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Rumours and speculation are different to actually seeing the product on display so
Apple doesn’t have a foldable
Apple doesn’t have an s-pen either and yet…
and even if they did it’s because Samsung has forced them to make one just like bigger screen phones and oled panels on phones
When Samsung “forced them” to make the iPhone 6 it was a runaway best seller. Extrapolating that to the rumors of the iPhone foldable….
it looks like since 2011 apple have been playing catch up with Samsung in regards to mobile and the trifold
And eating Samsungs lunch while they are catching up.
Solidify their position by making Apple improve their devices
And eat Samsungs lunch while they are doing it. It’s interesting how two people have different views of the same companies. ;)
 
Apple messed up AI because they are investor focused meaning they have to crunch the numbers before they make investments that’s why other companies are ahead of them because these other companies can take chances that Apple can’t under Tim Cook
It’s true. Apple waits until they have the technology they think their customers want. They usually don’t release half baked products, but perfect is only an aspiration here on earth. And then they zoom ahead of the competition.
Hence Samsung are now on a trifold & this allegedly innovative company can’t even release a foldable device
Is it will or skill that’s the problem?
Only a talking point for the critics. Samsung can’t even release a decent competitor to Face ID for an alleged innovative company….
This is incorrect as Apple Intelligence was tacked onto iOS 18 at the last minute because they were getting torn apart from all angles
It wasn’t tacked on. It was scaled down. And didn’t seem to hurt sales of the iPhone 17….
That’s why it was on 18.1 beta & not 18.0 beta and it shows because it’s garbage and that is why Liquid Glass has been done to take individuals attention away from AI.
That’s some conspiracy theory.
If the majority of apple’s customers don’t care about AI as you claim because sales say otherwise then that goes to show that as a company Samsung are more innovative because they need to try harder to get customers like produce a device like the flip and fold
Samsung throws it against the wall to see what sticks. That’s not innovation. Sounds more like desperation.
 
It’s true. Apple waits until they have the technology they think their customers want. They usually don’t release half baked products, but perfect is only an aspiration here on earth. And then they zoom ahead of the competition.

Only a talking point for the critics. Samsung can’t even release a decent competitor to Face ID for an alleged innovative company….

It wasn’t tacked on. It was scaled down. And didn’t seem to hurt sales of the iPhone 17….

That’s some conspiracy theory.

Samsung throws it against the wall to see what sticks. That’s not innovation. Sounds more like desperation.
If all you can cling to is Face ID then that says it all apple has been playing catch up since 2011 when Samsung released the original note 👍🏻
The Apple Pencil is a stylus as the does the same thing

Forced meaning this if it wasn’t for Samsung
Tim Cook would still be selling the iPhone on a tiny 4inch screen and a 720p panel and saying this is the best technology available and it’s the exact same with foldable’s if it wasn’t for Samsung then this company wouldn’t be potentially on the verge of selling a foldable phone 👍🏻
The reason that Apple Intelligence was tacked onto iOS 18 at the last minute is this apple start working on the new iOS version around about November time so that is the reason you can tell it was tacked on because it wasn’t even ready for apparently the devices they were made for that’s why.

Again I’ve already answered this question on sales regarding the 17 models and this proves that Apple isn’t as innovative as Samsung
 
Again that’s not the point regarding selling more because they currently only sell two models the flip & fold as of right now
So when the trifold gets released that will the be the dearest foldable that they sell & as a consequence of that Samsung will sell more of the mid tier fold because it will seem cheaper compared with the trifold
Plus as I’ve mentioned the reason why more individuals are purchasing the fold 7 is because of word of mouth from individuals who have purchased previous versions and that’s why it’s growing
word of mouth didn't work for previous generations so not like that has anything to do with sales. As mentioned the improvements fold 7 had was down to the form factor and nothing else. their cameras didn't improve nor did the battery size or charging. so why did people praise it and buy it? form factor. it got alot thinner and was finally a device you could put in your pocket with no issues. Thats why more people bought the device.
 
