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In its latest ad, Samsung pits a user with the Samsung Galaxy Note -- the company's new 5.3" Android smartphone -- against an iPhone user, seeing which phone is better for a few tasks of questionable use.

via Cult of Android

Article Link: Samsung "Street Challenge" Pits iPhone Against Galaxy Note

Did anyone actually click on that Cult of Android link? I was amused when the headline was "Not Even Android Fans Will Defend Samsung’s Latest Galaxy Note Spot"

Well at least Android Fans are embarrassed and admit that you can do everything in the Video with an iPhone too.
 
Fail!

I believe it was Steve Jobs who said that if you need to use a stylus, you have failed.
 
This is a bad display of marketing. One "random" person against "another random person" with different backgrounds, different skill sets, and different phones. You can't tell how primed they were, and you also can't tell what apps either of them are familiar with.

This ad felt like the equivalent of two men reading different books while one of them is illiterate and rated their book poorly.
 
Well apple will be a follower if they release a phone with a larger screen. Other companies came out with bigger screens first, so in this area apple will be following suit..

Let's review.

You say that Apple will have to come out with a model with the same size screen as a bunch of other phones.

I say Apple isn't much of a follower.

You say that Apple will be a follower if they come out with a model with the same size screen as a bunch of other phones.

So...

I say that Apple isn't much of a follower.

Your turn?
 
I believe it was Steve Jobs who said that if you need to use a stylus, you have failed.

(Repeated for the millionth time in these threads) You don't need to use the pen.

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As far as quotes, Steve Jobs also said:

Apple has no plans to make tablets. There's not enough of a market. - 2002

"It turns out people want keyboards. We look at the (idea of a slate) tablet, and we think it is going to fail (because it only has a touchscreen)." - 2003

"What good are tablets except to surf the web in the bathroom." - 2003

Believing everything that Jobs ever said in the past, is like believing a used car salesman. He only likes the features of the models that he has in his own current inventory.

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One needs only look at the excitement that arose when Microsoft showed the Courier concept, or all the stylii available for the iPad, to know that there's a large segment of users who have a need for the additional ability to have accurate and fast pen input.
 
Samsung will be dead to me when/if Apple decide to ditch their crappy LCD screens for OLED.
 
Wow I can't think of anyone that would even want a 5.3" mini tablet in their pocket. Im not even sure that fits into a pocket. Just shows that the iPhone is superior, it gets updated once a year or so and still blows samsung away even though they release a phone every few weeks to compete with the iPhone.
 
How many people whip out there phone on the street and start trying to make a birthday card... It would have been funny if she used Siri and Won...
 
The Swiss Army Knife of portable devices

Wow I can't think of anyone that would even want a 5.3" mini tablet in their pocket.Im not even sure that fits into a pocket. Just shows that the iPhone is superior, it gets updated once a year or so and still blows samsung away even though they release a phone every few weeks to compete with the iPhone.

How about someone who reads ebooks. They can have one device that serves as their phone and ebook reader that they can have with them all the time.
A 3.5" phone just isn't practical for reading ebooks.
Ebook readers want the largest screen they can fit in a pocket. And this does fit in a pocket easier than you think.
It weighs 180grams which also makes reading ebooks very comfortable compared to say holding an ipad weighing 600g. Anyone who reads ebooks a lot will tell you the ipad gets uncomfortable to hold for long periods. This is why dedicated ebook readers and mini-tablets sell.
With the stylus, I can see people who draw ideas loving this. Quick and accurate drawings like you would do on a paper notepad can now be done on the Note because it is always with you in the pocket. No need to make a photocopy of sketches on paper for other people, just email it or bluetooth a copy to them.
Portable applications requiring the capture of signatures is also well served by the Note. Couriers, Salespeople, Restuarants. Trying to get a signature on a capacitive tablet screen is ridiculous. It doesn't work. The stylus is needed.
It is the Swiss Army Knife of portable devices. It is the ultimate pocketable all-in-one.
 
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How about someone who reads ebooks. They can have one device that serves as their phone and ebook reader that they can have with them all the time.
A 3.5" phone just isn't practical for reading ebooks.
Ebook readers want the largest screen they can fit in a pocket. And this does fit in a pocket easier than you think.
It weighs 180grams which also makes reading ebooks very comfortable compared to say holding an ipad weighing 600g. Anyone who reads ebooks a lot will tell you the ipad gets uncomfortable to hold for long periods. This is why dedicated ebook readers and mini-tablets sell.
With the stylus, I can see people who draw ideas loving this. Quick and accurate drawings like you would do on a paper notepad can now be done on the Note because it is always with you in the pocket. No need to make a photocopy of sketches on paper for other people, just email it or bluetooth a copy to them.
Portable applications requiring the capture of signatures is also well served by the Note. Couriers, Salespeople, Restuarants. Trying to get a signature on a capacitive tablet screen is ridiculous. It doesn't work. The stylus is needed.
It is the Swiss Army Knife of portable devices. It is the ultimate pocketable all-in-one.

As someone who owns an iPhone but not an iPad, I can attest to the difficulty trying to read an e-book on the thing. However, that is not what it is designed for. The "Steve Jobs" idea of computing is to have an:
iPhone <> iPad <> Mac
Or in generic terms:
SmartPhone <> Tablet <> Computer

Given that there are already many reasons one will still need a "real" computer, or at least a tablet on top of a Phone, in your example it comes down to where you want to read your ebook: on your phone or on your tablet or laptop.

