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I have a 15 year old Samsung A-650 foldable phone, one of the first cell phones with a camera. It still folds just fine, boots up, and the battery still charges. If I could find a replacement battery I'd reactivate the phone with my carrier and carry it around just for the novelty. Here's a photo of one for sale (not mine, which I'll keep.). It was sort of novel to watch people's reaction when you asked them to pose for phone.

https://www.iretron.com/Cell-Phones/Samsung/Samsung-SCH-A650;2653
Folding a screen is not the same as folding a hinge.
 
Based on what I have seen released from the company.

Well the article I posted shows you are wrong.
"Regardless, Koh’s statements are painting a new culture forming in Samsung Mobile. “When it’s ready” will be the new mantra instead of launching early and seeing which sticks and what doesn’t."

No, not every feature is gimmicky, but it can be at first. Usually a feature is worked on and perfected over time. Fast charging, like you mentioned, was part of the reason Samsung phones blew up a few years back.

Incorrect. The phones blew up because of battery defect that had no relation to fast charging.

They probably should have taken their time with that instead of rushing it out the door so they could be first.
Note 7 was an iterative phone with not a lot of new features. There is no information to confirm it was rushed.

Apple is working on foldable displays, new battery tech, micro LED, stuff like that. If you think Samsung is the only innovator out there, that’s fine, sounds like you are on the platform you should be.
Oh Microled, I forgot about that, Samsung will have the first commercial available Microled product in Q1 2019.
Also the foldable displays they are working on are the ones they bought from Samsung most likely.
 
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samsung develops this first
then apple makes some superficiai changes and beautifies it
then samsung says "APPLE COPIED US" but also makes the same changes as Apple

corrected it for ya.
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3 years Apple will copy it, sure it will be better... apples only inovation now days is talking emojis.

Don't forget Apple Watch bands.
 
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Like many here my first thought is how many folds/unfolds before stress causes the screen to fail?
 
I have a hard time believing the durability is there yet.

I get the feeling they are racing this to market because its the first gimmick that will mean something to consumers in a long time.
 
Well the article I posted shows you are wrong.



Incorrect. The phones blew up because of battery defect that had no relation to fast charging.


Note 7 was an iterative phone with not a lot of new features. There is no information to confirm it was rushed.


Oh Microled, I forgot about that, Samsung will have the first commercial available Microled product in Q1 2019.
Also the foldable displays they are working on are the ones they bought from Samsung most likely.

One random article doesn’t prove a point. Apparently Samsung couldn’t pinpoint the issue, but it was a combination of things. Fast charging played a part. As long as they are first, I suppose you’ll be happy. I personally don’t mind Apple taking their time in all of these areas as they usually get it right. Samsung is an impressive manufacturer of components, with great scale, I do have to give them that. There’s no reason to get so upset about my opinion on the company.

Edit: I saw why you added... “When it’s ready” will be the new mantra instead of launching early and seeing which sticks and what doesn’t."

So even a Samsung is admitting to launching early and seeing what sticks, but you can’t?
 
I’m racking my brains to think of even one product that relies on a flat to 180degree fold in ANY Material!
There's probably a bending radius built into the hinge, I'm thinking. If it was a straight 180 degree fold the display would show a visible crease down the middle at all times when open and like you say, wreck pretty quickly (due to material fatigue.)

What concerns me more is how scratch-prone this thing will be, especially if foreign particles get caught inbetween the two halves of the device. (Like, grain of sand caught in your pocket would be bad news.) Since the display is just a plastic film it will be easily damaged compared to a glass screen, human nails could probably scratch it.
 
I still don't understand the people saying they can't see a use for this. Literally a 2-in-1 tablet/phone IS the use for this. Carrying something similar dimensions to a phone, then saying "hey I'd like to watch this on a bigger screen" and folding it out, sounds appealing. Though, we can argue the feasibility and quality of this experience but if it's done right and well it would be a killer device.
 
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I still don't understand the people saying they can't see a use for this. Literally a 2-in-1 tablet/phone IS the use for this. Carrying something similar dimensions to a phone, then saying "hey I'd like to watch this on a bigger screen" and folding it out, sounds appealing. Though, we can argue the feasibility and quality of this experience but if it's done right and well it would be a killer device.

I think in the future, it will make sense. It just doesn’t feel technologically feasible right now. The batteries, the materials, the hinges, the software, the thickness of the device, it all needs to be perfect to really make an impact. Right now I can’t see a device being released that’s as thin as my iPhone, reliably opening and closing to a tablet size. Maybe one day, but I’d rather wait until it is more realistic.
 
One random article doesn’t prove a point.

The article quotes Samsung's Mobile CEO man it indefinitely proves my point and shows that you are wrong.

