in the bag. All they have to do
to remain the consumers' favourite is to respect their own values.