I specifically know my answer: Recently I bought a PDF of a long book - Obviously from a visual-standpoint it was easier to read it on the netbook than on an iPhone. But keep this in mind: after decades of fine-tuning in the book industry, the accepted smallest size of a paperback is still larger than any smartphone, including the Galaxy. Furthermore, I found that in situations where I could not carry the netbook, I did not have much time to read anyway, and the iPhone was quite adequate for short reads. (It was a great book that I read everywhere. ;) )

In regards to a stylus: I know that Steve Jobs was very against it his entire life. While there are specialized fields such as animation or certain video-games (think Nintendo DS) that can make use of a stylus, I do not see the need for it for most people. While the work done in animation-studios using applications like Maya with a stylus is mind-blowing, that is a small niche market. Stylus/Tablet PC's have been around for years - with stagnant sales. (Most of the time I only see co-workers using them to show-off, but not for any practical purpose.) As far as writing with a stylus: Whenever I checkout and sign my name on a stylus-based signature screen in a store, my handwriting is beyond terrible. In addition, even if they perfected a Newton-like handwriting recognition tool, many studies have been done proving that typing was shown to be far faster than handwriting. (In one particular test I have in mind, they had a case-study of many volunteers of all ages and abilities write a paragraph in several different ways. The fastest mode of input was the business version of Dragon. Old-fashioned pencil-and-paper came in dead-last...while this is not a plug for Dragon, I think with Sirri we can see where Apple is going with these technologies....)

...Oh, and just yesterday I "signed" my eFiled tax return without a stylus... ;)

I see the future fast approaching where we hone in on the most efficient ways of communicating with our devices, from ubiquitous Star Trek TNG-like touch-screens to HAL-9000-like voice communication.

I suppose there will never be a "one size fits all" answer to all of this, a fact that demonstrates the beauty of a free-market. And there probably will be a niche market for something between a phone and a tablet. However, I believe in the model in which most people will have one pocket-sized iPhone-like device (or how about a Leela/Futurama wristband? ;) ,) one iPad-like tablet device, and some type of powerful full computer. (I will not go into my opinions on that end...I have already rambled long enough. :eek:)

Edit: I just thought of something...please do not think I am sexist, but if I carried a purse on me, I think I would be interested in something larger than an iPhone but smaller than an iPad. However, since I carry a backpack (if I have anything at all on me,) the iPad is the perfect "middle" device for me. I still agree with the overall pattern for personal computing devices for the near-future, but I suppose this exemplifies why "one-size-fits-all" does not always apply...
 
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Since it's so easy to take a screen shot. I just take a shot and send it as MMS, that helped me out when i need to send a direction.:rolleyes:

Agreed....

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I like your screenshot, and it is actually that good of resolution 960x640. (I measured it with "Free Ruler v1.7" with pixel graduations/markings)

The top bar isn't standard, was that actually on your iPhone, or did you modify the screen shot? If that was actually on your iPhone, I'd like to do something similar... (I know what JB is)
 
Fits fine in my pocket.

Where I work we get a lot of AT&T dummy and demo units and the day we got the Samsung Galaxy Note we all had a ripe old laugh.

I'll temper my comment by saying that the form factor isn't completely off-base. Spatially it feels like the surface area of a paperback book - a size most of us can relate to. But it the size quickly becomes apparent when holding it up to your head to make a phone call or trying to stow it away.

Most of us could not fit the device comfortably in our pockets. My fairly pedestrian Levi's 501 jeans would have nothing to do with it (the pocket was not wide enough to accommodate the girth of the Note).

IMHO, the Note will go down along with the Nokia N-Gage as something that was not fully thought out and that looks silly when being used for its primary purpose.

I doubt Samsung will get so much egg on their face since they refresh their products so quickly and aren't promoting the Note with nearly the same Nokia N-Gage gusto. What will be most telling is if they drop this form factor in six months after the next refresh.
 
What I have taken form this thread.

- The women is an idiot and its clearly staged

and

- People are still going on about the Mac vs PC ad which isn't the same as this at all.

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Samsung will be dead to me when/if Apple decide to ditch their crappy LCD screens for OLED.

You think Samsungs over saturated screens are better that Apples Retina Display?

Serious question.
 
I can honestly say that's what I thought at first. But after handling it for a few weeks, I got used to the size quickly.

Remember, it's a hybrid phone/tablet device. So it does need to be a little large. Once you start using the s-pen it makes more sense; well, to me it made more sense.

I wouldn't mind having one to keep. (Working on that)

-Y.

I saw another commercial focusing on its features (far better then the versus iPhone ad), and I am impressed!

Samsung does make great products. Them and LG.
Strong competitors.
 
(Repeated for the millionth time in these threads) You don't need to use the pen.

--

As far as quotes, Steve Jobs also said:

Apple has no plans to make tablets. There's not enough of a market. - 2002

"It turns out people want keyboards. We look at the (idea of a slate) tablet, and we think it is going to fail (because it only has a touchscreen)." - 2003

"What good are tablets except to surf the web in the bathroom." - 2003

Believing everything that Jobs ever said in the past, is like believing a used car salesman. He only likes the features of the models that he has in his own current inventory.

--

One needs only look at the excitement that arose when Microsoft showed the Courier concept, or all the stylii available for the iPad, to know that there's a large segment of users who have a need for the additional ability to have accurate and fast pen input.

Quotes from 2002/3?? You know that was 10 years ago. In technology terms that's like 30 years ago.
 
You think Samsungs over saturated screens are better that Apples Retina Display?

Serious question.

While the Retina Display is quite good it is again limited by surface area. Have you tried using a Samsung Galaxy Nexus or Note? They too are quite good and because of the surface area, I would prefer them over the iPhone4/4s or iPod Touch.
 
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