black people and women should be in an uproar over this commercial. All of those things are possible on an iPhone, easily. So this is basically a smart white guy showing up the less intelligent black lady. Wow. Terrible terrible thing to see.
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Samsung "Street Challenge" Pits iPhone Against Galaxy Note
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Lordskelic
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Does a phone really need to do that? It's a stupid gimmick that people aren't even going to use after the 1st week they have the phone. It's not practical.
Sweetcheetah
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There are more iPad and iPhone attachments...
First off, there are A LOT of evidence that iPad and iPhone, be it 4 or 4S, is the most utilized and most fun device there is. Both Private and Public Schools are adapting to it, quite a few companies are utilizing iPads. Beta testing certain restaurants are adapting to waiting diners with iPads on each table for consumers to play around with... film makers are using iPhone 4S with adaptable attachments and like wise photographers. I have bookmarks of websites that sell nothing but iPhone 4/4S attachments like enhancing the digital camera world. Inspirations of short films on youtube that was filmed with iPhone 4S. Quite a few web sites out there just use the iPhone 4 and iPads (granted unbranded but clearly a distinct looking apple product) to show examples of pages or apps on the device. I hardly see any other device, nor this supposedly Samsung or HTC products.
I see MORE commercials on TV indirectly about Apple device products showcasing iPhone or iPad to show that they have adapted mobile content apps. Even a lot of movies, chick flicks, action, drama, etc use some form of Apple product computers for props. And little do I see any other mobile devices. Hell, sit-coms are using Apple products to make the show. What about that one episode of The Big Bang Theory when one of the character fell in love with SIRI when iPhone 4S came out. Yeah a spoof of SIRI... What does that tell us about Apple mobile devices? Apple is getting free advertisement EVERYWHERE. It's no wonder Apple doesn't need to make a lot of fuss about comparing anything else. Nor spend Millions on some 30 second Superbowl Ad. It was clearly shown that most foot ball players and other people brought out their iPhone of some sort to capture the trophy being brought out for more than 1.5 minutes and Apple didn't spend a dime. It was natural, true to the tone, and well, as real and nature as it can get.
Yes, they used to do that "Hi I'm a Mac... Hi I'm a PC" routine a while back, but they stopped that and what do most apple commercials do? Just show the experience.
And honestly, my high school best friend / business partner has an HTC android and swears by it. Sure he seems to have some few quarks with it, but he has VERY specific use that iPhone naturally doesn't have but he uses it and I'm glad for him that he does when it comes to programming etc. He's a programmer and very technical and I'm sure there are iPhone apps out there to do what he does. Where as I have an iPhone, but I don't do what he does because I'm not a programmer, I'm more of a visual digital multimedia design specialist. But he doesn't do a lot of filming nor photography as I do with my iPhone. I've got a lot of attachments I use when I go see a client to do a filmed interview. I use lenses, audio hook up etc to really enhance a lot of what I do. So I have very specific uses that are less technical inclined.
So, that man with the over sized phone is probably got a lot of practice and is quite technically inclined. That woman if indeed a real person probably doesn't do that a lot, but likes the ease and less complicated use for everyday phone. Hook me up against that guy, I will show him what I'm capable of and I'll get myself a stylus to make it an even match. Have all the apps ready for anything. Did you see that Guy scrolling what appears to be 100's of apps (not that much but still) he probably had soo many apps prepared for this commercial. It was certainly an unfair situation. It almost was a sexist situation. So the man is a lot smarter than a woman using mobile divides? Samsung why don't you go up against some one in your own same sex and has a guy with just as many apps and capabilities?
It's all about who needs to do what? I mean there are SOOO many different people using iPhone for different reasons. Not all will do what Samsung has pitted to compare. I never thought to crop my head, send a card. If anything I know of a web site I can go to on my iPhone that I can upload a photo from my iPhone that I may have used an app to make it more cool or fun and send a REAL physical card printed and mailed to someone. That's more meaningful isn't not?
I just see that there are many more apple mobile company fans out there than any other mobile for which they designed equipments and attachments. Go google it. Besides there are WAAAAY too many android phone types that it's hard for any company to build a suitable attachments because it's hard to tell who is more market share. Apple iPhone 4 and 4S and iPad, it's simple. So most company focus their design for them. Look how many types of phone cases there are dedicated to iPhone. It's simple. Market share is huge now for it. So I wouldn't worry about these samsung phones or tablets. They're just all over the place in sizes. There are more buyers for extra stuff for the iPhone/iPad than anything else out there and so where do you think most companies going to focus on products and make tons of money off of? Supply and demand baby.
