Samsung Reveals Extent of Note7 Battery Fire Investigation

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Samsung held a press conference on Monday in which it revealed the results of its internal investigation into why some of its Galaxy Note7 handsets set on fire. Last week, leaked reports confirmed the battery was to blame, but Samsung took pains today to explain the thoroughness of its investigation, which involved over 700 engineers and data gathered from testing 200,000 phones and 30,000 Note7 batteries.

    In addition to enlisting the help of two independent testing labs, the Korean company built a large-scale test facility to automate different charging and discharging scenarios, which was able to replicate the failures of consumer handsets. Absolutely everything was examined, said Samsung, from hardware and software design, to manufacturing and logistics.

    Samsung's Note7 test facility.

    Samsung said that two separate flaws were to blame for some batteries setting on fire in both original and replacement phones. The original Note7 battery had a design flaw in the top-right corner that was liable to short-circuit, while the batteries in replacement units were prone to combustion because of a welding defect. Some handsets were also missing insulation tape. For those interested, the company also released an infographic explaining the findings in more detail.

    Going forward, Samsung said it was introducing an 8-point Battery Safety Check that includes additional inspection and testing. The firm also said it was improving training for all battery handlers across its assembly and shipping chains. In addition, it explained that more space would be allowed around the batteries in its handsets to protect them from impact-related failures, and said it would take steps to improve its battery diagnostic and controller software.
    Samsung confirmed that the changes would arrive in the forthcoming Galaxy S8, but told reporters not to expect its mid-cycle phone to make its usual appearance at the Mobile World Congress, held annually in February. No timeframe was given for the launch of the S8, suggesting Samsung is being careful not to put itself under undue pressure for its comeback after last year's Note7 debacle, which was said to be a result of the company trying to beat Apple's iPhone 7 to market.

    Article Link: Samsung Reveals Extent of Note7 Battery Fire Investigation
  2. swm macrumors regular

    May 29, 2013
    proper subtitle for the picture above: 3.. 2.. 1..
  3. steve23094 macrumors 68030


    Apr 23, 2013
    It's good they are being pretty open about it. Not so good it happened in the first place. I wonder how many other manufacturers could have these problems?
  4. Kajje macrumors 6502a


    Dec 6, 2012
    So it *was* the battery. Who would have thought?
  5. Bane-Thunder macrumors 6502

    Mar 12, 2014
  6. underkuerbis macrumors member

    Mar 14, 2011
    Bremen, Germany
    First image from Final Destination 6 released!
  7. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

    Relentless Power

    Jul 12, 2016
    "The original Note7 battery had a design flaw in the top-right corner that was liable to short-circuit, while the batteries in replacement units were prone to combustion because of a welding defect. Some handsets were also missing insulation tape."

    I think this article says it all. Samsung rushed the Note 7 and it's quality control suffered. Some of the devices for missing insulation tape is a tell tale sign this should have never happened and is unacceptable.

    The biggest take away these other phone manufacturers can learn from Samsung's mistake, is to Put out a quality device, even if it means it's not going beat the other phone competitor first.
  8. JaySoul macrumors 68030


    Jan 30, 2008
    There is (understandably) a lot of schadenfreude about this whole debacle.

    BUT it's a good thing in wider context for every industry using Lithium batteries. Hopefully all manufacturers will be even more careful now.
  9. pppx3 macrumors member


    Apr 19, 2016
    I blame consumers. No seriously. We want it cheap and fast... result = companies will make them cheap and fast... result = poor quality control.
  10. Santabean2000 macrumors 68000


    Nov 20, 2007
    Looks like they did it properly. In the end...

    Good to get some answers though.
  11. Vorkeyjones macrumors member


    Aug 20, 2016
    So the replacement batteries had a completely different fault? LOL
  12. Chicane-UK macrumors 6502

    Apr 26, 2008
    Holy moly... that's a lot of phones on test! Have to admire Samsung for being so open and so thorough about this.
  13. miniyou64 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 8, 2008
    Free markets. It happens. Samsung will learn the lesson and quality will go back up.
  14. keysofanxiety macrumors G3


    Nov 23, 2011
    I have to admire their balls to set up a facility like that. :D
  15. moxin macrumors regular


    Feb 25, 2011
    the fire rises (Bane's voice)
  16. pika2000 macrumors 603

    Jun 22, 2007
    Well, the Note 7 was Samsung's most expensive phone.
    Meanwhile, we have numerous cheap Xiaomi phones that don't seem to have issues.

    It only shows that mistakes happen. The key is how to address it. Samsung didn't act accordingly at first until the US government put a firmer note. With the whole scandal in S. Korea to add, now Samsung is acting better, being transparent.
  17. elmaco macrumors 6502

    Jun 5, 2012
    That's the price you pay for not copying Apple.
  18. djcerla, Jan 23, 2017
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2017

    djcerla macrumors 68000


    Apr 23, 2015
    Just call it with its name: incompetence.

    That wasn't a battery production issue, but a battery design one.
  19. efktd macrumors 6502


    Sep 29, 2011
    "Samsung mobile head DJ Koh told Recode"

    I wonder what kind of music he spins.
  20. Kajje macrumors 6502a


    Dec 6, 2012
    200,000 Note 7's... I would have loved to see the satellite footage of that giant fireball coming out of that test facility.
  21. Exhale macrumors 6502

    Sep 20, 2011
    Just basic QA faults. All it takes though.
  22. Chicane-UK macrumors 6502

    Apr 26, 2008
    Haha... of the 700 engineers, 600 were stood just out of shot armed with fire extinguishers ;)
  23. kdarling, Jan 23, 2017
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2017

    kdarling macrumors P6


    Jun 9, 2007
    First university coding class = 47 years ago
    It doesn't mean that at all. Nobody tests phones for battery failures like this, certainly not on the scale that would've been necessary to find these relatively rare occurences ahead of time.

    If you mean announcing a voluntary recall before the CPSC did, that's actually not unusual. Heck, Apple themselves have done the same thing before, but nobody made a big fuss over them doing it.

    That is definitely a lot of phones under test! Kudos for them building such a facility to figure things out.

    I once helped design and build a rack to test the functionality of 100 touchscreen computers at a time, and we thought that was a lot :cool:

    For comparison, remember this leaked photo of a casual iPhone 5C test rack at their factory, with just a few dozen production units under test at a time?

  24. Tech198 macrumors G5

    Mar 21, 2011
    Australia, Perth
  25. moeafg macrumors member

    Mar 31, 2014
    Short circuit issue in the first battery, welding defect in the second... I actually don't believe that is the case. Samsung probably do not know the issue and needed to put the blame on something obvious. Let's see the "lesson they have learnt" when the S8 explodes.

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