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Oh dear. More unripeness: Samsung pulls Android 4.3 for UK Galaxy S3, S4 update withdrawn stateside

Samsung has temporarily withdrawn the Android 4.3 Jelly Bean update for its Galaxy S3 handset in the UK following complaints, as Samsung contends with update problems on both sides of the pond...

...Seemingly, the respective Galaxy S3 and Galaxy S4 updates were brought forward so Samsung could offer more devices to support the struggling Galaxy Gear smartwatch...

Less haste, more speed.
 
Big difference between shipping 800,000 units and and actually selling them. I reckon the "Watch" accessories won't actually take off in sales until Apple comes out with their own version and people go "oh, that's the way it should be" then the others will scramble to copy them. Samsung of course will cry "we were there first, see? See!!!!??" and then redesign theirs to mimic Apple.

Of course, this is conjecture that Apple will indeed come out with such a thing. Hell, people have been talking about Apple getting into the TV business since 2006 and it hasn't happened yet. I'm bored of those rumours.
 
Despite Samsung's marketing efforts, this dog is going to die a quick death. Much like their remarkable and "innovative" TV on an easel type stand. (How ridiculous was that?)

I'm not convinced that many people actually want a smart watch, certainly not anything like this turd.

I'm in the camp that is hoping that Apple's iWatch (if there even is such a thing) is nothing more than a smokescreen to keep their competitors busy and looking silly, while they make some sort of we able tech that actually makes sense.

I'm an Apple guy, but I have zero interest is a smart watch that even slightly resembles the Galaxy Gear. I "might" be interested in something more along the Nike Fuel Band with added functionality. Either way, Apple is going to need to win me over in this space.
 
I hope they aren't surprised. There is a limited audience that this thing even will work for.

What would Apple do without you?

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Do people really think that companies develop a whole new type of product just because in some forums there a rumors?

So you think there are rumors in forums because a company is developing a whole new type of product?
 
It costs as much as a phone should cost, doesn't do anything your phone can't already do and requires the phone to do most of the lauded functions...

This is a product we don't need.
 
The answer is simple. Anyone (Like me) that would want a watch is just waiting to see what Apple creates. Same as all the other products that Samsung comes out with. Apple just makes a better product in my opinion, so yes, I am waiting. This Galaxy Gear kinda sucks in general tho. Battery definitely does!!
 
While I am not surprised that this has not sold well as it is an ugly pointless device. I am surprised that they have sold 50,000 though I would have thought it would be well below that figure.
 
The answer is simple. Anyone (Like me) that would want a watch is just waiting to see what Apple creates. Same as all the other products that Samsung comes out with. Apple just makes a better product in my opinion, so yes, I am waiting. This Galaxy Gear kinda sucks in general tho. Battery definitely does!!

Im not interested in an Apple iWatch either. I think its a very niche product and im surprised Samsung has possibly sold 800K.
 
Excepted, given that it is just a $300 accessory.

Most watches cost more then this and they just tell the time. For an accessory that does more then the average watch it is not a bad price point. Not saying I like it but just saying.

Then again a Movado looks a ton better as well..
 
To clear things up:

  • 800,000 is the total number sold worldwide so far.
  • 50,000 was the subtotal sold in just South Korea.

Note: "shipped" and "sold" mean the same thing for both Samsung and Apple. It indicates they've been either sold and shipped to a retailer, or sold direct to a user in a company store.

Both companies account for returns separately.

Retailers try very hard not to overstock a device that isn't selling, thus the best sales indicator usually comes a quarter later when retailers adjust their inventory buying up or down.
 
As for Samsung's current watch, it was obviously rushed out. It disappointingly has none of the tech that one would expect from a company that makes bendable displays, and it's not very good looking.

Now, apparently an update has just come out that makes it slightly more useful. (The text of notifications now show up on the watch, not just a simple indicator to go check your phone.)

Yet it's still nowhere near what it could be. I like buying bleeding edge devices, but this watch isn't in that category.

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I personally think that all smartwatch sales of any kind so far, do indicate a hunger for a simple device that can be carried without pockets, and is easy to glance at.

Since Google bought WIMM Labs, I look forward to what they're doing. (Many people expect a Google Glass type of UI on their smartwatch.)
 
To clear things up:

  • 800,000 is the total number sold worldwide so far.
  • 50,000 was the subtotal sold in just South Korea.

Note: "shipped" and "sold" mean the same thing for both Samsung and Apple. It indicates they've been either sold and shipped to a retailer, or sold direct to a user in a company store.

Both companies account for returns separately.

Retailers try very hard not to overstock a device that isn't selling, thus the best sales indicator usually comes a quarter later when retailers adjust their inventory buying up or down.

Note: "shipped" and "sold" mean the same thing for both Samsung and Apple. It indicates they've been either sold and shipped to a retailer, or sold direct to a user in a company store."

That is the first time that I've heard that. I seem to recall that Apple themselves stated that when they say "sold" it is to the end user. I'm not accusing you of being wrong, but that is not in line with what I've read in the past. (I'm going to look to see if I can find a link, although even if I do, not everything you read on the internet is true, so you may in fact be correct)

If anything Apple cannot make some of their devices fast enough (which is another problem all unto itself).

This seems to support your comment...

http://gigaom.com/2013/05/09/what-apple-really-means-when-it-says-it-has-sold-a-product/

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That is the first time that I've heard that. I seem to recall that Apple themselves stated that when they say "sold" it is to the end user.
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This seems to be answered. The 50,000 are all genuinely sold. There is another 750,000 channel fill.

Remember that the Galaxy Note 3 was the only device that could use the watch at release. It only recently became compatible with other Samsung phones last month. So I also highly doubt the 800,000 number is actual sales to consumers.

Regardless, that watch has some of the worst reviews and isn't something people will be using 6 months from now, so the actual sales are really a mute point.
 
But how many were returned or aren't being used, that is the question...

Moot point. Many people bought and returned Apple products e.g. iPhones, iPods, MBPs, MacPros, 27" iMacs when I worked there. That doesn't mean that each individual product was flawed.

More importantly, it's not a measure of product success.

if it was cheaper i would pick one up.

Same here, but even at $100 I'd be hard pressed to see the value in a device to go along with another device. I picked up a dumb big Android phone so I could leave the iPod, iPhone, iPad, and in some cases the Macbook behind.

It would make pulling my phone out of my pocket less frequent, but then I'd still need it to do a tad bit more, and look a whole lot better.


That link is dead on accurate.

Remember that the Galaxy Note 3 was the only device that could use the watch at release. It only recently became compatible with other Samsung phones last month. So I also highly doubt the 800,000 number is actual sales to consumers.

Regardless, that watch has some of the worst reviews and isn't something people will be using 6 months from now, so the actual sales are really a mute point.

Well, given that the Note 3 sold over 5 million in the first month, one could easily say that less than a fifth of those customers wanted the watch that was the companion for it.

Also, some vendors were giving steep discounts for buying both. Yeah, worldwide it could easily be close to a million, especially after the GS4, GS3, and Note II joined the bandwagon.

The part about whose using it 6 months from now is moot, as it's always been. Samsung, like Apple, doesn't give two spits about whether or not you use their product after you buy it.
 
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Considering the small number of compatible devices, this has to be considered an unqualified success. I don't get the appeal, but I get the Pebble watch either, and people seem to love them...
 
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