First off, there are A LOT of evidence that iPad and iPhone, be it 4 or 4S, is the most utilized and most fun device there is. Both Private and Public Schools are adapting to it, quite a few companies are utilizing iPads. Beta testing certain restaurants are adapting to waiting diners with iPads on each table for consumers to play around with... film makers are using iPhone 4S with adaptable attachments and like wise photographers. I have bookmarks of websites that sell nothing but iPhone 4/4S attachments like enhancing the digital camera world. Inspirations of short films on youtube that was filmed with iPhone 4S. Quite a few web sites out there just use the iPhone 4 and iPads (granted unbranded but clearly a distinct looking apple product) to show examples of pages or apps on the device. I hardly see any other device, nor this supposedly Samsung or HTC products.
I see MORE commercials on TV indirectly about Apple device products showcasing iPhone or iPad to show that they have adapted mobile content apps. Even a lot of movies, chick flicks, action, drama, etc use some form of Apple product computers for props. And little do I see any other mobile devices. Hell, sit-coms are using Apple products to make the show. What about that one episode of The Big Bang Theory when one of the character fell in love with SIRI when iPhone 4S came out. Yeah a spoof of SIRI... What does that tell us about Apple mobile devices? Apple is getting free advertisement EVERYWHERE. It's no wonder Apple doesn't need to make a lot of fuss about comparing anything else. Nor spend Millions on some 30 second Superbowl Ad. It was clearly shown that most foot ball players and other people brought out their iPhone of some sort to capture the trophy being brought out for more than 1.5 minutes and Apple didn't spend a dime. It was natural, true to the tone, and well, as real and nature as it can get.
Yes, they used to do that "Hi I'm a Mac... Hi I'm a PC" routine a while back, but they stopped that and what do most apple commercials do? Just show the experience.
And honestly, my high school best friend / business partner has an HTC android and swears by it. Sure he seems to have some few quarks with it, but he has VERY specific use that iPhone naturally doesn't have but he uses it and I'm glad for him that he does when it comes to programming etc. He's a programmer and very technical and I'm sure there are iPhone apps out there to do what he does. Where as I have an iPhone, but I don't do what he does because I'm not a programmer, I'm more of a visual digital multimedia design specialist. But he doesn't do a lot of filming nor photography as I do with my iPhone. I've got a lot of attachments I use when I go see a client to do a filmed interview. I use lenses, audio hook up etc to really enhance a lot of what I do. So I have very specific uses that are less technical inclined.
So, that man with the over sized phone is probably got a lot of practice and is quite technically inclined. That woman if indeed a real person probably doesn't do that a lot, but likes the ease and less complicated use for everyday phone. Hook me up against that guy, I will show him what I'm capable of and I'll get myself a stylus to make it an even match. Have all the apps ready for anything. Did you see that Guy scrolling what appears to be 100's of apps (not that much but still) he probably had soo many apps prepared for this commercial. It was certainly an unfair situation. It almost was a sexist situation. So the man is a lot smarter than a woman using mobile divides? Samsung why don't you go up against some one in your own same sex and has a guy with just as many apps and capabilities?
It's all about who needs to do what? I mean there are SOOO many different people using iPhone for different reasons. Not all will do what Samsung has pitted to compare. I never thought to crop my head, send a card. If anything I know of a web site I can go to on my iPhone that I can upload a photo from my iPhone that I may have used an app to make it more cool or fun and send a REAL physical card printed and mailed to someone. That's more meaningful isn't not?
I just see that there are many more apple mobile company fans out there than any other mobile for which they designed equipments and attachments. Go google it. Besides there are WAAAAY too many android phone types that it's hard for any company to build a suitable attachments because it's hard to tell who is more market share. Apple iPhone 4 and 4S and iPad, it's simple. So most company focus their design for them. Look how many types of phone cases there are dedicated to iPhone. It's simple. Market share is huge now for it. So I wouldn't worry about these samsung phones or tablets. They're just all over the place in sizes. There are more buyers for extra stuff for the iPhone/iPad than anything else out there and so where do you think most companies going to focus on products and make tons of money off of? Supply and demand baby.
Wow, (and you still got an internet connection before you went to "No Service"), though, I see now actually you're on Wifi then, that makes more sense. Anything can cut your Wifi connection, and trust me, I don't think any other phone would hold on to a distant Wifi connection either.