Apple messed up AI because they are investor focused meaning they have to crunch the numbers before they make investments that’s why other companies are ahead of them because these other companies can take chances that Apple can’t under Tim Cook
Hence Samsung are now on a trifold & this allegedly innovative company can’t even release a foldable device
Is it will or skill that’s the problem?

This is incorrect as Apple Intelligence was tacked onto iOS 18 at the last minute because they were getting torn apart from all angles
That’s why it was on 18.1 beta & not 18.0 beta and it shows because it’s garbage and that is why Liquid Glass has been done to take individuals attention away from AI.

If the majority of apple’s customers don’t care about AI as you claim because sales say otherwise then that goes to show that as a company Samsung are more innovative because they need to try harder to get customers like produce a device like the flip and fold
i have already gone over why we don't have a foldable yet and why apple waited until 2026. supply is a massive issue and so is the display quailty. i certainly don't see apple releasing a foldable with a visable crease which is why the display in 2026 is said to remove this. granted fold 8 will use this same display
 
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If all you can cling to is Face ID then that says it all apple has been playing catch up since 2011 when Samsung released the original note 👍🏻
The Apple Pencil is a stylus as the does the same thing
Face ID is a disruptive technology as it fundementally change they way we use our phones. It sends foldables back home.
Forced meaning this if it wasn’t for Samsung
Tim Cook would still be selling the iPhone on a tiny 4inch screen and a 720p panel
If it weren’t for apple and the iPhone, which google copied in 2008 android would probably be far worse off.
and saying this is the best technology available and it’s the exact same with foldable’s if it wasn’t for Samsung then this company wouldn’t be potentially on the verge of selling a foldable phone 👍🏻
Don’t understand the point here. Foldable are a form factor change.
The reason that Apple Intelligence was tacked onto iOS 18 at the last minute is this apple start working on the new iOS version around about November time so that is the reason you can tell it was tacked on because it wasn’t even ready for apparently the devices they were made for that’s why.
Yes, Apple realigned their implementation of AI with new dates.
Again I’ve already answered this question on sales regarding the 17 models and this proves that Apple isn’t as innovative as Samsung […]
Apple is innovative and thoughtful in it’s implementation of tech, while Samsung throws it against the wall and sees what sticks.
 
word of mouth didn't work for previous generations so not like that has anything to do with sales. As mentioned the improvements fold 7 had was down to the form factor and nothing else. their cameras didn't improve nor did the battery size or charging. so why did people praise it and buy it? form factor. it got alot thinner and was finally a device you could put in your pocket with no issues. Thats why more people bought the device.
In correct as it was myself who told my mum to get rid of that old banger of an iPhone 15 because it was missing parts of iOS after 1 year of being released
When her contact finished because of word of mouth from individuals who had the previous versions of the fold
 
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Face ID is a disruptive technology as it fundementally change they way we use our phones. It sends foldables back home.

If it weren’t for apple and the iPhone, which google copied in 2008 android would probably be far worse off.

Don’t understand the point here. Foldable are a form factor change.

Yes, Apple realigned their implementation of AI with new dates.

Apple is innovative and thoughtful in it’s implementation of tech, while Samsung throws it against the wall and sees what sticks.
Ah back to that old chestnut of 2007 again
Newsflash it’s now 2025 we no longer live in the era of 3.5 inch display’s thanks to Samsung and now foldable’s and trifold’s because Samsung are pushing the envelope with innovation.

If Face ID is that disruptive of how we use our smartphones then why do we have to enter our pin number into it?

If foldable’s aren’t that important as you claim then why is apple reportedly going to release one next year then buddy🤔

If Samsung just throws things at the wall to see if it sticks then why do apple end up implementing most of the things from Samsung since 2011 And foldable’s are the next in line
 
Ah back to that old chestnut of 2007 again
Newsflash it’s now 2025 we no longer live in the era of 3.5 inch display’s thanks to Samsung and now foldable’s and trifold’s because Samsung are pushing the envelope with innovation.

If Face ID is that disruptive of how we use our smartphones then why do we have to enter our pin number into it?

