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800,000 in two months? Well that's far better than Microsoft could manage with their Surface RTs. They only managed to sell 400,000 of those in the first six months.
 
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Every single post in this thread is stupid.

1) The Galaxy Gear is not made for people with a standard phone. It is made for people who have a phablet like the note 3.

People can have all the benefits of a large screen for apps and games and emails, but also the convenience of being able to tell the time, or check a txt message or make a phone call without pulling a small tablet out of their pocket/bag.

For all those people that complain that the note 3 looks stupid when being used as a phone, the Galaxy Gear is Samsung's answer to that - they've just done a crap job at selling the devices together. They should be bundled rather than sold separately.

2) This is a 1.0 release. Just like with every 1.0 release of a new Apple product, it has it's problems in functionality, battery life and software.

(Everyone bitching should look up: Newton, Pippin, G4 Cube, Apple Lisa, Mac Portable, Powerbook duo, hockey puck mouse, eWorld, 1st gen iPod, 1st Gen iPhone, 1st gen Apple TV, OSX 10.0, FCP X... Every single one of those products was a complete and utter turd. Massively overpriced, poorly designed and/or full of technical problems.)

3) I don't really care who does what first. I'm a consumer and I don't need to pick sides. I can pick and choose devices and technology that suit my needs at the time and I can change as my needs change. If Samsung, Apple and Sony are all competing for my money then great, technology will advance faster as they try to build the best products. This is never, ever a bad thing.
 
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Every single post in this thread is stupid.

1) The Galaxy Gear is not made for people with a standard phone. It is made for people who have a phablet like the note 3.

People can have all the benefits of a large screen for apps and games and emails, but also the convenience of being able to tell the time, or check a txt message or make a phone call without pulling a small tablet out of their pocket/bag.

For all those people that complain that the note 3 looks stupid when being used as a phone, the Galaxy Gear is Samsung's answer to that - they've just done a crap job at selling the devices together. They should be bundled rather than sold separately.

2) This is a 1.0 release. Just like with every 1.0 release of a new Apple product, it has it's problems in functionality, battery life and software.

(Everyone bitching should look up: Newton, Pippin, G4 Cube, Apple Lisa, Mac Portable, Powerbook duo, hockey puck mouse, eWorld, 1st gen iPod, 1st Gen iPhone, 1st gen Apple TV, OSX 10.0, FCP X... Every single one of those products was a complete and utter turd. Massively overpriced, poorly designed and/or full of technical problems.)

3) I don't really care who does what first. I'm a consumer and I don't need to pick sides. I can pick and choose devices and technology that suit my needs at the time and I can change as my needs change. If Samsung, Apple and Sony are all competing for my money then great, technology will advance faster as they try to build the best products. This is never, ever a bad thing.

tl;dr

Thanks for adding another.
 
(Everyone bitching should look up: Newton, Pippin, G4 Cube, Apple Lisa, Mac Portable, Powerbook duo, hockey puck mouse, eWorld, 1st gen iPod, 1st Gen iPhone, 1st gen Apple TV, OSX 10.0, FCP X... Every single one of those products was a complete and utter turd. Massively overpriced, poorly designed and/or full of technical problems.)


Apple sold more than 50k any of those...
 
What's the hurry, Samsung? Wait for Apple to launch first, then copy it!
So difficult to make a original product, isn't it? It was necessary to find it out the hard way.
 
In 1983 Casio had touch screen watches with multiple functions and big screen - almost as big as the watch.

Again - that was in 1983 !

And in 1991 they had another touch screen watch with a pixels based screen.

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Samsung themselves have now come out and clarified that they shipped 800,000 to retailers and sold 50,000 to consumers. So yes it is a massive flop as of right now.

As already noted, the 50K was just in South Korea. The 800K is how many have been sold worldwide to retailers.

(Samsung counts a sale when an item arrives at the retailer. Apple counts a sale when the item ships to the retailer. )

Supposedly 1/3 of these have been returned.

At least, at Best Buy stores in the USA. (We don't know about any other source yet.)

According to the original article, Samsung wanted to know why Best Buy has an unusually high return rate.

E.g. Are the Samsung salespeople at Best Buy selling them to people without a Note 3? Are they pushing them on people who didn't want one? Is it because the salespeople overclaimed its abilities? Or is it simply because the watch doesn't do what BB customers need/want?
 
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I'm not a fan of this thing either but to those saying that it has to be charged daily: there are people that wind their watches up every day. So charging watch A overnight vs. winding watch B before bed boils down to the same thing...

inb4 "niche market" "people r stoopid y0" etc., etc...

My job takes me out of town frequently and I can assure you that I'd rather wind my watch than plug it in.

Once you start plugging your watch in you run into problems like....

Having to pack multiple chargers or cables....