If that wasn't the problem, the servers at YouTube for some reason still won't always keep a video stream going. I would think by now, Google would have fixed this! It's 2012, and I never get interruptions on any other video (Even with FaceTime)! Just YouTube.
I agree, and well Android Users won't even back this commercial up, they're embarrassed!
Check out this link: (for those who didn't see it yet)
Cult of Android
I don't ever want to be a power user of my phone. I want it to do things it does easily and simply. I am not however, computer illiterate, nor even phone illiterate. I just don't care to have another device that complicates my life.
All the other things that you talk about are not as important as you think. Take your battery issue, for instance. First, I can't remember the last time my iPhone didn't last the whole day. Even when I was in the UK sightseeing all day and taking pictures and video with it, I still came back to the hotel with 20% battery or more remaining. Most days my battery doesn't need a recharge. I'd say on average I can go two to three days if I really want to get close to the edge of its life. But let's say the battery IS terrible and I can't go more than a day.... even in that case, how often are most people who are "power users" away from some sort of electrical energy that they can tap into? In your car, you probably have something that can charge a phone. In an office, surely you do. Most places of business have electricity. Most public places have electricity somewhere. I guess a wildlife photographer in darkest Africa might need for more juice (assuming they didn't get to their shoot in a car). I can honestly say I've NEVER thought "damn, I wish I had another battery for my phone".
Second, by 'bloatware', I assume you mean iTunes. A) You don't need it to use your phone. B) It's actually pretty nice if you spend the time to figure it out. I know some of you "power users" think that dragging files from one folder to another is high tech... but I think it's much cooler that I can create a custom filtered playlist and have that synch to my phone whenever I plug it in without me having to fiddle with individual files. Or I can choose which ones I want to transfer. It's a lot like dragging a file. Except I don't have to even have my phone in the general vicinity to manage it. I can just mark the ones I want and it'll move them the next time I want it to. And then there's iCloud... so you know. I'm not actually TIED to anything. Some might even call that smart.
USB drive mode? Seriously? This is the year 2012. You're aware of the concept of the internet, right? Why on Earth would you want to turn your phone into a USB drive? Even USB drives suck at being USB drives. For a "power user", you're not very savvy about this whole technology thing. Technology is supposed to make life easier, not more tedious.
I think based on the items that you have outlined, what you mean when you say "power user" is really "control freak". You can't accept a phone that is able to do things without your specific input. It's okay to let some of that go you know and just enjoy that you can tell your iPhone to do something and it will, even when you're not looking at it. But hey, at least you can play a Flash game. That's power usage.
kdarling
Contributor
Exactly. Nothing against the lady. Heck, my wife's the same way.
I'd like to see a comparison between two sets of savvy folk instead.
Has SNL or the Big Bang Theory done a take-off on the ad yet?
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dweisen1
macrumors newbie
Mattel vs. Iphone
If android were 1st rate they would not have a need to piggy back on true innovation. Google is too busy being everything to everyone, something that can't be done, they need to find they're niche and stick with it. I have a droid through my employer and a Iphone for my personal, and the droid was deprecated the day it hit the market.
If android were 1st rate they would not have a need to piggy back on true innovation. Google is too busy being everything to everyone, something that can't be done, they need to find they're niche and stick with it. I have a droid through my employer and a Iphone for my personal, and the droid was deprecated the day it hit the market.
These Samsung guys again...
Why does Samsung thinks this could promote their phone? A paid woman who says "What... My phone can't do that!" isn't really authentic. These guys from Samsung don't have ideas for their phones or their promotion - so the have to do crap like this! 😡
Why does Samsung thinks this could promote their phone? A paid woman who says "What... My phone can't do that!" isn't really authentic. These guys from Samsung don't have ideas for their phones or their promotion - so the have to do crap like this! 😡
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Lordskelic
macrumors regular
Removable battery:
It is not about how long the battery lasts, it is about not requiring to plug your phone in to charge it up. You can charge up the spare battery in a seperate charger, and simply swap an go. You go back to the hotel, you swap batteries and GO! no waiting around for a bit to give it a bit more charge. I go camping every year and I often see iphone users every evening standing around the only power points in the camp kitchen, not eating or cooking, but charging up their phones. I plug my battery charger in at night after all the iphone users are done charging and then wake up and swap battery over or just take the spare with me and swap over whenever the current battery runs low. I can do exactly what iphone users do, but the removable battery gives me additional options.
itunes:
er, sorry but I have struggled with ipods for years and detested itunes and everything it represents. Itunes will occasionally screw up your music files and playlists. Don't tell me this doesn't happen, I've been there many times. Apple lost me with itunes.