If foldable’s aren’t that important as you claim then why is apple reportedly going to release one next year then buddy🤔

If Samsung just throws things at the wall to see if it sticks then why do apple end up implementing most of the things from Samsung since 2011 And foldable’s are the next in line
How many times did Samsung copy Apple in the recent years or follow trends set by Apple? Creating custom mobile chipsets, AirPods, watch ultra, Samsung XR etc.
Why are you only focusing on one category of phones?
In the end only one thing is important and that is revenue! And we all know who the winner is.
 
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How many times did Samsung copy Apple in the recent years or follow trends set by Apple? Creating custom mobile chipsets, AirPods, watch ultra, Samsung XR etc.
Why are you only focusing on one category of phones?
In the end only one thing is important and that is revenue! And we all know who the winner is.
Because this is about Samsung about release a trifold and that’s a mobile and apple as a company are behind Samsung in terms of innovation since 2011 and this trifold is a perfect example of this as under Tim Cook it’s investor focused then innovation hence why
Revenue has increased because as a company they play it safe and a perfect example of this is foldable’s and AI
And that is why Samsung as a company are ahead of apple since 2011 from the first note device to foldable’s because as a company they can take chances on things and not rely on investors and the iPhone mini is an example canned because it never made enough money where as if you take a foldable’s for example under Tim Cook apple would potentially not be releasing that if it wasn’t for Samsung

 
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Because this is about Samsung about release a trifold and that’s a mobile and apple as a company are behind Samsung in terms of innovation since 2011 and this trifold is a perfect example of this as under Tim Cook it’s investor focused then innovation hence why
Revenue has increased because as a company they play it safe and a perfect example of this is foldable’s and AI
And that is why Samsung as a company are ahead of apple since 2011 from the first note device to foldable’s because as a company they can take chances on things and not rely on investors and the iPhone mini is an example canned because it never made enough money where as if you take a foldable’s for example under Tim Cook apple would potentially not be releasing that if it wasn’t for Samsung

Vision Pro is much harder and costlier to develop and produce, hence higher risk. And just because a company is not releasing something does not mean they don’t develop products in the background which in the end sometimes never get released.
To say apple is not innovating just because they don’t have a foldable phone yet is just wrong. And using another company’s AI is not innovative. Here I expected more from Samsung and Apple!
Samsung is most likely selling foldables, because apple is paying them do develop and produce the displays in the first place ;)

Btw the switch to arm and their own chips for laptops and desktop computers was real innovation. This was 2020…
 
Vision Pro is much harder and costlier to develop and produce, hence higher risk. And just because a company is not releasing something does not mean they don’t develop products in the background which in the end sometimes never get released.
To say apple is not innovating just because they don’t have a foldable phone yet is just wrong. And using another company’s AI is not innovative. Here I expected more from Samsung and Apple!
Samsung is most likely selling foldables, because apple is paying them do develop and produce the displays in the first place ;)

Btw the switch to arm and their own chips for laptops and desktop computers was real innovation. This was 2020…
Again the Vision Pro was only released because another company has sold a bucket load of them hence the term investor focused

Again this is incorrect regarding innovation the reason why Samsung can make bigger devices and foldable’s for example is because they don’t need to have a gazillion sales to justify their existence where as Tim Cook under apple does hence the iPhone since 2011 and that is why Samsung can do these things and not apple

The trend since Tim Cook has taken over is follow the competition on many things from
Bigger screens in 2011 to now foldable’s the pattern is there investor focused first then innovation 2nd it’s not difficult that’s why the iPhone mini was killed off and that is why Samsung as a company can consistently do things that apple can’t
Is it will or skill?
 
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Again the Vision Pro was only released because another company has sold a bucket load of them hence the term investor focused

The trend since Tim Cook has taken over is follow the competition on many things from
Bigger screens in 2011 to now foldable’s the pattern is there investor focused first then innovation 2nd it’s not difficult that’s why the iPhone mini was killed off and that is why Samsung as a company can consistently do things that apple can’t
Is it will or skill?
Samsung was not the first to sell foldable phones, so by your logic Samsung is not innovative. Same goes for the Samsung XR!

Apple started developing the Vision Pro way before this other company sold their glasses and it is also not the same product.
 
Samsung was not the first to sell foldable phones, so by your logic Samsung is not innovative. Same goes for the Samsung XR!