Limited plug ins at the hotel (I usually have to unplug an arm clock to charge my phone bedside)...

And for me sometimes I'm not at the away from home terminal long enough to warrant going to a hotel room so I don't get tine to charge.

Also and this is an IMPORTANT argument!!! I can't comment on wind up wrist watches (I like the old pocket watches) but you can get two days (barely) out of a wind and some you can get 60 hours out of! And those were made in the 30's!!
 
My job takes me out of town frequently and I can assure you that I'd rather wind my watch than plug it in.

Once you start plugging your watch in you run into problems like....

Having to pack multiple chargers or cables....

Limited plug ins at the hotel (I usually have to unplug an arm clock to charge my phone bedside)...

And for me sometimes I'm not at the away from home terminal long enough to warrant going to a hotel room so I don't get tine to charge.

Also and this is an IMPORTANT argument!!! I can't comment on wind up wrist watches (I like the old pocket watches) but you can get two days (barely) out of a wind and some you can get 60 hours out of! And those were made in the 30's!!

Don't forget the 10 day or 8/7 day watches like some Pateks, jlc iwc and even panerai
 
now now.. this isn't the time for facts, logic.. or reason. it's time for hate!

*popcorn*

As already noted, the 50K was just in South Korea. The 800K is how many have been sold worldwide to retailers.

(Samsung counts a sale when an item arrives at the retailer. Apple counts a sale when the item ships to the retailer. )



At least, at Best Buy stores in the USA. (We don't know about any other source yet.)

According to the original article, Samsung wanted to know why Best Buy has an unusually high return rate.

E.g. Are the Samsung salespeople at Best Buy selling them to people without a Note 3? Are they pushing them on people who didn't want one? Is it because the salespeople overclaimed its abilities? Or is it simply because the watch doesn't do what BB customers need/want?
 
A tablet in 2001 was deemed even less useful than a watch. I don't understand your point.

Not true. Even then, back in the built-like-a-brick-poophouse days, I could imagine a thousand and one uses for a tablet. The iPad built upon that potential and brought into a much more user friendly reality.

A smartwatch? Eh...no matter who makes it, Apple, Samsung, Sony, Pebble, I can only see them as being nothing more than wearable extensions for smartphones, only useful for delivering a very select set of information to its user.

They'd be great for vitals statistics for people exercising, or for mapping, surveying, and small GPS guides. A bunch of nifty, useful little things, though nothing nearly as exciting as what the smartphone revolution brought to us.

I'm always prepared to eat my words, but with current technology, I can't imagine them being anything too mindblowing. Not if people want them to be comfortable and fashionable.
 
its funny, there is this rumor about an iwatch from apple, samsung and the whole world dont know jack about it but still try to be first.
they release this unripe fruit and it fails.

i think there are two options now:

1. the iwhatever(iwatch) will go into a complete different direction and everybody will be aaaaah and it will be huge success.

2. apple will have a look at samsungs "success" and will end the iwatch project.

(3.) the iwatch was a rumor from the beginning and never existed

maybe its not stupid by apple to spread rumors about new products, as they know samsung will have an eagle eye on it and tries to be the first and then look how they do, if there is a market or not
 
A tablet in 2001 was deemed even less useful than a watch. I don't understand your point.
useless? the first tablets were FAR from useless. They were as usefull as any other PC or notebook at that time. The only problem was that they were too expensive and clumsy. This was the whole reason why they didnt work at that time.

Watch is only usefull for looking at the time. Anything more like that "magical" ability to display phone notifications (oh dear lord thats revolutionairy!) is a total waste of money. It just doesnt bring anything new to the table.
 
Watch is only usefull for looking at the time. Anything more like that "magical" ability to display phone notifications (oh dear lord thats revolutionairy!) is a total waste of money. It just doesnt bring anything new to the table.

As a pebble owner, i have found the notifications not necessarily revolutionary but certainly useful. I work in an office and not allowed phones on the office floor however i can see if i get an important text / phone call and excuse myself to go answer my phone.

I also love the fact i can leave my phone in lets say my inside pocket of a jacket, change song with my watch and then someone calls answer it through hands free :) it just frees my hands up a lot more. I will be looking to get an iwatch when and if released.
 
But...why?

Apple sold more than 50k any of those...

Because Apple has a large Fanbois base that will buy a moldy piece of bread if they saw an Apple logo on it.

For over 2 decades I have been less than impressed with most 1.0 releases of Apple.

I'm a 2.0 kinda guy. I'll let the Fanbois do Apple's beta testing.
 
My job takes me out of town frequently and I can assure you that I'd rather wind my watch than plug it in.

Once you start plugging your watch in you run into problems like....

Having to pack multiple chargers or cables....