I use media files on the phone, not on the computer. I want to manage the files on the phone, not on my computer. All I want to do is transfer/backup media files, I do not want to spend time on my computer managing it. Requiring itunes for file transfer is just retarded. iCloud is not a feasible option when you have to sometimes transfer many large files. Don't defend itunes.
USB drive mode:
This is 2012, how does your device not have USB mode? Have you not heard of USB drive mode?
I can transfer files to/from my PVR to my phone using the USB cable.
I can transfer files to/from my PS3 to my phone using the USB cable.
I can transfer files to/from a corporate PC (which has restricted access to internet) to my phone using USB cable.
I was in a hotel and the room had a TV that had record to USB capability. I plugged the phone in with a USB cable and recorded a show on a spare micro SD card which I was able to hotswap into the phone.
Open standard plug and play in 2012. It just works.
I don't consider myself a power user. I am just a practical user.
chagla
macrumors 6502a
phone/file management - without proprietary software. this is the single most important reason for choosing Android. i can manage my files of every extension, on any computer, with or without wires. i can use my phone storage for all kinds of files, not just music, video and pictures.
removable battery is useful if your battery goes bad, or if you want to install one of those extended batteries.
widgets on android are highly useful. to give you an example, you can have one touch control of many things on your phone. you can do things like - turn on/off wifi, BT, call someone, lock screen and many more things. all with a single touch without opening an app. you can have an overview of all calls/messages/weather on your screen. just by looking at the screen you have all these info available to you without opening app for every single thing.
hope this helps. i'm no IOS hater. it just doesn't suit my needs. another big reason for choosing Android was that i can customize nearly every aspect of the phone. basically I am in charge of my phone.
iSee
macrumors 68040
This is a weak ad. It's not persuasive because they had to make the iPhone owner a total idiot to make the premise work.
I can see the car ad equivalent in my head how:
[woman in BMW 3 series sedan, guy in a PT Cruiser]
Announcer: Here's the challenge: pull out of your parking spot!
Guy: [puts car in reverse and backs up]
Woman: What?!? How can he do that and I can't?!? No!
I can see the car ad equivalent in my head how:
[woman in BMW 3 series sedan, guy in a PT Cruiser]
Announcer: Here's the challenge: pull out of your parking spot!
Guy: [puts car in reverse and backs up]
Woman: What?!? How can he do that and I can't?!? No!
Apple RARELY releases anything Beta to the Public. But since they did with Siri, it's likely because it's the only way to really test it and get out the bugs. This large scale testing (Millions) is one sure way to perfect it.
I have noticed that the Siri server will go down every now and then, but for a Beta Product, It's a lot better than many things that aren't Beta when released. And it took a year before it got a little better (MS Vista).
Actually, a lot of people wouldn't even know it was beta because it does usually work so astonishly well! Even critics had to admit their surprise for it to understand was they said correctly even when some humans would ask "What?". Now, Siri just needs to learn to interpret what is said and do 100 times more things with the request. Even though there has been 40 years of development into this (DARPA, etc.), Siri is like a toddler, still learning, (actual AI in there too!).
If Apple's objective was to test Siri, why not let ALL customers use it instead of limiting it to the 4S?
Siri was running fine on iphone 4 before the 4S was released. And hacked Siri will even run on an iPod Touch so CPU speed is not an issue.
Obviously, Siri was disabled on iphone 4 and used as a selling point for the 4S.
Thanks Apple, we know where your priorities lie.
kdarling
Contributor
Voice recognition is pretty darned good these days on many platforms. No doubt a result, as you said, of collecting information from millions of users.
Sidenote: when I went to check my Google account dashboard to see what info they held on me (everyone should do so), I was interested to see that it contained a lot of voice samples from previous searches to help it better understand me. I could delete those and tell it not to save any more, but that would make it less useful to me:
In this case, the DARPA PAL (Personalized Assistant that Learns) project only dates from 2003. They gave it to Stanford Research Institute. Siri was spun off into a for-profit company in 2007.
donniedarko
macrumors regular
Looks like an interesting phone:tablet.
As for the comparo... how can they pick some women who sounds like a retard, talks like one, to go against a 'guy' off the street who has an newly or unreleased pice of hardware, knows how to use it like that, and then makes her look extra dumb?
Ads trying to diminish the Apple stuff is stupid. If they focus on what they are doing, and do it well it will attract plenty of interest.
As for the comparo... how can they pick some women who sounds like a retard, talks like one, to go against a 'guy' off the street who has an newly or unreleased pice of hardware, knows how to use it like that, and then makes her look extra dumb?