Apple started developing the Vision Pro way before this other company sold their glasses and it is also not the same product.
Again I’m talking about the quest headset if that hadn’t sold millions then there would be no Vision Pro because Tim cook’s investors wouldn’t let him sell it
That’s why under Tim Cook since 2011 they have been behind other companies and that’s why Samsung can do things that apple can’t like foldable’s because Tim Cook has to justify its existence to investors where as it makes no odds to Samsung because the ends justify’s the means because there is not a cat in hell’s chance that apple would not have done these changes to the iPhone if it was not for Samsung since 2011
If Tim Cook could get away with it they would still be shipping 4inch screens on a 720 panel and calling it the best ever
As a company apple has been forced to implement these changes into the iPhone lineup since 2011
And that is why Samsung can be 7 generations ahead of apple for foldable’s and now a trifold
Now is it will or skill that’s the problem?
 
Again I’m talking about the quest headset if that hadn’t sold millions then there would be no Vision Pro because Tim cook’s investors wouldn’t let him sell it
That’s why under Tim Cook since 2011 they have been behind other companies and that’s why Samsung can do things that apple can’t like foldable’s because Tim Cook has to justify its existence to investors where as it makes no odds to Samsung because the ends justify’s the means because there is not a cat in hell’s chance that apple would not have done these changes to the iPhone if it was not for Samsung since 2011
If Tim Cook could get away with it they would still be shipping 4inch screens on a 720 panel and calling it the best ever
As a company apple has been forced to implement these changes into the iPhone lineup since 2011
And that is why Samsung can be 7 generations ahead of apple for foldable’s and now a trifold
Now is it will or skill that’s the problem?
ah you mean those polls we investors receive where Tim tells us about secret products and if he should release them. 🤣
How can u tell that apple cannot do foldables? They have a better tablet os and can produce a superior thin and light phone.
This is getting ridiculous !
 
ah you mean those polls we investors receive where Tim tells us about secret products and if he should release them. 🤣
How can u tell that apple cannot do foldables? They have a better tablet os and can produce a superior thin and light phone.
This is getting ridiculous !
it’s not about secret products is simply this
Apple as a company will not take chances on releasing new products unless another company has produced it & it’s on the market
Because they need to convince investors of the financial rewards and that is why apple as a company under Tim Cook are behind Samsung since 2011 from bigger screens to foldable’s
Because as evidenced by the iPhone mini it’s been killed off after two years because of sales hence investor focused
where as the foldable’s under Samsung it makes no difference as they have consistently persisted with it instead of prioritising sales and that is why Samsung as a company can do things that apple under Tim Cook can’t

 
it’s not about secret products is simply this
Apple as a company will not take chances on releasing new products unless another company has produced it & it’s on the market
Because they need to convince investors of the financial rewards and that is why apple as a company under Tim Cook are behind Samsung since 2011 from bigger screens to foldable’s
Because as evidenced by the iPhone mini it’s been killed off after two years because of sales hence investor focused
where as the foldable’s under Samsung it makes no difference as they have consistently persisted with it instead of prioritising sales and that is why Samsung as a company can do things that apple under Tim Cook can’t

Your logic does not make any sense and repeating it over and over again will not change that! Btw it is likely that there won’t be another Samsung Edge due to low sales numbers. 😱
A company reacting to customer demands? Outrageous…Samsung is investor focused!
 
Ah back to that old chestnut of 2007 again
Newsflash it’s now 2025 we no longer live in the era of 3.5 inch display’s thanks to Samsung and now foldable’s and trifold’s because Samsung are pushing the envelope with innovation.

If Face ID is that disruptive of how we use our smartphones then why do we have to enter our pin number into it?

If foldable’s aren’t that important as you claim then why is apple reportedly going to release one next year then buddy🤔

If Samsung just throws things at the wall to see if it sticks then why do apple end up implementing most of the things from Samsung since 2011 And foldable’s are the next in line
Apple changed the wold know 2007 and still has vast influence with smartphone designs and trends. It’s been 10 years and Samsung can’t innovate proper Face ID. They didn’t invent oled and they didn’t invent “foldable phones”. They certainly were influential enough that Samsung copied the headphone jack removal.

