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Samsung Said to Follow Apple's Lead with Fingerprint Sensor, No Iris Scanner in Galaxy S5

Didn't Apple acquire some company for its fingerprint technology?

Apple then turned around and made it work easy and seamlessly.
 
AppleInTheMud said:
Apple didnt come first with this ... So Apple was the thief ?
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As someone already mentioned, this is a quote of Steve Jobs quoting Picasso. And he was applying to Apple.

When you think about it, Apple "steals" existing technology and makes it their own. Fingerprint scanning technology existed before the 5s. Apple "stole" it and came out with Touch ID. Touch ID is all Apple's, and it just happens to be the most fuctional user-level fingerprint scanner around.

So to answer your question, yes. Apple is the great artist. Samsung, in this case, is the good one.
 
kalsta said:
It's a quote of Steve Jobs quoting Pablo Picasso. And yes, Jobs was applying it to Apple.
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Steve Jobs actually understood that quote. It's a shame so many people here keep repeating it without any understanding at all of what it meant.
 
Abazigal said:
Android phones have a variety of unlock options available, like the one where you trace a pattern on the screen. Surely that would be an alternative if the fingerprint scanner fails?

That said, I am interested to see how accurate Samsung can make their scanners.
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if both iOS and Android have alternative unlock options then there is no more security on the phones then not having a scanner which makes scanners a gimmick.
 
richman555 said:
Didn't Apple acquire some company for its fingerprint technology?

Apple then turned around and made it work easy and seamlessly.
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cmChimera said:
As someone already mentioned, this is a quote of Steve Jobs quoting Picasso. And he was applying to Apple.

When you think about it, Apple "steals" existing technology and makes it their own. Fingerprint scanning technology existed before the 5s. Apple "stole" it and came out with Touch ID. Touch ID is all Apple's, and it just happens to be the most fuctional user-level fingerprint scanner around.

So to answer your question, yes. Apple is the great artist. Samsung, in this case, is the good one.
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Yep. It's time people start realising that innovation doesn't mean to invent something from scratch. In fact, there really is no such thing. Every invention borrows something from what came before. As I said before, this is the nature of progress.

Worth watching for anyone who is interested in this topic:
http://www.ted.com/talks/kirby_ferguson_embrace_the_remix.html
 
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What gets me is how Samsung is going to be able to almost perfectly duplicate Apple's Touch ID sensor and still manage to sell it for half the price. Samsung will probably manage to put the technology in every low-cost device it makes as standard issue in a short time while Apple takes years to roll Touch ID out to notebooks and desktops. Samsung is bound to find a way to reverse-engineer whatever Apple does and do it a lot cheaper and that always makes the computer industry a lot happier when Apple gets beaten.

Apple needs to heavily patent everything they do or else whatever they do will just get blatantly copied and undercut in price. I sure hope that sapphire creation plant of Apple's pays off for Apple by cornering the sapphire supply market. Other than that it's almost impossible to beat a company that simply reverse-engineers other company's products since it greatly cuts down on R&D cost and time and Samsung is a master at that.
 
I wonder what all the Fandroids are going to say when the S5 comes out that were calling the TouchID worthless and a gimmick. They said it wouldn't catch on, and now their flagship android phone is hopping on the bandwagon. I love it.
 
AndyUnderscoreR said:
Am I the only one who would rather not have to gouge out an eyeball out or chop a finger off if my phone turns out to have a security flaw?

Given a choice, I would much prefer a device with no biometric systems in it at all.
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Oh come on. Each iPhone 5s can still be used with a passcode.

Some people just drink bile and urinate acetic acid don't they? 🙄
 
mrxak said:
Steve Jobs actually understood that quote. It's a shame so many people here keep repeating it without any understanding at all of what it meant.
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I don't think Steve was at Apple when he said it. I have a feeling it was after his exit from Apple, so keep in mind, he didn't have to be politically correct when he said it (not that this was his style anyway).

I have no doubt he understood it very well (he was an incredibly intelligent man), but he could also be incredibly one-sided in its application. Consider his famous statement many years later:

"I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this."​

I have no doubt Jobs cared so much about Apple's product design, carefully crafting every little detail of the user experience and not settling for 'good enough'. So I can understand his frustration when those little details start getting copied by the competition—I really can! But at times I think he lost some perspective by being so emotionally involved with the design process, and forgetting about all the great ideas Apple borrowed from others over the years.
 
Avalontor said:
if both iOS and Android have alternative unlock options then there is no more security on the phones then not having a scanner which makes scanners a gimmick.
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I know what you're saying, but I don't think it's exactly true. Before TouchID I just had a 4 digit passcode and had an extended time before my phone would automatically lock in order to not have to spend a lot of time unlocking it. Now with TouchID, I've finally implemented a complex passcode (since the only time I really have to type it is when I reboot my phone) and I allow my phone to lock itself more quickly. So I think my phone is more secure than it was before.

I suppose most users haven't increased the security of their alternative unlock method, so they may still be vulnerable, but at least in my case, I'd say my phone is more secure now than before TouchID.
 
AndyUnderscoreR said:
Am I the only one who would rather not have to gouge out an eyeball out or chop a finger off if my phone turns out to have a security flaw?

Given a choice, I would much prefer a device with no biometric systems in it at all.
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You do realize you can turn off fingerprint scanning in preferences right? Every time I see a luddite type comment, made using a computing device, I cringe.

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iMerik said:
That is what I am wondering. If Apple is a good or great artist, does that means they copy or steal well? Honest question... not looking for an online fight.
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Apple steals and is the great artist. Samsung copies and is the good one.

The great artist stealing means they take it and make it their own - i.e. change it, improve it in such a way that there can be no mistaking that the thing they "stole" now belongs to them

Samsung, on the other hand, copies. They produce a very close to the original copy that in no way radically transforms the original, the way it is transformed when "stollen".

Get it now?
 
No surprise here. Samsung is a copying company. Even before Apple their strategy was to copy the market leader in a given industry and make similar products at a cheaper price. It works for them. I don't buy any of their products though. It's mostly of lower quality and I've had a few bad experiences with them.
 
This is why I don't like Samsung. They innovate ways to steal stuff faster... annnd that's about it.
 
iMerik said:
That is what I am wondering. If Apple is a good or great artist, does that means they copy or steal well? Honest question... not looking for an online fight.
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That's what I've been discussing in previous comments. In that same interview, Jobs said, 'We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas.' Apple's strength (this was largely inspired by Jobs, but also thanks to the teams of people working for him) has always been this: taking great technology, and reinterpreting it, improving it, making it better and easier to use. They never just adopt a technology to say, 'Look, there, see… we have that too.' It's not part of their culture. What they'd rather point out is how much people enjoy doing stuff on Apple products, because they took the time and care to make the technology accessible to everyday folk.

Here's the relevant part of the interview itself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vippzJheyE

And here again is another talk I recommend listening to on this topic:
http://www.ted.com/talks/kirby_ferguson_embrace_the_remix.html
 
Samsung is working on a phone with a fingerprint scanner & brighter OS.

Here’s a photo of their prototype:
 

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robjulo said:
You think Apple invented fingerprint scan security?
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Not siding with either Apple or Samsung here. But knowing how much stuff academics cranks out every year, most of these companies doesn't really do much invention anyways.

Really what they do best is they have the money to throw at a process to make it cheap and make it mass produce. So at the end of the day is about who can take something (even if it's the same) to make it more friendly to use so that everybody would want to use it.
 
S5 will have a 64bit processor and a fingerprint scanner. They never copy Apple, they must have thought of these things on their own. Unreal. 😡
 
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