Ads trying to diminish the Apple stuff is stupid. If they focus on what they are doing, and do it well it will attract plenty of interest.
Yogomi
macrumors member
I think as far as phone users, you and I completely different. The points you make here really have nothing to do with why I use an iPhone. But that's why we have many phones. Everyone is different. Everyone has different needs.
One thing I've always loved about Apple is they make it easy for me to work on my computer without having to "work on" my computer. Since my first Mac back 1991. Same with the iPhone. They provided me with some basic apps and left it up to me. There are over 500,000 apps in the app store. I don't see how I wouldn't be in charge of my phone if I can put any of those apps on it for my own personal use.
There are just some things I just DO NOT care about.
One of them is proprietary software. I'm one of the few "power users" who actually welcomes it. I know that might make me seem like the lowest common denominator, but I can assure you, at nearly 20 years in my career, I'm hardly in that demo.
Also, I don't care about iTunes. I use it to play/organize/purchase my music, movies, apps, and TV shows. I don't feel "enslaved" by it as others seem to be describing it. It's a freakin' application on your computer. To me it's the digital version of my CD and DVD/BluRay stands. People are making way too much about nothing when it comes to iTunes. It's quite silly.
Removable battery? I have NEVER had an iPhone run out of battery and die on me. And I don't mean to be rude, but I am calling BS on the poster earlier who said all his iPhone using friends are always asking to use his phone because their batteries are always dead.(Zombies?) That's a ridiculous fabrication and that person knows it.
Just the facts, please?
I can leave my iPhone off the charger for 24 hours, Bluetooth on, screen brightness at the highest setting, and still have 50% of my battery left while my girlfriend has had to charge her Samsung at least three times. I know that might seem like an exaggeration, but I like to have discussions and debates that deal solely in truth and experience. Not hateful and baseless opinions. It did take some getting used to, but I have never once wished I had a removable battery.
As for USB, why? For saving files? I use a cloud service so I stopped carrying around any kind of USB or portable drive ages ago. I can't even find my 16GB Flash drive because I just quit using it. I can access all my files on my iPhone, iPad, all three Macs at home, and both of my Macs at work. I can also access it on my Samsung phone, the new Note 10.1 and my Tab 7.0 and 10.1. Best thing about it? No matter what happens to any of your devices, the files are always available...somewhere.
As you can see, I have several Samsung devices so this is from actual experience. I don't hate Samsung devices. I think they're pretty great, except the fact that some of them feel cheaply made, in my opinion. I still would like to hold on to a Note, but not one of their devices has made me feel inadequate about having an iPhone.
As mentioned before, this "commercial" was really not a fair comparison. If they were to come up to me on the street and ask me what I can do with my iPhone compared to the Note(since I had it for three weeks, remember), I can promise you I'd send them home with their tail between their legs. There are so many settings missing. What about how it's used in a home? Or in a workplace setting? In your car? (Don't text and drive.) At a concert or during your own live performance?
At the end the day, and as this video shows, it's really not the device, it's the person using it and how they use it. Some of the worst things about this thread(and most of the others) is the sense of superiority because you use a certain brand or hate a certain brand.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: the iPhone changed the game. Every phone that people say is better than the iPhone, whether it is or not, would not even exist if Apple hadn't done it first. The form factor, the functionality, the whole concept; basically carbon copied with extras tacked on to pull head. All competing phones are based on what Apple did with the iPhone, even if someone else IS doing it better now.
-Y
donniedarko
macrumors regular
You must have a special battery in your iPhone because Ive had 3 and never an experience like that at battery wise
Yogomi
macrumors member
Well, then I guess Apple likes me more than everyone else because they gave me a special battery.
-Y.
Instead of pitting themselves against Apple, which they are not doing very successfully, Samsung should focus on delivering products and not spend so much time on the marketing of it.
People are going to want to see if the iPhone really can't do what the ad says, and hey presto, they buy an iPhone.
You lose, Samsung.
People are going to want to see if the iPhone really can't do what the ad says, and hey presto, they buy an iPhone.
You lose, Samsung.
Really?
I just did that the other day on my phone and it only took me 2 minutes an app i downloaded. The name of the app is Juxtaposer. I got it when it was free ad now its 2.99. This commercial has FAIL! all over it.
I just did that the other day on my phone and it only took me 2 minutes an app i downloaded. The name of the app is Juxtaposer. I got it when it was free ad now its 2.99. This commercial has FAIL! all over it.