As to why one needs to enter a pin that question was answered 10 years ago, buddy.
 
Apple changed the wold know 2007 and still has vast influence with smartphone designs and trends. It’s been 10 years and Samsung can’t innovate proper Face ID. They didn’t invent oled and they didn’t invent “foldable phones”. They certainly were influential enough that Samsung copied the headphone jack removal.

As to why one needs to enter a pin that question was answered 10 years ago, buddy.
It’s not 2007 anymore individuals use bigger
Screens than 3.5 inches and we now have foldable’s thanks to Samsung because individuals want a device that can do two things instead of two separate devices
If Face ID was important than Samsung would have implemented it into their smartphones but it’s not that big a deal when their devices are foldable 👍🏻
 
It’s not 2007 anymore individuals use bigger
Screens than 3.5 inches and we now have foldable’s thanks to Samsung because individuals want a device that can do two things instead of two separate devices
If Face ID was important than Samsung would have implemented it into their smartphones but it’s not that big a deal when their devices are foldable 👍🏻
It might as well be 2007. Nokia came out with the first foldable phone in 2008. However in 1987 Kodak was responsible for the invention of oled. In 1992 Uniax Corp was responsible for flexible oled. Samsung was late to the party with foldables and Face ID. 👍 Face ID was disruptive.
 
Your logic does not make any sense and repeating it over and over again will not change that! Btw it is likely that there won’t be another Samsung Edge due to low sales numbers. 😱
A company reacting to customer demands? Outrageous…Samsung is investor focused!

Prove me wrong since 2011 apple has played catch with Samsung
Let’s start with the note 1
Everything up trifold’s in 2025
Who needs a slim phone when you have a trifold on the horizon 👍🏻
 
Samsung actually played catch up with Apple.

Wow back to the future to 2011. Let’s start with 64 bit and Face ID.

Many people won’t want to gamble with the reliability and expense.
If all you have is a chip & Face ID then that says it all since 2011 then that says it all
Buddy in terms of mobile compared with the changes that Samsung have implemented from then to this current day 👍🏻
If Face ID was that important to Samsung then it could easily be put into their devices but their customers don’t care enough as they won’t better flagship devices like foldable’s that apple don’t offer as they are behind the times 👍🏻
Samsung doesn’t over clock their devices unlike apple so you will have more durability out of an s25 ultra compared with an iPhone 17 pro max
 
If all you have is a chip & Face ID then that says it all since 2011 then that says it all
To be clear 2011 was when Steve passed away. 2013 was 64 bit and it forever, like face if changed the landscape of smartphones. Foldable won’t move the needle imo.
Buddy in terms of mobile compared with the changes that Samsung have implemented from then to this current day 👍🏻
iPhone has had a bigger influence than Samsung.
If Face ID was that important to Samsung then it could easily be put into their devices but their customers don’t care enough as they won’t better flagship devices like foldable’s that apple don’t offer as they are behind the times 👍🏻
If foldable were important to Apple they would have done it already but their customers don’t care as Samsung is behind the times.
Samsung doesn’t over clock their devices unlike apple so you will have more durability out of an s25 ultra compared with an iPhone 17 pro max
the Samsung will gather dust while the iPhone 17 will still be actively used.
 
To be clear 2011 was when Steve passed away. 2013 was 64 bit and it forever, like face if changed the landscape of smartphones. Foldable won’t move the needle imo.

iPhone has had a bigger influence than Samsung.

If foldable were important to Apple they would have done it already but their customers don’t care as Samsung is behind the times.

the Samsung will gather dust while the iPhone 17 will still be actively used.
Who’s Steve is this a friend if it is them I’m sorry for you’re loss 👍🏻
Irrelevant regarding influence it’s not 2007 anymore we are now in a new decade where foldable’s and trifold’s are here not 3.5 inch touchscreen devices times have changed and it’s thanks to Samsung for pushing that change and it’s very simple how much ram is in an iPhone SE 2nd Generation that runs
IOS 26 and that will solidify my point in being forced to change thanks to Samsung
 
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