Limited plug ins at the hotel (I usually have to unplug an arm clock to charge my phone bedside)...

And for me sometimes I'm not at the away from home terminal long enough to warrant going to a hotel room so I don't get tine to charge.

Also and this is an IMPORTANT argument!!! I can't comment on wind up wrist watches (I like the old pocket watches) but you can get two days (barely) out of a wind and some you can get 60 hours out of! And those were made in the 30's!!

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you totally. I DO wear watches that wind up and if I don't wear them, they last me about 38 - 60 hours (depending on watch). And yes the cables are a pain.
All I mean is it's 1 action you do before bed. End. That's it.. :D Perhaps I'm being too simplistic in my approach.. but just an example.
 
Tim Cook on Stage:

"Next up, iWatch"

"We had an amazing launch weekend. We sold over 1 million iWatches in just the first week alone. This is incredible. People love iWatch. We made a video to show how people love our products."

"You know, here at Apple we make the best products. Our competition tried to sell a smart watch, but they only sold 50,000 models in the first months. We sold 20 times that in one week alone. This is amazing."

..........

I read that in Tim Cook's voice... =/ I can completely see him saying all this on stage.
 
Tim Cook on Stage:

"Next up, iWatch"

"We had an amazing launch weekend. We sold over 1 million iWatches in just the first week alone. This is incredible. People love iWatch. We made a video to show how people love our products."

"You know, here at Apple we make the best products. Our competition tried to sell a smart watch, but they only sold 50,000 models in the first months. We sold 20 times that in one week alone. This is amazing."

..........

Wait, what? Has somebody completely forgotten about Sony here? I'm pretty sure they qualify as a "major electronics company", and the original LiveView smartwatch--which was an Android sidecar, not unlike this one--was previewed back at the end of 2010, three years ago. Even the LiveView2 shipped before the Samsung.

In fact, given that Samsung originally built their consumer electronics business around copying Sony TVs and such before they got into copying Apple products, you could claim that the Gear is a copy of the Sony watch if you wanted to be mean.

Didn't MS release a Live Watch or something 5 years back? Smart watches today are like the the smart phones/PDAs of yesterdays. Its a niche, no one really cares, and its far from mainstream.

I dont know whether or not Apple can [or cannot], but if Samsung wants to pull what Apple did with ipod and iphones, they need to release something with a marketing plan with features that make everyday consumers care about it.

Their smartwatch is more of a companion for the Galaxy note, and outside of it, its redudant and doesn't do anything better than the other gadgets we already own.

When Apple was releasing the iPhone, they didn't just release something redundant, but they proved and convince they could do the things that other possible devices you already have much better and convince you that it will make your life more convenient. They went as far as to secure deals with a carrier (like approaching Verizon first, then AT&T) in order to make that vision of a true mobile internet phone come true.

The other smartphones around that time, made you settle for what carriers imposed on you. Apple convince AT&T on an unlimited plan, provided a near full browser experience, throw in a decent camera, and a few 'apps' that convenient help customer consolidate their ipods into their phones helping them carry less things and have an affordable data-plan...

Data-plans BEFORE iphone would have costed you an arm and leg!

I would not be surprised if Apple was thinking about working with carriers to secure similar deals for their smartwatch where customers would be able to afford to have a connected smartwatch to the internet. WE already pay for our tablets and phones, why would be want to pay for data on a watch? Maybe Apple can convince them to offer a $2/month plan for smartwatches... or something like that to make it really usable.
 
Wearable smart watches will always be a niche market. Most people don't need one, while most people need a phone. Even if Apple comes out with one, it won't be mass accepted.

No, most people dont need a phone, especially a smart phone. We survived without it prior to Apple's iphone, and we can.

However, Apple's smartphone does create an extra level of convenience that we have grown to be used to. Smartphones used to be a niche too, until it was made mainstream by Apple.

Until someone figures out how to release a smartphone that is going to solve everyday problems and not add more responsibilities (really another thing to charge every day?) it could remain a niche for a long time.
 
Samsung doesn't care if it sells 50k units or just one. The purpose of this product is to ensure that they won't be sued anymore if Apple will release an iWatch later, since the court won't likely distinguish between "lame smartwatch" and "great new modern smartwatch like Apple's (or others')". Of course if consumers like it then it's an added bonus. Anyway the poor sales won't hurt them much.

I dont think that is the purpose; it could also hurt their case:

If Samsung (and others) release a smartwatch prior to Apple. And let's pretent apple release something 2014 that is completely different that other smartwatches and somehow makes it relevant to the mainstream as some magical wearable device+watch, etc and sell millions. Then a few months later Samsung changed their smartphone design to match apple's wearable. It's something Apple can use to say, look Samsung before, and Samsung after if the after and before are different yet very similar to Apple's.
 
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