Apparently Samsung couldn’t pinpoint the issue, but it was a combination of things
It wasn't fast charging at all, you are wrong, get over it.
Also Samsung issued a report about the causes for Note 7's defect.
https://www.businessinsider.de/samsung-issues-galaxy-note-7-battery-report-2017-1?r=US&IR=T

As long as they are first, I suppose you’ll be happy.

Me? Not I all, you are the one that tries to bash them for the simple fact that they are the first at something and you also trying to insinuate a lot of things that are not true.
I personally don’t mind Apple taking their time in all of these areas as they usually get it right.
I personally don't care.

Samsung is an impressive manufacturer of components, with great scale, I do have to give them that. There’s no reason to get so upset about my opinion on the company.

Well there is not reason for you to be upset about the fact that your opinion is wrong (based on indisputable proof I provided).
 
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There’s always a lot of enthusiasm for whatever Apple isn’t doing.
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It’s just categorically cool to slag on Apple, especially now that they are no longer the underdogs.

This (and every) entire thread is full of people doing exactly the opposite. If Apples not doing it, it’s because it’s stupid, wrong, the company doing it is dumb, the product will be crap, the other companies are inept and will just screw it up, and no other companies should try anything.
Meanwhile, Apple lacks the ability to try anything. The biggest company on earth with more money than entire nations, and their stale product line looks the same as it did a decade ago, minus a hell of a lot of features and functionality. There’s 30 good years worth of technological innovation demoed at industry shows sitting on shelves unused, and a trillion dollar computer company that should be out front making the big strides forward into new ideas, but is a bump on a log, lacking the guts to try anything unfamiliar. Tribalism and brand loyalty cheerleading is not going to cut it.
 
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The article quotes Samsung's Mobile CEO man it indefinitely proves my point and show that you are wrong.

Well there is not reason for you to be upset about the fact that your opinion is wrong (based on indisputable proof I provided).

Whenever someone ends an argument with the word „indisputable“, I know that it *is* disputable without looking at it. Relax. It‘s just tech not life. :)
 
That is simply disingenuous.
Samsung has been talking for years about flexible, foldable displays. Only recently Samsung has been talking about an actual foldable phone. And when Samsung Mobile's CEO is saying they will launch such a phone soon I see no reason to doubt or question his statements.

apple is talking about wireless charging for a year now, yet they haven't gotten a product out even though qi is 10 years old :D

crippling technology to make it proprietary so your product is the only one that can charge your smart watch is difficult i guess xD
 
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Folding a screen is not the same as folding a hinge.
I'm aware of that. My response was to the following assertion:

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Take a piece of plastic (or metal) and fold it and un-fold it repeatedly.

Count how many times before it snaps.
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The 15-year old flip phone (Samsung A-650) was a piece of mostly plastic, folded and un-folded repeatedly. It still works with no problems, has not snapped. I'm aware that 15 years later we're dealing with dual touch screens; however, a hinge - plastic or metal - doesn't necessarily "snap" easily with repeated use. I will admit that one of the few issues I have with an old 12-year old MBP is a faulty hinge. Laptop hinges are more susceptible to stress due to added mass. As to whether the hinged Samsung foldable phone will have issues with the split display electrical interface, that's another issue - separate from "snapping" mechanical failure.
 
It's great Samsung is trying to innovate. I am not going to purchase it right away because newer tech could have limited support and some initial defects. I'll let the tech mature and prices drop significantly.
 
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I think it's interesting from a "how to do it" standpoint, but I have zero interest in folding a screen.
 
The article quotes Samsung's Mobile CEO man it indefinitely proves my point and show that you are wrong.


It wasn't fast charging at all, you are wrong, get over it.
Also Samsung issued a report about the causes for Note 7's defect.
https://www.businessinsider.de/samsung-issues-galaxy-note-7-battery-report-2017-1?r=US&IR=T



Me? Not I all, you are the one that tries to bash them for the simple fact that they are the first at something and you also trying to insinuate a lot of things that are not true.

I personally don't care.



Well there is not reason for you to be upset about the fact that your opinion is wrong (based on indisputable proof I provided).

I saw the article. The Samsung rep admits to rushing features and seeing what sticks. If they are changing that mentality, then great, but this foldable phone seems to prove otherwise. They are pushing this stuff out now because they don’t have any product to compete with the iPhone right now. A prototype of a potential future product won’t help their cause. Okay, so a bad battery design and a rush to release was the cause. Makes sense. My opinion still stands, that Samsung rushes to release things first just for the sake of being first. It’s everything to their fans so I don’t blame them for doing so. We’ll see if they change their ways.
 
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I think it's interesting from a "how to do it" standpoint, but I have zero interest in folding a screen.
I have no interest in in folding a screen either, what is interesting is being able to have a bigger screen.
 
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